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LMAO
few cringe college students say dumb shit and suddenly were throwing them back in the camps
few cringe college students say dumb shit and suddenly were throwing them back in the camps
LMAO
few cringe college students say dumb shit and suddenly were throwing them back in the camps
few cringe college students say dumb shit and suddenly were throwing them back in the camps
It’s an anti war protest. Sure some protesters might be antisemitic, but they aren’t protesting Jewish people, they are protesting a war and calling for universities to divest from Israel.
Which is fair tbh. Because even Israelis are blaming Netanyahu for prioritizing the war over saving hostages.
Let’s be real, a lot of shit said in the protest is anti semitic af. I don’t blame Jews for seeing those protest and thinking it’s anti semitic af. Doesn’t also help that most Jews do hold some affinity to Israel, even if they themselves aren’t in line with the government. When you start using Zionist as a slur you’re alienating 90% of Jews who just view being a Zionist as someone who wants Israel to be a state.
but all that being said it’s just a bunch of stupid and young college kids with 0 power since they don’t vote anyways
but all that being said it’s just a bunch of stupid and young college kids with 0 power since they don’t vote anyways
I don’t think that’s what Zionism is
A lot of pro Palestine people would accept a two state solution. Yasser Arafat eventually supported it.
Zionism is more than that. It’s being a Jewish nationalist and supporting Israel uncritically.
I think that’s a very limited perspective that fails to grasp what the protests are really about.
A lot of pro Palestine people would accept a two state solution. Yasser Arafat eventually supported it.
Zionism is more than that. It’s being a Jewish nationalist and supporting Israel uncritically.
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I think that’s a very limited perspective that fails to grasp what the protests are really about.
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/quick-takes/2024/04/29/columbia-bars-protest-leader-who-threatened-zionists#:~:text=“Be%20grateful%20that%20I'm,fight%20Zionists%20to%20the%20death.
Yeah but that’s not the understood meaning of Zionism. When Joe Biden says he’s a Zionist you think he meant he’s an Israeli nationalist? No. Zionist just means a person who believes Israel should be a state. Most Jews fall in that
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Like it or not perception matters. If you were to protest trans rights and allowed pedophiles to protest alongside you what exactly you think it’s going to happen lmao
Btw, there is nothing wrong with the first two images and the last. The first to the left is just explaining that the resistance will target Israel and those who support the oppression and the genocide, which they are legitimate to do in a situation of occupation and oppression (and don't make me start of the problematic assignation of "terrorist organization" on a group of resistance), the other (to the right) is a Slogan of anti oppression. The last image is literally referencing the genocide perpetuated by Nazi fascists to explain that Israel is doing the exact same thing. Which is - again - something legitimate to do in the current situation where there is an ACTUAL GENOCIDE perpetuated by crypto-fascist if not worst.
So I only see the one guy with the anti jew BS who is really problematic here and maybe the one in the article.
But again, you can't blame an entire protest for the act of 1 lunatic. That's literally dumb.
Do you know what the “final solution” is? Lmao
anyways did I “blame the entire protest for an act of 1 lunatic”? I specifically said I don’t blame Jews for looking at the lunatics(not just 1) and thinking a lot of the protest is anti semitic. The perception can be skewed because we tend to remember the negative
I even mocked the idea that the U.S is housing the next Holocaust lol
anyways did I “blame the entire protest for an act of 1 lunatic”? I specifically said I don’t blame Jews for looking at the lunatics(not just 1) and thinking a lot of the protest is anti semitic. The perception can be skewed because we tend to remember the negative
I even mocked the idea that the U.S is housing the next Holocaust lol
Yeah, I know. That's precisely why we need to use terms like that to create a wake up call. Because yeah bro, what is happening is horrific, and its INTENDED to be.
I was not speaking specifically about you per say it was a general "you". Sorry.
I'm mentionning that using the antisemitic card right now is REALLY not the time. Let me remind you that currently, multiple members of the opposition party in France, including the president of the biggest leftist party (this news just dropped yesterday) are being pressured by police complaints for antisemitism and terrorism apologism. So right now, the antisemitic card is being used as a tool ALL OVER THE WORLD to suppress any condamnation of the current genocide done by Israel. This is really not the best card and no, I do not want to "understand" jews or zionist that use this card to suppress the condamnation of a massacre. Those people are complicit in the invisibilization of an atrocity.
I was not speaking specifically about you per say it was a general "you". Sorry.
I'm mentionning that using the antisemitic card right now is REALLY not the time. Let me remind you that currently, multiple members of the opposition party in France, including the president of the biggest leftist party (this news just dropped yesterday) are being pressured by police complaints for antisemitism and terrorism apologism. So right now, the antisemitic card is being used as a tool ALL OVER THE WORLD to suppress any condamnation of the current genocide done by Israel. This is really not the best card and no, I do not want to "understand" jews or zionist that use this card to suppress the condamnation of a massacre. Those people are complicit in the invisibilization of an atrocity.
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its fine to call out antisemitism where it actually exists
but when you cherry pick a few antisemites and use their actions to characterize the entire movement, you’re tbh just weaponizing your Jewishness to support a war. A war that has probably taken the lives of much of the October 7th hostages that could have otherwise been saved if israel had pushed for ceasefire sooner.
An anti-war and anti-israel protests are not anti-jew protests.
The goals of the latter is specifically a criticism of Israeli actions and America’s complicity in them. While far from the majority, there are many Jews who are taking part in the protests.
An actual anti-Jew protests is something like Charlottesville. The antisemites there weren’t just a few agitators, nazis had collectively organized to show up there for the explicit purpose of making their hatred known.
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it’s not the same thing
but when you cherry pick a few antisemites and use their actions to characterize the entire movement, you’re tbh just weaponizing your Jewishness to support a war. A war that has probably taken the lives of much of the October 7th hostages that could have otherwise been saved if israel had pushed for ceasefire sooner.
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An anti-war and anti-israel protests are not anti-jew protests.
The goals of the latter is specifically a criticism of Israeli actions and America’s complicity in them. While far from the majority, there are many Jews who are taking part in the protests.
An actual anti-Jew protests is something like Charlottesville. The antisemites there weren’t just a few agitators, nazis had collectively organized to show up there for the explicit purpose of making their hatred known.
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it’s not the same thing
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they have no common sense