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But these conversations are happening and instead of shutting them down they should be addressed to identify the reasons for their existence.
And it's a generally problematic attitude to act as if heritage didn't matter. Uniformity won't cure racism but it produces rootless urbanites that don't know where they belong. Only corporations and politicians benefit from such a society.
Yes. By heritage I'm only half Germany.
But these conversations are happening and instead of shutting them down they should be addressed to identify the reasons for their existence.
And it's a generally problematic attitude to act as if heritage didn't matter. Uniformity won't cure racism but it produces rootless urbanites that don't know where they belong. Only corporations and politicians benefit from such a society.
Yes. By heritage I'm only half Germany.
While this is true people didn't necessarily see other as equal, the concept of categorizing human by race and therefore oppressing them is a very new thing. (around 4 centuries ago)
People were aware of difference of skin color, but they didn't act because of them.
Before that, the reason to categorize people were diverse (socials status, different ethnogroups, level of education, status in society etc.). The categorization were the result of the context (such as the fact that some people were considered barbarian because coming from a native tribe for example in the colonization), but that had nothing to do with the skin.
The concept of racism was developped very recently with scientific racism. Where people started to research and categorize others based on their color of skin or ethnicities in a documented and pseudo-scientific way.
Systemic racism is not natural, its a social construct. Completely isolated people coming in our society today would have absolutely no reasons to be racists. (But they would get racist bias with time by social contact)
Sadly, systemic racism has infected each strats of our society today, so to get rid of it is a hassle and must be done directly on the system itself.
Indeed. That's what I'm doing. I'm not shutting down the conversation (I can't do that) I'm telling people the problem in having the conversation in the first place. Some conversations cannot elevate the debate.
People were aware of difference of skin color, but they didn't act because of them.
Before that, the reason to categorize people were diverse (socials status, different ethnogroups, level of education, status in society etc.). The categorization were the result of the context (such as the fact that some people were considered barbarian because coming from a native tribe for example in the colonization), but that had nothing to do with the skin.
The concept of racism was developped very recently with scientific racism. Where people started to research and categorize others based on their color of skin or ethnicities in a documented and pseudo-scientific way.
Systemic racism is not natural, its a social construct. Completely isolated people coming in our society today would have absolutely no reasons to be racists. (But they would get racist bias with time by social contact)
Sadly, systemic racism has infected each strats of our society today, so to get rid of it is a hassle and must be done directly on the system itself.
Indeed. That's what I'm doing. I'm not shutting down the conversation (I can't do that) I'm telling people the problem in having the conversation in the first place. Some conversations cannot elevate the debate.
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"Phrenology aka racism was invented in 19th century Europe" is such a notorious classy argument. I mean obviously thousands of years of slavery was considered to be tolerance I guess.
You're 1/12 Brazilian then.
How much blood from elsewhere do you need for racists to consider you a minority ?
You don't need to be born somewhere to feel at your place in this specific country.
You're 1/12 Brazilian then.
How much blood from elsewhere do you need for racists to consider you a minority ?
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You don't need to be born somewhere to feel at your place in this specific country.
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Slavery and racism are two different things. People under slavery were not in that situation due to racism but for various other reasons (it could be as diverse as an economic status or a defeated tribe or even a trophee of war etc.)
Racism (scientific racism) is something that was actually created through pseudo-scientifism and spread like crazy to a point were it parasited every strats of society.
This has nothing to do with social classes as we know them today.
Racism (scientific racism) is something that was actually created through pseudo-scientifism and spread like crazy to a point were it parasited every strats of society.
This has nothing to do with social classes as we know them today.
Culture is also a big part of the problem today, it's not just race. White people and black people don't have the same culture. Similarly, if I go to another part of the town I will start seeing people with pijamas and towels on their head, walking around in sandals and they barely speak the language.
Because of the colonization. The slavery in the united state was an economical process first, they needed working hands for the plantations. Scientific racism was used to justify the status co about slavery but it was not it's cause.
Racism as we know it didn't existed before 4 centuries ago. There was different manner of expressing intolerance (ethnocentrism / deshumanization of other cultures as barbarians etc.) but not a hierarchization of ""races"" on the color of the skin.
Scientific racism was a bit like a pandora box that we should have never be opened.. once spreaded... it's extremily hard to prevent.
Racism as we know it didn't existed before 4 centuries ago. There was different manner of expressing intolerance (ethnocentrism / deshumanization of other cultures as barbarians etc.) but not a hierarchization of ""races"" on the color of the skin.
Scientific racism was a bit like a pandora box that we should have never be opened.. once spreaded... it's extremily hard to prevent.