Controversial General Political Discussion

[Peroroncino]

Yup I've spoke about it in my thread:



No one is choosing the game you can play for you. Relax mate.



Yup, I spoke about it in my thread, I even linked this video talking about it, dsaldy it won't appear on the post, too man



I linked this video, but the video doesn't appear, too many link I think.

The alt right stance is too say "trans gender or homosexuals or X" are FORCING you to do this. When in reality the only thing most trans people are saying is "X is problematic, please stop promoting it".

No LGBTQ+ people is forcing anything on anyone. This fallacious rethoric comes from a moral panic from the alt right that are scared that because those community exist, they will overthrow the world and them with it.




Indeed, politics are all about values you hold dear.



Indeed, the main dish are the actual value themselves.



I've linked a LOT of content explaining the problem with Rowling here if you want :)

then stfu about hogwarts legacy:laughmoji:

 

[Uncle Van]

The alt right stance is too say "trans gender or homosexuals or X" are FORCING you to do this. When in reality the only thing most trans people are saying is "X is problematic, please stop promoting it".

No LGBTQ+ people is forcing anything on anyone. This fallacious rethoric comes from a moral panic from the alt right that are scared that because those community exist, they will overthrow the world and them with it.

I dont think you follow. Once again, the trans community consists different kinds of people with their own standards, values and goals. Some do indeed want to force it, even saying that it's transphobic if you refuse to sleep with them. They can be a very, VERY minor part of the community but the media can put these people at the forefront to push the narrative that all trans people wanna force it. Why else do you think even socialism has turned into a anti-american boogeyman? Same methods.

LMAO I have an amazing example of that that recently happened here.

A student from a Medicine major in Sao Paulo diverted almost 1 million bucks from the "graduation party fund" of her class to invest in stuff she learned online with these kinds of "econo-coaches". She lost everything. And I mean EVERY LAST CENT.
Now she's facing a 10+ years charges.

Sounds like she fell for the classic ponzi scheme. Even Logan Paul did one recently and took millions lmao

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I dont think you follow. Once again, the trans community consists different kinds of people with their own standards, values and goals. Some do indeed want to force it, even saying that it's transphobic if you refuse to sleep with them. They can be a very, VERY minor part of the community but the media can put these people at the forefront to push the narrative that all trans people wanna force it. Why else do you think even socialism has turned into a anti-american boogeyman? Same methods.

See, the handful of openly trans or gay people I met irl were mostly obnoxious, entitled weirdos who were racist af

But that's just my very limited experience

 

[Logiko]

But how many games, movies and what not were made by homophobic, cis hating and god know what else you can find?

Where was outrage for those stuff? Why do we need to put trans community on a pedestal above all else?

Actually we are mate.. It's just that Rowling is VERY vocal and therefore very dangerous for transpeople.

None is putting them on a pedestal, that's a really weird stance..

This game was made by the fans for the fans. Just bcs people will play it doesnt mean they auto hate trans people like gtfo

And no one is saying that either. But the fact that buying the game WILL finance transphobia. That's just the facts. I'm here to remind you that.

After that, if you still want to buy the game.. do what you want, it's your choice. Just be aware of the consequences of you acts.

Bcs of shit like that people walk away from supporting trans - bcs you do one shit slightly wrong you will be fucking rekt

That's call reactance. "I don't want to support trans because you are too vocal".. well sorry but that's the only thing we can do. No one is forcing you to do anything. relax.

If you don't want to support trans, it's ok, don't make a fuzz about it.

then stfu about hogwarts legacy

???

Once again, the trans community consists different kinds of people with their own standards, values and goals.

Of course, we all agree with that.

Some do indeed want to force it

No. No one is coming into your house to force you to like trans people. No one. This is a right wing moral panic. The only thing trans people are doing is politically fighting. That's not called forcing that's called militantism. Some are indeed more radical than other but NOONE is forcing anything on people.

 

[Mathias]

Why is CforN hijacking this thread ? Didn't he literally say he would leave if he didn't have an entire section for himself ?

 

[Peroroncino]

Why is CforN hijacking this thread ? Didn't he literally say he would leave if he didn't have an entire section for himself ?

He asked for his acc to be deleted once too then returned the same day

 

[NAMELESS]

Actually we are mate.. It's just that Rowling is VERY vocal and therefore very dangerous for transpeople.

None is putting them on a pedestal, that's a really weird stance..



And no one is saying that either. But the fact that buying the game WILL finance transphobia. That's just the facts. I'm here to remind you that.

After that, if you still want to buy the game.. do what you want, it's your choice. Just be aware of the consequences of you acts.



That's call reactance. "I don't want to support trans because you are too vocal".. well sorry but that's the only thing we can do. No one is forcing you to do anything. relax.

If you don't want to support trans, it's ok, don't make a fuzz about it.



???



Of course, we all agree with that.



No. No one is coming into your house to force you to like trans people. No one. This is a right wing moral panic. The only thing trans people are doing is politically fighting. That's not called forcing that's called militantism. Some are indeed more radical than other but NOONE is forcing anything on people.

male trangenders using female bathrooms is not forcing?Get real,you don't want equal rights.you already have those.You want to whine like kids to get attention and get privileges."ohhh but people beat up lgbtq+ people' the law is equal to everyone,you beat someone up you will get arrested.

 

[Emmazrine]

actually rowling is hyper feminist and female supremacist

 

[Logiko]

Why is CforN hijacking this thread ? Didn't he literally say he would leave if he didn't have an entire section for himself ?

I said I would wait not that I would leave lol. No one was talking be glad i'm making this thread lives a bit in the meantime.

He asked for his acc to be deleted once too then returned the same day

I actually tried to delete my account once, but facing the threads of bob, i've decided to stay to be a counter voice.

male trangenders using female bathrooms is not forcing?

You mean like this women who was harrased and kicked out for using the lady's room ?

Who is forcing who here ? Trans or bigots ?

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actually rowling is hyper feminist and female supremacist

Indeed. That's why she is called a Terf.

 

[NAMELESS]

I said I would wait not that I would leave lol. No one was talking be glad i'm making this thread lives a bit in the meantime.



I actually tried to delete my account once, but facing the threads of bob, i've decided to stay to be a counter voice.



You mean like this women who was harrased and kicked out for using the lady's room ?

Who is forcing who here ? Trans or bigots ?

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Indeed. That's why she is called a Terf.

that is such a dumb argument...what fucking women?I hope you don't mean some trans dude=biological women.

 

[Logiko]

that is such a dumb argument...what fucking women?I hope you don't mean some trans dude=biological women.

That women.

 

[NAMELESS]

That women.

That is exactly the problem,some confused dude pulling out his dick out in a women's bathroom.This is criminal.Rapes can happen that way.That dude should have been arrested.

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That women.

Would you like to see your daughter all alone in the bathroom with a GROWN ASS MAN?Well,you probably don't have a daughter and won't have any...but hypotheticaly...

 

[Logiko]

That is exactly the problem,some confused dude pulling out his dick out in a women's bathroom.This is criminal.Rapes can happen that way.That dude should have been arrested.

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Would you like to see your daughter all alone in the bathroom with a GROWN ASS MAN?Well,you probably don't have a daughter and won't have any...but hypotheticaly...

Okay I wasn't sure before so I cancelled the report.

But this time.. you will win a big fat one.

Sorry not sorry.

 

[NAMELESS]

i will put it in One Piece terms for you:can Sanji spy on the girls bathroom if he dresses up as an Okama?No!Do you get it now?

 

[Logiko]

i will put it in One Piece terms for you:can Sanji spy on the girls bathroom if he dresses up as an Okama?No!Do you get it now?

That's two report.

 

[NAMELESS]

Okay I wasn't sure before so I cancelled the report.

But this time.. you will win a big fat one.

Sorry not sorry.

ohh really?i'm shaking...get a life,troll.

 

[Mathias]

I mean, tomorrow I'll buy one of Houellebecq's books. I hope I'm not going to hell for giving money to an islamophobic sexist...

If they agree with you, I will accept it. But I will have to quit this forum as I can't participate in a system that don't understand the importance of having a diversity of political discourse, reduce political discourse by blending all politic together or literally censor it. Especially in a forum talking about a story as political as One Piece.

Right here buddy.

Now, if TAC wants to create a phantom zone for you. Be our guest.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I've linked a LOT of content explaining the problem with Rowling here if you want :)

He's still financing a transphobic hag who probably uses her money to fund institutions that mold political-social aspects of society. Like every freaking billionaire does.

Ok guys i've read some articles on this matter now, including Rowling's personal statement:
https://www.jkrowling.com/opinions/...ns-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/

I’ve been in the public eye now for over twenty years and have never talked publicly about being a domestic abuse and sexual assault survivor. This isn’t because I’m ashamed those things happened to me, but because they’re traumatic to revisit and remember. I also feel protective of my daughter from my first marriage. I didn’t want to claim sole ownership of a story that belongs to her, too. However, a short while ago, I asked her how she’d feel if I were publicly honest about that part of my life, and she encouraged me to go ahead.


I’m mentioning these things now not in an attempt to garner sympathy, but out of solidarity with the huge numbers of women who have histories like mine, who’ve been slurred as bigots for having concerns around single-sex spaces.


I managed to escape my first violent marriage with some difficulty, but I’m now married to a truly good and principled man, safe and secure in ways I never in a million years expected to be. However, the scars left by violence and sexual assault don’t disappear, no matter how loved you are, and no matter how much money you’ve made. My perennial jumpiness is a family joke – and even I know it’s funny – but I pray my daughters never have the same reasons I do for hating sudden loud noises, or finding people behind me when I haven’t heard them approaching.


If you could come inside my head and understand what I feel when I read about a trans woman dying at the hands of a violent man, you’d find solidarity and kinship. I have a visceral sense of the terror in which those trans women will have spent their last seconds on earth, because I too have known moments of blind fear when I realised that the only thing keeping me alive was the shaky self-restraint of my attacker.


I believe the majority of trans-identified people not only pose zero threat to others, but are vulnerable for all the reasons I’ve outlined. Trans people need and deserve protection. Like women, they’re most likely to be killed by sexual partners. Trans women who work in the sex industry, particularly trans women of colour, are at particular risk. Like every other domestic abuse and sexual assault survivor I know, I feel nothing but empathy and solidarity with trans women who’ve been abused by men.


So I want trans women to be safe. At the same time, I do not want to make natal girls and women less safe. When you throw open the doors of bathrooms and changing rooms to any man who believes or feels he’s a woman – and, as I’ve said, gender confirmation certificates may now be granted without any need for surgery or hormones – then you open the door to any and all men who wish to come inside. That is the simple truth.

Imho she sounds like a PTSD victim.

I'm amazed by the fact people these days talk so much about mental health awareness yet the general public seems to completely lack understanding for victims of abuse.

It's mind-boggling to me.

 

[NAMELESS]

That's two report.

I'm pretty sure what that dude did is illegal all over the world,except in some crazies minds.I actually feel sorry for people like that man,it must be miserable to do stuff like this to get attention from people.A sad life and sight.

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I'm not aware about the Rowling deal,can someone summarize?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I mean, tomorrow I'll buy one of Houellebecq's books. I hope I'm not going to hell for giving money to an islamophobic sexist...




Right here buddy.

Now, if TAC wants to create a phantom zone for you. Be our guest.

TAC only wants that for the drama