You don't get to bring up my name as an example of toxicity in this forum while claiming you’ve done something good in real life, embellishing the amount of money you claim to have donated, all while babbling about your concern for poverty and pretending to care about those worse off than you in an attempt to virtue signal.

You acted as though you've accomplished something meaningful just because you say you did, but when someone provides actual evidence of doing what you claim to do, you can't back up your claims and instead deflect or avoid accountability.

Instead of addressing the lack of evidence, you then attempted virtue signal about how your sacrifices are worth it compared to those who have it worse. If that’s true, then why is it so difficult to simply substantiate your claims? It's not about attacking your circumstances, but about holding you accountable for repeatedly using these claims to posture while failing to demonstrate any real actions on your end?
He doesn't need to provide proof, but on the other hand, we don't need to believe in any of his bullshit either.
 

Uncle Van

Humans Evolve. Taxes Never Do.
A question for you regarding a topic discussed in the last couple of pages: Can acts of violence be argued as ethical when carried out by the oppressed?

I ask this because arguments can easily be made by someone behind a screen, yet often, those who preach righteousness have neither witnessed the aftermath of such violent acts nor faced them directly.
I personally hate the topic of morals of ethics because of how extremely subjective it is. It always devolves into people shoving their personal standards in people's faces.

This is the same race that deemed slavery as moral and ethical whenever it's convenient.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Sounds like another excuse to say those who don't think Carrot is an important character are sexist, racist, misogynistic, and all around bad people again.

Fiction ≠ real life.
Still trying to dictate how people, including women, should feel about fictional characters huh? You're so obsessed with female autonomy despite you trying to tell them how to live whenever you disagree with something they say lol
Lol just trying to give you a heads up in case you fall for his tactics and get really annoyed. He really plays moral gymnastics to insinuate you're a bad person whenever you disagree with him, as he's the representative of everything that is morally just(I'm not being funny here). We've had plenty of people discuss respectfully with him only to have their character and morals degraded and get heated.

He views his personal opinions as facts, or doesn't understand the difference between the two.
I get called an uncle tom 24/7 out in the real world. You think I'm shaken by an authoritarian on a weeb forum? Lmao
Never have I agreed 100% with van like this before lmao


Well I said exactly the same

But I will be blunt - an authoritarian ruler is person in power who impose his world view on others through force disregarding people own will.

Logiko likes to see his world view as perfect. He likes to impose it as it's the best. I am afraid to say it but if he ever gets into power then he won't be any different from any other authoritarian ruler because based on his condescending tone and superiority complex and tendency to see his view as the right approach, he will end up imposing his world view on others.

Irony is this is the element we see in patriarchy and in authoritarian rule when women or citizens are subjected to world view of the head -something logiko claims he is against
 

Uncle Van

Humans Evolve. Taxes Never Do.
Never have I agreed 100% with van like this before lmao


Well I said exactly the same
I said this a few months ago
@Logiko

It doesn't matter what you say you seek, but what you cause due to your actions. Your actions, like many other people, do nothing but turn people right wing. You're a fake/uneducated leftist. You say things without knowing what they mean, how to get there, nor the history behind it. Because of this so you fill in the gaps with your assumptions, using your own subjective morality as baseline. Doing such gives you very Liberal and outright authoritarian tendencies.

The constant dismissal of others as morally inferior is one of the big reasons Trump got elected in the first place. And you helped this.
 

Uncle Van

Humans Evolve. Taxes Never Do.
Logiko

The man who unites everyone against him regardless of race, sex, place of birth, political spectrum :milaugh:
Admitted he knows little about U.S History: scolds people about US history because he assumes it doesn't fit his moral compass.

Someone explains what liberalism and it's different forms mean by definition: dismisses all of it because it doesn't fit his version of liberalism.

Someone explains how equality and freedom are left wing Ideals from its historical inception: reject it because he personally doesn't like it.

And he acts shocked that nobody wants to listen to him lol
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Admitted he knows little about U.S History: scolds people about US history because he assumes it doesn't fit his moral compass.

Someone explains what liberalism and it's different forms mean by definition: dismisses all of it because it doesn't fit his version of liberalism.

Someone explains how equality and freedom are left wing Ideals from its historical inception: reject it because he personally doesn't like it.

And he acts shocked that nobody wants to listen to him lol
Tbh, if it wasn't for one piece being slow piece right now I wouldn't even care to see this thread let alone his posts


I need drama to get me going :suresure:
 
Logiko

The man who unites everyone against him regardless of race, sex, place of birth, political spectrum :milaugh:
That's what you think. But in reality, what I do is clarify the political spectrum that was already here but hidden under layers of confusion.

There is no such thing as reactance and people moving toward the more radical beliefs because someone told them that they are not politically ethical. Why ? Because if it was the case, this would mean that your political beliefs are determined by the level of denigration of people who don't think like you against you. Which is a nonsense.

In reality, when someone says "you made people go far right just because you were mean to them" they twist a real observation that is really "those people already were far right but were hidden and now are highlighted".

When people are radicalized, it's because of structural phenomenon and external events, not because they are called out for toxicity. A good example of that is the radicalization of jewish liberals after october 7th toward racist and colonialist pro genocide rethorics. In those case, the trauma created a radicalization.

In reality, I'm only highlighting the REAL political inclination of people here.

People who think they are leftist when they are really just liberals and confused, people who think they are progressist when they are spreading hatefull rethorics, people thinking that they are simple rightists when they are aleady radicalized toward pro fascistic ideas etc.


Admitted he knows little about U.S History: scolds people about US history because he assumes it doesn't fit his moral compass.

Someone explains what liberalism and it's different forms mean by definition: dismisses all of it because it doesn't fit his version of liberalism.

Someone explains how equality and freedom are left wing Ideals from its historical inception: reject it because he personally doesn't like it.

And he acts shocked that nobody wants to listen to him lol
See guys, this is an example of what I'm explaining.

It's not me here who pushed Van to have the same rethoric as people supporting politics like Macron or Harris or Hollande (for those who know him), but my interaction with him allowed me to highlight his way of creating confusion and lie.

For example here, he is trying to twist reality and making it as if me questionning his notion of liberalism or leftism is due to me not liking the definition but in reality it's me simply following the political and sociological research of scientist in social studies..

Van might have a few knowledge (that I do respect) in some fields. But this knowledge and - I think, his sociology - creates big blind spot in sociological fields. Which creates an overconfidence and a lack of general political awereness. Especially concerning materialism and activism.
 
I really never considered the effects of the guilt that supporting genocide with words may have in the future, it's really horrifying, but hopefully people just repent of it and help each other when it comes
 
To ALL people here from Trump enablers to confused leftists who think that people like me are uneducated:

Don't you DARE even come back here in a few years with tears in your eyes and tell us that we didn't warn you:

 
. A good example of that is the radicalization of jewish liberals after october 7th toward racist and colonialist pro genocide rethorics. In those case, the trauma created a radicalization.
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I don’t think there’s been that much radicalization amongst American Jewry. 75% of them still voted for Harris. Yeah Harris isn’t exactly pro Palestine but America has always supported Israel and Zionism.

But Israel has definitely been radicalized over the years
 
I don’t think there’s been that much radicalization amongst American Jewry. 75% of them still voted for Harris. Yeah Harris isn’t exactly pro Palestine but America has always supported Israel and Zionism.

But Israel has definitely been radicalized over the years
Maybe not were you live. But in France, we have seen a radical shift. (which is logical France and Israel are deeply linked together).

A lot of people who were calling themselves leftist are now so radicalized that they are repeating far right and racist rethoric there. On the other hand, it allowed us to get rid of a lot of problematic people on the left.
 
Maybe not were you live. But in France, we have seen a radical shift. (which is logical France and Israel are deeply linked together).

A lot of people who were calling themselves leftist are now so radicalized that they are repeating far right and racist rethoric there. On the other hand, it allowed us to get rid of a lot of problematic people on the left.
Well there’s a difference between liberals and leftists

liberals are centrists, so they obviously echo some right wing talking points
 
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