Unfortunately, we need a gov to provide police, tribunals and an army. So taxes are necessary. But anymore than that isn't. I'm not rich, but i ain't broke either. Taxes are one of the reasons i'm planning to migrate soon. I'm not financing any gov that uses my money to do shit that goes against my moral compass. Brazil is has taxes like Switzerland and public services like Somalia. How isn't that theft? Where is all that money going into? Answer: Politicians, Bankers and Oligarchs bank accounts. How is any of that simping? You are the ones that idolize govs.
No roads? Just an army and police?

why the fuck would I want to live in a country that sounds as shitty as that lol? I don’t have the “reee I’m a self made man anything given to me means I’ve failed” chip on my shoulder sold to me by rich grifters soooo
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Of course, if you have a billion citizens, your economy will be big. Income per capita is what matters. There is barely any new money in Europe.
Most Billionaires and Millionaires inherited their shit in Europe. Socialism makes it hard to climb the economic ladder.
I get you guys don't have any ambition in life, but plz, keep your hands out of other people pockets just cause you have given up on yourself.
Says the “business owner” with no employees lmfao
 
The issue with Brazil has more to do with corruptions than taxes


I'm European
Europe is more liberal economically now than it used to be a few decades ago where the quality of life was higher (like in France)
Europe's main issue is demography
It has everything to do with Taxes. Taxes and bureocracy is what breeds corruption. The more power you give to the State, the more ways you create to abuse power. This is the flaw of any form of government that centralizes power. Anyway, Brazil is a complex topic.
 
It has everything to do with Taxes. Taxes and bureocracy is what breeds corruption. The more power you give to the State, the more ways you create to abuse power. This is the flaw of any form of government that centralizes power. Anyway, Brazil is a complex topic.
So complex that it’s all just taxes
 
A literal 1 min google search:
Yes, the European economy is currently experiencing stagnation. Many reports indicate a period of slow or no growth, particularly in the Eurozone. This is due to a combination of factors including the lingering effects of the pandemic and the war in Ukraine, as well as structural issues like low productivity and a reliance on external factors.

Here's a more detailed look:
  • Stagnation in the Eurozone:
    The Eurozone's real GDP has expanded by only 0.1% per quarter over the past two years, with surveys indicating subdued growth is likely to continue.

  • Impact of Shocks:
    The European economy has been significantly affected by the pandemic and Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

  • Low Productivity:
    Productivity growth in Europe has stagnated, lagging behind other major economies.

  • Structural Issues:
    Experts point to structural issues such as a fragmented market size, lack of risk financing, and a shortage of skilled labor as factors contributing to the stagnation.

  • Germany's Role:
    Germany, as the largest economy in the EU, is facing its own set of challenges, including a decade of stagnation and recent recessions.

  • Investment:
    While investment levels are still relatively high, concerns exist about the effectiveness of investments and potential deterioration in labor productivity.

  • EU's Response:
    Policymakers are aware of the issue and are working on potential solutions, including reforms of social protection systems, labor markets, and migration policies.
While there are forecasts for moderate growth in the EU economy in the coming years, the current situation points to a period of stagnation that requires decisive action to address.
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So complex that it’s all just taxes
Everything to do with taxes=/= Only taxes. I know this isn't a reading comprehension problem. You are just trolling me. You ain't very smart with these baits.
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No roads? Just an army and police?

why the fuck would I want to live in a country that sounds as shitty as that lol? I don’t have the “reee I’m a self made man anything given to me means I’ve failed” chip on my shoulder sold to me by rich grifters soooo
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Says the “business owner” with no employees lmfao
Private sector can handle infrastructure. But ofc ignorant socialists don't know that govs hire private companies to build their roads lmfao. Btw, there are literal billionaires with 0 employees nowadays, bozo. My notebook is a money printing machine. I do hire freelancers, but i don't NEED employes.
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Europe should start opening gulags for foreign prisons for money so they can earn the hero card and avoid all criticism on any grounds. Then NAMELESS will just jerk off and go “REEE HEROES” in every convo.

does that work? It’d be more useful than his current spiel

what if the mafiosos are heroes tho?
You are attention and affection starved, aren't you?
 
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A literal 1 min google search:
Yes, the European economy is currently experiencing stagnation. Many reports indicate a period of slow or no growth, particularly in the Eurozone. This is due to a combination of factors including the lingering effects of the pandemic and the war in Ukraine, as well as structural issues like low productivity and a reliance on external factors.

Here's a more detailed look:
  • Stagnation in the Eurozone:
    The Eurozone's real GDP has expanded by only 0.1% per quarter over the past two years, with surveys indicating subdued growth is likely to continue.

  • Impact of Shocks:
    The European economy has been significantly affected by the pandemic and Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

  • Low Productivity:
    Productivity growth in Europe has stagnated, lagging behind other major economies.

  • Structural Issues:
    Experts point to structural issues such as a fragmented market size, lack of risk financing, and a shortage of skilled labor as factors contributing to the stagnation.

  • Germany's Role:
    Germany, as the largest economy in the EU, is facing its own set of challenges, including a decade of stagnation and recent recessions.

  • Investment:
    While investment levels are still relatively high, concerns exist about the effectiveness of investments and potential deterioration in labor productivity.

  • EU's Response:
    Policymakers are aware of the issue and are working on potential solutions, including reforms of social protection systems, labor markets, and migration policies.
While there are forecasts for moderate growth in the EU economy in the coming years, the current situation points to a period of stagnation that requires decisive action to address.
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Everything to do with taxes=/= Only taxes. I know this isn't a reading comprehension problem. You are just trolling me. You ain't very smart with these baits.
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Private sector can handle infrastructure. But ofc ignorant socialists don't know that govs hire private companies to build their roads lmfao. Btw, there are literal billionaires with 0 employees nowadays, bozo. My notebook is a money printing machine. I do hire freelancers, but i don't NEED employes.
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You are attention and affection starved, aren't you?
Govs hire private companies with what money if no taxes

I know you love South America so something g tells me these’ll be the military only/no natives allowed roads I’ve seen in touristy areas there, where money rules all. But it’s asking for charity to have the government do anything but put their feet on your spine.

Not to mention dumbass you doing one minute google search is not something that makes others confident in your stance lol. Going from “is so complicated” to “here is Google ai summary” is baffling
 
Of course, if you have a billion citizens, your economy will be big. Income per capita is what matters. There is barely any new money in Europe.
In 2025, the countries with the highest per capita income are Luxembourg, Ireland, Switzerland, and Singapore
Literally 4 fucking european countries, bruh.

it' almost as if its more complicated than "socialism bad"
Most Billionaires and Millionaires inherited their shit in Europe. Socialism makes it hard to climb the economic ladder.
I get you guys don't have any ambition in life, but plz, keep your hands out of other people pockets just cause you have given up on yourself.
I was born in a low income area and make well above 6 figures, I am probably the last guy you want to talk about "lacking ambition"
 
Literally 4 fucking european countries, bruh.

it' almost as if its more complicated than "socialism bad"

I was born in a low income area and make well above 6 figures, I am probably the last guy you want to talk about "lacking ambition"
It’s the conservative scheme (read: blatant known lie) to pretend the only people who are in support of any taxes are Le welfare queens
 
This world has flipped upside down with how these people act as the morality police, getting offended by everything and then act superior when their not.
Stop pretending to have these principles lmfao. Never ever met a single pussy crying about this who doesn't act the same way or just doesn't realize people dislike them because of their actual flaws lol.

Like you complain about how everyone gets offended and acts superior, then it takes one second to find out you were one of the pussies crying about bud light having le evil woke trans in it, or ubisoft le woke black samurai. Pot meet fucking kettle crybaby ass. You spend decades of your life crying about how the woke are so evil and act superior to everyone and like theyre indoctrinated and cry to mommy when people turn it around on you. GROW UP LMFAO AND STOP GOONING IN PUBLIC
 
Literally 4 fucking european countries, bruh.

it' almost as if its more complicated than "socialism bad"

I was born in a low income area and make well above 6 figures, I am probably the last guy you want to talk about "lacking ambition"
I thought you were talking about China. Pretty sure those ain't socialist either:
"Luxembourg is not a socialist country, but it does have a strong socialist party within its multi-party system. The Luxembourg Socialist Workers' Party (LSAP) is a social democratic party that has been a junior partner in many coalition governments. Luxembourg's political system is a parliamentary representative democratic monarchy, with the prime minister as the head of government.

Switzerland is not a socialist country. It's known for its strong free-market economy and high degree of economic freedom. While the Social Democratic Party of Switzerland (SP) supports social democratic and some democratic socialist policies, the overall system leans towards a liberal economic model with a robust social safety net, according to Wikipedia.

Ireland is not a socialist country. It's a parliamentary, representative democratic republic, and a member of the European Union. While Ireland's political landscape includes socialist parties and influences, the country's overall economic and political system is a mixed economy, combining private freedoms with centralized planning and government regulation. "

Singapore isn't even located in Europe lol Are u sure you are European? Sorry, if i offendend you. Talking with people in here has made me associate being socialist with being broke. Most of the guys here bitch about their income and jobs. Good to see someone in this fucking forum believes in hard work.:BigW:
 
I thought you were talking about China. Pretty sure those ain't socialist either:
Luxembourg is not a socialist country, but it does have a strong socialist party within its multi-party system. The Luxembourg Socialist Workers' Party (LSAP) is a social democratic party that has been a junior partner in many coalition governments. Luxembourg's political system is a parliamentary representative democratic monarchy, with the prime minister as the head of government.

Switzerland is not a socialist country. It's known for its strong free-market economy and high degree of economic freedom. While the Social Democratic Party of Switzerland (SP) supports social democratic and some democratic socialist policies, the overall system leans towards a liberal economic model with a robust social safety net, according to Wikipedia.

Ireland is not a socialist country. It's a parliamentary, representative democratic republic, and a member of the European Union. While Ireland's political landscape includes socialist parties and influences, the country's overall economic and political system is a mixed economy, combining private freedoms with centralized planning and government regulation.

Singapore isn't even located in Europe lol Are u sure you are European? Sorry, if i offedend you. Talking with people in here has made associated being socialist with being broke. Most of the guys here bitch about their income and jobs. Good to see someone in this fucking forum believes in hard work.:BigW:
Everything you just said promotes the idea that rather than the "reee theyre becoming le evil socialist" a more measured response like le evil libs are having is warranted. You say all these things about how these countries, which have all been fearmongered about becoming imminently socialist or falling to ruin because of commie policies, aren't really socialist. But somehow New York will be a favela to you lmfao
 
Stop pretending to have these principles lmfao. Never ever met a single pussy crying about this who doesn't act the same way or just doesn't realize people dislike them because of their actual flaws lol.

Like you complain about how everyone gets offended and acts superior, then it takes one second to find out you were one of the pussies crying about bud light having le evil woke trans in it, or ubisoft le woke black samurai. Pot meet fucking kettle crybaby ass. You spend decades of your life crying about how the woke are so evil and act superior to everyone and like theyre indoctrinated and cry to mommy when people turn it around on you. GROW UP LMFAO AND STOP GOONING IN PUBLIC
Never seen such a whiney ass bitch such as you crying over what others do. You're offended over a statement, seems like it spoke to you especially.
Continue to crashout.
 
Govs hire private companies with what money if no taxes

I know you love South America so something g tells me these’ll be the military only/no natives allowed roads I’ve seen in touristy areas there, where money rules all. But it’s asking for charity to have the government do anything but put their feet on your spine.

Not to mention dumbass you doing one minute google search is not something that makes others confident in your stance lol. Going from “is so complicated” to “here is Google ai summary” is baffling
Again, you either don't know how to read or you are just putting words in my mouth to troll. Either way, you gotta stop assuming people said shit, just cause you want to fit people in your stereotypes.
 
Never seen such a whiney ass bitch such as you crying over what others do. You're offended of a statement, seems like it spoke to you especially.
Pot meet kettle lmfao its like all of you are the kids who still couldn't read in 12th grade english class lol. You responded to me angry about me responding to you, then acted like only I participated. lol

How is it you are so unaware of your own flaws and actions. You just compartmentalize. When you cry about the trans, its justified, not being offended. Its just you being embarrassed of recognizing your own actions.
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Again, you either don't know how to read or you are just putting words in my mouth to troll. Either way, you gotta stop assuming people said shit, just cause you want to fit people in your stereotypes.
So no answer on the money?
 
Pot meet kettle lmfao its like all of you are the kids who still couldn't read in 12th grade english class lol.

How is it you are so unaware of your own flaws and actions. You just compartmentalize. When you cry about the trans, its justified, not being offended. Its just you being embarrassed of recognizing your own actions.
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So no answer on the money?
Keep telling yourself that, seems like my Morality Police hit the nail on the head. Haha Get bent.
 
I thought you were talking about China. Pretty sure those ain't socialist either:
"Luxembourg is not a socialist country, but it does have a strong socialist party within its multi-party system. The Luxembourg Socialist Workers' Party (LSAP) is a social democratic party that has been a junior partner in many coalition governments. Luxembourg's political system is a parliamentary representative democratic monarchy, with the prime minister as the head of government.

Switzerland is not a socialist country. It's known for its strong free-market economy and high degree of economic freedom. While the Social Democratic Party of Switzerland (SP) supports social democratic and some democratic socialist policies, the overall system leans towards a liberal economic model with a robust social safety net, according to Wikipedia.

Ireland is not a socialist country. It's a parliamentary, representative democratic republic, and a member of the European Union. While Ireland's political landscape includes socialist parties and influences, the country's overall economic and political system is a mixed economy, combining private freedoms with centralized planning and government regulation. "

Singapore isn't even located in Europe lol Are u sure you are European? Sorry, if i offendend you. Talking with people in here has made me associate being socialist with being broke. Most of the guys here bitch about their income and jobs. Good to see someone in this fucking forum believes in hard work.:BigW:
literally all countries in Europe are capitalist social democracies. There isn't a single socialist country in the west.
 
Everything you just said promotes the idea that rather than the "reee theyre becoming le evil socialist" a more measured response like le evil libs are having is warranted. You say all these things about how these countries, which have all been fearmongered about becoming imminently socialist or falling to ruin because of commie policies, aren't really socialist. But somehow New York will be a favela to you lmfao
Again, where did i mention New York in any of my posts? The other dude mentioned pretty capitalistic European nations as way to defend socialism. I just pointed the error is his statement. Socialism does promote economic stagnation. It is a fact.
 
Again, where did i mention New York in any of my posts? The other dude mentioned pretty capitalistic European nations as way to defend socialism. I just pointed the error is his statement. Socialism does promote economic stagnation. It is a fact.
Typical conservative "I just entered the convo when they were talking about it. but I wasn't actually making any point at all about the situation we were talking about." Why does every one of yall do this ever so constantly. Like little slippery frogs in the grass lol

convos have context if you play the "my statements were contextless" game you are a grifter or a ret***, as we all knew
 
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