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The “Families First” party strikes again by taking away education grants and funding for after school programs…hope all the righties who voted for this enjoy a full two months with their annoying children and nowhere to drop them off because ICE needs a few more billion dollars!!
The “Families First” party strikes again by taking away education grants and funding for after school programs…hope all the righties who voted for this enjoy a full two months with their annoying children and nowhere to drop them off because ICE needs a few more billion dollars!!
But, here's the thing: Trump's administration, and a lot of people in the current US government's higher branches, are even worse when it comes to American Values: Freedom. Diversity. Community. Open and Sensible Trade. Foreign Diplomacy. The USA always had people doing horrible stuff in it, but the GOOD PEOPLE like Teddy and Lincoln and Kennedy understood those values, despite their individual flaws as people.
I'm supportive of deporting ANYONE who comes to a country, and then starts causing serious violent/sexual trouble there.
But, what's the point of having different standards for people who came to this country legally, and people who were born here? If anything, Immigrants who truly research the country's they try to move into are more supportive of that country's values, than people who actively root against entire groups of people over agendas, and ignore the actually functional laws of their country to do so.
I'm all for ignoring laws that SUCK and are pushed through via fraud, or are based in hurting people (slavery and the Holocaust were made legal by the US and German governments respectively), but, what's the point of acting like the foreign people who came here legally and hate America are worse than the people who were born here and have spent their entire lives using their wealth to steal from the country?
Did they do it legally? Yeah.
Their medical industry, military industrial complex, and branches "legally" did it. Because they used money to rig the laws in their favor.
They're worse than some random Mexican stealing government funding, and DOGE proved that. The looked HARD to find all this money supposedly going to these "Liberal" money sinks, and, guess what? The wasted money was from the government lying about where the money went, and pouring it into the military and rich entities.
The idea that poor kids getting cancer treatment gave us trillions dollars of debt is ridiculous. The idea that poor migrants were causing all the theft and crime in a country run by known felons is ridiculous.
Are dangerous migrants who hate America/other countries taking refuges a problem? Yeah, but, not as much of a problem as the rich people actually kidnapping people in broad daylight.
When the fuck have Mexican Cartels gone around trying to kidnap American-born children out of American Elementary Schools?
ICE is worse THAN THE FUCKING CARTELS when it comes to kidnapping USA citizens, it's ridiculous and embarrassing.
The idea that we're focusing on a few million migrants over the 100+ million who tolerate their government kidnapping random Citizens, murdering poor children for having different skin colors/religions/nationalities, and letting a list of ultra-rich international child-raping sex-traffickers go free, is absolutely ridiculous.
Our priorities are NOT in the right places.
The poor people you're talking about DO NOT HAVE the money to fund the wars and sex crime rings we're looking at. The USA has JUST as much info as their citizens as China does on theirs. How many times do we hear that the shooter was known as a threat by police before the shooting??? Do you honestly think these crimes from Migrants who hate American, and crazy white supremacists, would happen, if the government was trying to stop the crimes you're talking about?
No. The US Government is too busy protecting the criminals running it. The people running the US Government are fine letting Americans get murdered by Cartels, because it just would fuel Trump's anti-Migrant propaganda even more.
You can't say you care about values while admitting what you're doing is very illegal. This isn't breaking a bad law. Trump is breaking good laws to attack people he hates to scapegoat others, so Americans focus on attacking random poor people, rather than people like Trump who are truly destroying America and many international economies.
The US Government wants the American people to hate each other, rather than the rich parasites like Trump who are really destroying America, and many other countries in the Middle East, Africa, Europe, and South America, and who are making money off the poorest people in the world dying under their greasy heels.
I'm supportive of deporting ANYONE who comes to a country, and then starts causing serious violent/sexual trouble there.
But, what's the point of having different standards for people who came to this country legally, and people who were born here? If anything, Immigrants who truly research the country's they try to move into are more supportive of that country's values, than people who actively root against entire groups of people over agendas, and ignore the actually functional laws of their country to do so.
I'm all for ignoring laws that SUCK and are pushed through via fraud, or are based in hurting people (slavery and the Holocaust were made legal by the US and German governments respectively), but, what's the point of acting like the foreign people who came here legally and hate America are worse than the people who were born here and have spent their entire lives using their wealth to steal from the country?
Did they do it legally? Yeah.
Their medical industry, military industrial complex, and branches "legally" did it. Because they used money to rig the laws in their favor.
They're worse than some random Mexican stealing government funding, and DOGE proved that. The looked HARD to find all this money supposedly going to these "Liberal" money sinks, and, guess what? The wasted money was from the government lying about where the money went, and pouring it into the military and rich entities.
The idea that poor kids getting cancer treatment gave us trillions dollars of debt is ridiculous. The idea that poor migrants were causing all the theft and crime in a country run by known felons is ridiculous.
Are dangerous migrants who hate America/other countries taking refuges a problem? Yeah, but, not as much of a problem as the rich people actually kidnapping people in broad daylight.
When the fuck have Mexican Cartels gone around trying to kidnap American-born children out of American Elementary Schools?
ICE is worse THAN THE FUCKING CARTELS when it comes to kidnapping USA citizens, it's ridiculous and embarrassing.
The idea that we're focusing on a few million migrants over the 100+ million who tolerate their government kidnapping random Citizens, murdering poor children for having different skin colors/religions/nationalities, and letting a list of ultra-rich international child-raping sex-traffickers go free, is absolutely ridiculous.
Our priorities are NOT in the right places.
The poor people you're talking about DO NOT HAVE the money to fund the wars and sex crime rings we're looking at. The USA has JUST as much info as their citizens as China does on theirs. How many times do we hear that the shooter was known as a threat by police before the shooting??? Do you honestly think these crimes from Migrants who hate American, and crazy white supremacists, would happen, if the government was trying to stop the crimes you're talking about?
No. The US Government is too busy protecting the criminals running it. The people running the US Government are fine letting Americans get murdered by Cartels, because it just would fuel Trump's anti-Migrant propaganda even more.
You can't say you care about values while admitting what you're doing is very illegal. This isn't breaking a bad law. Trump is breaking good laws to attack people he hates to scapegoat others, so Americans focus on attacking random poor people, rather than people like Trump who are truly destroying America and many international economies.
The US Government wants the American people to hate each other, rather than the rich parasites like Trump who are really destroying America, and many other countries in the Middle East, Africa, Europe, and South America, and who are making money off the poorest people in the world dying under their greasy heels.
I know it is rich coming from me who used to overreact to everything, but I think this is a reach. I respect this is a sensitive topic for you, and you might have family who are effected by this, but Nameless, though serious about his political views, didn't appear to be laughing at people being stripped of their citizenship for an arbitrary reason. I think he just believes this will never work in practice, and finds it amusing that people think Trump an even accomplish such a thing.
Regardless if he is right or wrong about that, it's terrible that the response is for people (not just you) to levy insinuations that he's a sociopath. That shit is toxic, and will only derail the topic. Beat him without the insults if you're correct.
I will confirm, however, that I am not too well-versed with this topic. I do not know if what Trump and ICE are doing is right or wrong, and I probably do not understand the intricacies of the issue either. So this is not a defence of Nameless' points. I just think this turned needlessly accusatory.
Regardless if he is right or wrong about that, it's terrible that the response is for people (not just you) to levy insinuations that he's a sociopath. That shit is toxic, and will only derail the topic. Beat him without the insults if you're correct.
I will confirm, however, that I am not too well-versed with this topic. I do not know if what Trump and ICE are doing is right or wrong, and I probably do not understand the intricacies of the issue either. So this is not a defence of Nameless' points. I just think this turned needlessly accusatory.
I literally said this thread is about to get fun. Bro, went full conspiracy mode accusing me of saying things i never did. I think it's the usual gaslight from these people. I learned to never take comments from c4n, toby and solis like they are acting in good faith. The new guy that got banned is like them, but dumber. To imply anything , you need to say something about a topic. I literally emitted 0 opinions.
I agree with some of your takes, but learn this: The sum of two mistakes does not equal into a positive. "Huh, There are born Americans that do harm to this nation". Yeah, about that... how about NOT bringing more people like this into your nation? The rest of your post about Cartels and stuff is just whataboutism. I stop following you recently and have you on ignore. Your posts are too C4N like: Too long, too many disconnected ideas, conspiratorial and quite detached from reality. Don't bother replying to my posts. I'm not going to engage in this nonsense.
Edit: Wtf is this supposed to mean?
"The idea that we're focusing on a few million migrants over the 100+ million who tolerate their government kidnapping random Citizens, murdering poor children for having different skin colors/religions/nationalities, and letting a list of ultra-rich international child-raping sex-traffickers go free, is absolutely ridiculous."
Was that aimed at Trump supporters? What would you like to do with them? You gotta learn that you have to tolerate people that have opinions and values different from yours in a democracy, bro. "Democracy this, democracy that... but fuck those 100 million Americans that don't think like me". See how hypocritical you guys are.
I agree with some of your takes, but learn this: The sum of two mistakes does not equal into a positive. "Huh, There are born Americans that do harm to this nation". Yeah, about that... how about NOT bringing more people like this into your nation? The rest of your post about Cartels and stuff is just whataboutism. I stop following you recently and have you on ignore. Your posts are too C4N like: Too long, too many disconnected ideas, conspiratorial and quite detached from reality. Don't bother replying to my posts. I'm not going to engage in this nonsense.
Edit: Wtf is this supposed to mean?
"The idea that we're focusing on a few million migrants over the 100+ million who tolerate their government kidnapping random Citizens, murdering poor children for having different skin colors/religions/nationalities, and letting a list of ultra-rich international child-raping sex-traffickers go free, is absolutely ridiculous."
Was that aimed at Trump supporters? What would you like to do with them? You gotta learn that you have to tolerate people that have opinions and values different from yours in a democracy, bro. "Democracy this, democracy that... but fuck those 100 million Americans that don't think like me". See how hypocritical you guys are.
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Keep deleting my posts if you want @AL sama, I see what you’re doing and I hope the boots you’re licking taste delicious, because you don’t get extra points for censorship 
