Controversial General Political Discussion

[Gaimon The Pirate]

I love constantly getting texts that say shit like “We have to STOP the right from destroying every single institution; donate $20 right now to show YOU care about democracy” Maybe I would give to the cause if you did a single God damn thing to push back on these conservative cocksuckers?? Do your job first, then you get paid

It's fake opposition, the whole essence of modern democracy.
No matter what you vote in the US, money go in the pocket of your best allies or laundered into the pocket of shareholders and billionaires.
No matter what you vote in the EU, money go in the pocked of your best allies or laundered into the pocket of shareholders and billionaires.

 

[Roo]

Lol.
LMAO even.
Is there an actual belief that the democratic is gonna do anything for the "working man person"?

The last candidates were literally Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
This is literally the boomer meme

Biden's infrastructure bill literally provided a bunch of jobs for working class and increased federal min wage lmao

I know it's hard for a foreigner to understand but U.S politics are more than their foreign policy

 

[Jew D. Boy]

It's fake opposition, the whole essence of modern democracy.
No matter what you vote in the US, money go in the pocket of your best allies or laundered into the pocket of shareholders and billionaires.
No matter what you vote in the EU, money go in the pocked of your best allies or laundered into the pocket of shareholders and billionaires.

Believe me, I know my money never goes to things I want it to go to…I would love to see unhoused people in my city get affordable housing, potholes all over the roads be filled, and improvements to public parks; instead, some lobbyist’s kid is gonna skate through Cornell or Yale on my dime

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Biden's infrastructure bill literally provided a bunch of jobs for working class and increased federal min wage lmao

I know it's hard for a foreigner to understand but U.S politics are more than their foreign policy

I frankly do not care about internal politics of US, where a bunch of illegal immigrants are crucial in a semi-slavery economy.
It might be, but it's hard to simpathise for a country that keeps escalating problems for the EU whoever is on the throne.
From Europe, they are indistinguishable.

 

[Roo]

I frankly do not care about internal politics of US,.

then why even comment on it LMAO

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

then why even comment on it LMAO

Because US politics influence the rest of the world much more that the ones of individual countries in EU?
Are you for real?
US can go and order countries in the NATO to increase spending, i.e. money go to US weapon makers to fight US wars.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Believe me, I know my money never goes to things I want it to go to…I would love to see unhoused people in my city get affordable housing, potholes all over the roads be filled, and improvements to public parks; instead, some lobbyist’s kid is gonna skate through Cornell or Yale on my dime

OK now where's the well regulated militia that fights against the creatures who are making sure none of these crucial points will ever ve addressed and more problems are created? Why do the villains have all the means??


Instead y'all leave the field to a wannabe dictator and his believers EVEN THOSE that live far from the united states, as seen below⬇️

You hate guns. You don't care about religion. You have socialist tendencies(to put it mildly). American mindset is individualistic. You mindset your collectivist. I will not even get into the topic of ancestry, because you and others will call me racist for saying that citizenship should be inherited. I will stop this here, before it turns into another shit show.

go full Chinese

Freedom is dying

My dude There's barely any difference between Trumpistan and China. Both are autocratic, both crack down on dissidents, both are imperialist and the list goes on.

And tou still don't understand the definition of communism

you want "assault rifles" gone... There is no logical reason to justify this

 

[Roo]

Because US politics influence the rest of the world much more that the ones of individual countries in EU?
Are you for real?
US can go and order countries in the NATO to increase spending, i.e. money go to US weapon makers to fight US wars.

No, you are commenting about internal politics, I am asking why even compare the DNC and Republicans when you don't care about their differences at all?

I can't imagine not caring about germany's internal politics and saying the fascist party is the same as the left one. That's idiotic. Opinions are like assholes, keep your uniformed one to yourself

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

@Jew D. Boy @Toby D. Dog
Link is here if you're interested

https://f-droid.org/en/packages/app.fedilab.nitterizeme/

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

No, you are commenting about internal politics, I am asking why even compare the DNC and Republicans when you don't care about their differences at all?

I can't imagine not caring about germany's internal politics and saying the fascist party is the same as the left one. That's idiotic. Opinions are like assholes, keep your uniformed one to yourself

Because there is no difference. Your money still go in the pockets of Israel, your billionaires keep getting richer and your poor poorer.
When a party changes, billionaires align and shift alligiance. One might say that they hate immigrants then do a 180 to allow immigrants to stay to work as salves in the field,but the REAL things remain the same.
Both party voted for invasion of IRAQ, both parties are ok with genocide in Gaza.

Obama spied on the EU leaders, bombed Lybia compromising energy supply, fostered the Arab spring.
Bush invaded Iraq and Afghanistan.
Trump and Biden are more of the same.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Lol.
LMAO even.
Is there an actual belief that the democratic is gonna do anything for the "working man person"?

The last candidates were literally Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
This is literally the boomer meme

You’re barking at the wrong tree my guy. I constantly criticize the people you just listed.

 

[Roo]

Trump and Biden are more of the same.

Biden pushed for an increase in corporate tax
Trump got his tax cuts passed
Biden created more jobs for the middle class
Trump increased middle class tax burden
Obama created the ACA
Trump literally cut medicare/medicaid

If all of your post is about foreign policy then you just keep proving my point. You claim they are the same without even understanding key differences

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

You’re barking at the wrong tree my guy. I constantly criticize the people you just listed.

Oh I am not criticising you Toby, just makes me laugh that I immediately went to a boomer meme in my brain reading your message

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Biden pushed for an increase in corporate tax
Trump got his tax cuts passed
Biden created more jobs for the middle class
Trump increased middle class tax burden
Obama created the ACA
Trump literally cut medicare/medicaid

Again, to say they are the same is absolutely retarded. Foreign policy isn't the only policy.

And yet, richer got richer, poor got poorer.
https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and-ethnicity/2024/05/31/the-state-of-the-american-middle-class/

They might pass bills, sign laws, but the power that changes life is not there.
The power is on how much thigns cost in shop compared to how much you earn and you lose in taxes.

 

[Roo]

Oh I am not criticising you Toby, just makes me laugh that I immediately went to a boomer meme in my brain reading your message

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And yet, richer got richer, poor got poorer.
https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and-ethnicity/2024/05/31/the-state-of-the-american-middle-class/

They might pass bills, sign laws, but the power that changes life is not there.
The power is on how much thigns cost in shop compared to how much you earn and you lose in taxes.

did you actually read the article, or are you just randomly posting graphs?

the poor did not get poorer..

The median income of middle-class households increased from about $66,400 in 1970 to $106,100 in 2022, or 60%. Over this period, the median income of upper-income households increased 78%, from about $144,100 to $256,900. (Incomes are scaled to a three-person household and expressed in 2023 dollars.)
The median income of lower-income households grew more slowly than that of other households, increasing from about $22,800 in 1970 to $35,300 in 2022, or 55%.

there is wealth inequality, but is not as simple as "poor gets poorer" or "rich gets richer"

edit: also you do realize since the 70s there has been more republican terms? lmao

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

@Roo this is your Queen?

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-...-native-americans-cowboy-carter-b2778831.html

“Which is that Black people too can engage in American nationalism," she said. "Black people too can profit from the atrocities of American empire. It is a message that tells you to abandon immigrants, Indigenous people, and people who live outside of the United States. It is a message that tells you not only is it a virtue to have been born in this country but the longer your line extends in this country the more virtuous you are.”

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

did you actually read the article, or are you just randomly posting graphs?

the poor did not get poorer..



there is wealth inequality, but is not as simple as "poor gets poorer" or "rich gets richer"

edit: also you do realize since the 70s there has been more republican terms? lmao

Why would I care if there were more republican if I believe that they are the same? This is my point.

Also, let me break down what you quoted:

Higher income - increased 78%
Medium income - Increased 60 %
Lower income - Increased 55 %

So, we can agree, that the poorer income grew way less than the higher class. EDIT: in the middle range, but now I will show you why it's fake growth anyway.
Now, to break down for inflation using https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm


66,400 in 1970 has buying power of 564,689.84, compared to an income today of 106,100
144,100 in 1970 has buying power of 1,225,479.01, compared to an income today of 256,900
22800 in 1970 has buying power of 193,899.52 , compared to an income today of 35,300

As the number clearly show, sometimes looking at "income goes up" is not enough. Inflation destroyed the middle class and it's worse the poorer you get, because each year your money value less.

I cannot explain this any easier.
They might increase the salary but inflation outpaced that ages ago.

EDIT: Guess who is not affected by this?The people who control the inflation the market and the corporations. Lobbyist, that have in their pocket the entire US parliament or senate. And guess what, republican or democrat, the biggest index is that market has to go up. And the common man pays.

 

[NAMELESS]

yeah of course, because trickle down economics and they move business around and pay salaries.
https://www.weforum.org/stories/2021/12/global-income-inequality-gap-report-rich-poor/

Jarvis, why do people liek Nameless spout retarded points of view that are detrimental for themselves to defend billionaires who exploit the system?

I'm fishing good

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did you actually read the article, or are you just randomly posting graphs?

the poor did not get poorer..



there is wealth inequality, but is not as simple as "poor gets poorer" or "rich gets richer"

edit: also you do realize since the 70s there has been more republican terms? lmao

 

[Monkey D Theories]

https://www.newsweek.com/immigration-ice-bill-trump-2093456

We’re so fucking cooked lol

they’re giving ICE more funding than the militaries of most 3rd world countries. I shit you not, ICE is now better funded than the fucking IDF.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

https://www.newsweek.com/immigration-ice-bill-trump-2093456

We’re so fucking cooked lol

they’re giving ICE more funding than the militaries of most 3rd world countries. I shit you not, ICE is now better funded than the fucking IDF.

Modern day Gestapo gets more funding from Der Führer to cleanse the homeland of all undesirables…let’s hope this debacle ends the same way as that one did

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Modern day Gestapo gets more funding from Der Führer to cleanse the homeland of all undesirables…let’s hope this debacle ends the same way as that one did

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Modern day Gestapo gets more funding from Der Führer to cleanse the homeland of all undesirables…let’s hope this debacle ends the same way as that one did

the thing is, Trump can’t actually implement an ethnic cleansing, because that would crash the economy. The GOP is funded by the rich and big businesses.

What I think will likely happen, however, is that Trump will use ICE as a vehicle for his corruption. Raids and deportations will be carried out selectively to punish Trump’s enemies, while those allied with Trump will be spared.

We will see many more ICE raids in blue states and big cities. Individuals and companies that go against Trump will also be targets.

ultimately think he’ll be less like Hitler and more like Putin, if that means anything