Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

Corruption has spread within allowing it to not work as intended.

Capitalism is working perfectly as it was theorized. This is what I demonstrated to Hererra earlier.

There is corruption of course here and there, but inequalities exist because Capitalism is working perfectly.

I don't care, I cannot change the system at the moment, I can complain about one of the issues.
I do not care about idealistic socialist utopia, I talk about real life and my actual tomorrow.

That would be a materialistic one. Anticapitalism is the opposite of idealism, it's materialism thinking mainly

But don't underestimate the power of the number.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

What was your point again ? I mean do you realize that people wanting immigration for cheap labor force (the right and the far-right too) and people wanting to welcome immigrants with strong labor rights (the left) are not the same ?



Egoist mindset.

I am not talking left and right, as i do not believe there is a difference.
Both serve the same interests and the same agenda.
Both say words but when acting act in the same general directions.

You know in Italy the left destroyed worker rights, for example? Removing rights and all.

Tell me a country that in the last 30 years of unregulated globalism has got better. Tell me one. Left wing, right wing, just one. Where the middle class has got better, no obscene metrics like gdp.

 

[NAMELESS]

Source on Orwell being a democratic socialist: https://biographyonline.net/socialism-george-orwell/

By the way @NAMELESS ^

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage_to_Catalonia


"Homage to Catalonia is a memoir and the sixth book by English writer George Orwell published in 1938, in which he accounts his personal experiences and observations while fighting in the Spanish Civil War. "

"The war was one of the defining events of his political outlook and a significant part of what led him to write in 1946, "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it."[1] "












Now time for more epic memes

Desert Island Economics:

I don't give a fuck about Orwell. I don't like social-democracy either. I'm not anybodies nanie. My ideology is Minarchism.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

You can simply just not give into their bullshit.
Don't fall for unhealthy food advertisements. Don't get hooked on subscriptions to services especially if you don't even need them
Don't sit in your house 24/7 looking like a bump on a log and actually get active and do things to improve life
Which are things a sadly large amount of Americans don't do

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Pretty much yeah

I do all those things.
I cook my meals, have my family and pirate whatever I can. But it's just me, no impact on the wider world.

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In spite of how most people can recognize that billionaires are a problem, they still would rather blame immigrants for their current economic situation instead of the people who actually determine if they're able to get a fair wage and the basic needs.

The billionaires have successfully weaponized xenophobia and racism against the masses.

Billionaires are the enemy, and unregulated/pseudo-regulated immigration is ONE OF the weapons

 

[Blax Blah]

You can simply just not give into their bullshit.

Don't fall for unhealthy food advertisements. Don't get hooked on subscriptions to services especially if you don't even need them

Don't sit in your house 24/7 looking like a bump on a log and actually get active and do things to improve life

Which are things a sadly large amount of Americans don't do

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Pretty much yeah

About this


I would like to say, so far in my life, one of my achievements has been getting a very strong body, for example I used to do a bit over 1000 push ups a day, and if I warm up to it a bit I could start it up again, but it does take a lot of time so I don't really do it anymore


And when I look at the fitness culture online and discussions about it, I think it is pretty discouraging and I really dislike it


I think the way to get better at these things is to lift each other up, not to treat ourselves as superior to others or to put others down, or to refuse to lift others up

 

[Logiko]

I am not talking left and right, as i do not believe there is a difference.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

I would like to say, so far in my life, one of my achievements has been getting a very strong body, for example I used to do a bit over 1000 push ups a day, and if I warm up to it a bit I could start it up again, but it does take a lot of time so I don't really do it anymore


And when I look at the fitness culture online and discussions about it, I think it is pretty discouraging and I really dislike it


I think the way to get better at these things is to lift each other up, not to treat ourselves as superior to others or to put others down, or to refuse to lift others up

Saitama maxing

 

[Blax Blah]

Saitama maxing

Those Wano roofpiece workouts were legendary

 

[Etzel Andergast]

I was walking down the street and there's a protest going on, and for some reason they're selling Israeli flags

😭😭😭😭😭

 

[NAMELESS]

I was walking down the street and there's a protest going on, and for some reason they're selling Israeli flags

😭😭😭😭😭

Evangelicals love Israel.

 

[Mathias]

Unregulated immigration destroys workers power, you contradict yourself in the same phrase.

There is no such thing as unregulated immigration. It's always regulated.

I am not talking left and right, as i do not believe there is a difference.
Both serve the same interests and the same agenda.
Both say words but when acting act in the same general directions.

You know in Italy the left destroyed worker rights, for example? Removing rights and all.

Tell me a country that in the last 30 years of unregulated globalism has got better. Tell me one. Left wing, right wing, just one. Where the middle class has got better, no obscene metrics like gdp.

Since the end of the cold war, the left died and only "one way" has been embraced aka neoliberalism. Wether it's the traditional right or official left getting elected. The economic ideology was more or less equivalent.

I mean you sound confused. Do you know who Ronald Reagan and the Chicago school of economics are ?

Before neoliberalism was keynesian economics. Still capitalism but kinda left-leaning.

I was walking down the street and there's a protest going on, and for some reason they're selling Israeli flags

😭😭😭😭😭

Out of context, it seems like Israelis are drying their towels before going at the beach

 

[Uncle Van]

In spite of how most people can recognize that billionaires are a problem, they still would rather blame immigrants for their current economic situation instead of the people who actually determine if they're able to get a fair wage and the basic needs.

The billionaires have successfully weaponized xenophobia and racism against the masses.

Anti-immigrantion has always been American tradition. They passed their first anti-immigration act in 1798, and America wasn't even 25 years old yet. Whenever something bad happens because of capitalism and imperialism, they simply blame immigrants. For a quick example, the great depression of 1929 happened because of Capitalism going untethered, but that didnt stop President Hoover from blaming Mexican immigrants, getting a bunch of them deported and creating the racist and xenophobic sentiments present today.

 

[NAMELESS]

About this


I would like to say, so far in my life, one of my achievements has been getting a very strong body, for example I used to do a bit over 1000 push ups a day, and if I warm up to it a bit I could start it up again, but it does take a lot of time so I don't really do it anymore


And when I look at the fitness culture online and discussions about it, I think it is pretty discouraging and I really dislike it


I think the way to get better at these things is to lift each other up, not to treat ourselves as superior to others or to put others down, or to refuse to lift others up

A 1000 pushup is a feat. You into calisthenics?

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Anti-immigrantion has always been American tradition. They passed their first anti-immigration act in 1798, and America wasn't even 25 years old yet. Whenever something bad happens because of capitalism and imperialism, they simply blame immigrants. For a quick example, the great depression of 1929 happened because of Capitalism going untethered, but that didnt stop President Hoover from blaming Mexican immigrants, getting a bunch of them deported and creating the racist and xenophobic sentiments present today.

I know this isn't new. But there's been a shift in the last decade. Not long ago, the American public had a very good perception of immigration.

the massive right wing propaganda effort of the last two decades is finally yielding results. Gen Z males are a bunch of incel morons, and now we treat politicians as messianic figures.

 

[Blax Blah]

I do all those things.
I cook my meals, have my family and pirate whatever I can. But it's just me, no impact on the wider world.

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Billionaires are the enemy, and unregulated/pseudo-regulated immigration is ONE OF the weapons

Well I would just hope you keep out hope and don't throw immigrants under the bus, we'll see how things go, I have high hopes and I'm going to work towards them

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

There is no such thing as unregulated immigration. It's always regulated.



Since the end of the cold war, the left died and only "one way" has been embraced aka neoliberalism. Wether it's the traditional right or official left getting elected. The economic ideology was more or less equivalent.

I mean you sound confused. Do you know who Ronald Reagan and the Chicago school of economics are ?

Before neoliberalism was keynesian economics. Still capitalism but kinda left-leaning.



Out of context, it seems like Israelis are drying their towels before going at the beach

I am writing from my phone, if I am not clear I will reexplain.

1. Unregulated immigration exists, check NGO bringing immigrants in Europe who promptly disappear in the rackets of mafia/underground. Second example people coming with student visa and never leaving the US, or just fucking crossing the border. Thesr are two real documented and crystal clear cases of Unregulated immigration that the government talks a lot about but does nothing.
2. If you agree with me that there is no left nowadays (nor right) then we agree. The whole left/right system is a rigged joke where both parties have the same lobbyists and the same string pulled, being banks or systems like NATO/EU.

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Well I would just hope you keep out hope and don't throw immigrants under the bus, we'll see how things go, I have high hopes and I'm going to work towards them

I am not throwing immigrants under the bus.
I want that immigrants come as an added value, not as a weapon to use against the middle class tl push it even lower.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Evangelicals love Israel.

Imagine when they discover luther was anti-semitic

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Imagine when they discover luther was anti-semitic

Luther BECAME anti-semitic.
Anyway, the way Americans bend over backwards to suck israel cock is wild to me.
Literally a country on the other side of the world is their "strongest" ally.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I know this isn't new. But there's been a shift in the last decade. Not long ago, the American public had a very good perception of immigration.

the massive right wing propaganda effort of the last two decades is finally yielding results. Gen Z males are a bunch of incel morons, and now we treat politicians as messianic figures.

Gen Z males are very easily influenced because a lot of them are raised on the internet and keep stumbling upon right wing nonsense without anyone to tell them that shit is stupid. Look at Andrew Tate and his cronies for example.

 

[Etzel Andergast]

Evangelicals love Israel.

There is only old people, I'm dying