MangoSenpai

The Deicidal Avenger
Because it instills hatred, discrimination and negative stereotypes in their youth and these harmful beliefs continue to be passed down through the generations.
I'm sorry but I think that's completely ridiculous

A joke is a joke, it doesn't pass down values or teach youth to discriminate.

If you cannot seperate a joke from actual malice, then I'm sorry to say, but that's a you problem.
If someone is unaware of the negative connotation then it becomes an opportunity to educate. Do you know how often black people hear the word from other ethnic groups and don’t get offended by it depending on the context because they understand that people are a product of their environment? Black people don’t normally get upset with people saying it who are unaware that it’s offensive. Most of the time when they get upset, it’s over someone using it in a derogatory manner.
Nothing much to add, we pretty much align
In America, we stand to gain a lot by discussing race. Racism in America runs a lot deeper than most people can even fathom. It is the foundation of certain laws, beliefs and negative stereotypes. By discussing race, it allows us to never repeat the atrocities of this country and hopefully correct many many injustices carried out on us for hundreds of years, many of which are still felt to this very day. Black people are not responsible for racial divides in America. It’s due to the corrupt men in history who perpetuated ideas of superiority and dehumanization of anyone who wasn’t white.
I'm sure there's some truth to that, but this is a whole 'nother layer of historical and statistical data that I do not have nearly enough knowledge to argue or discuss.
 
I'm sorry but I think that's completely ridiculous

A joke is a joke, it doesn't pass down values or teach youth to discriminate.

If you cannot seperate a joke from actual malice, then I'm sorry to say, but that's a you problem.
It depends on the nature of the joke. Someone said a joke about black people liking fried chicken and watermelon or being good at basketball? No one really cares. Another person made a joke about black children being used as alligator bait, hanging ni**ers from trees or how black people have low IQ? Those are absolutely malicious jokes born of prejudice. Do you not believe jokes can be malicious in nature?
 

MangoSenpai

The Deicidal Avenger
It depends on the nature of the joke. Someone said a joke about black people liking fried chicken and watermelon or being good at basketball? No one really cares. Another person made a joke about black children being used as alligator bait, hanging ni**ers from trees or how black people have low IQ? Those are absolutely malicious jokes born of prejudice. Do you not believe jokes can be malicious in nature?
Well, I don't classify that as a joke, that is clearly just harrasment or bullying.

A joke is by nature meant to be light hearted and humorous.

If you are "joking" about something to make fun of and shame others, then it's no longer a joke. It's bullying
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A joke that didn't land, or was in bad taste is still a joke - the intent was harmless but was not well received
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Rising political assassinations regardless of which political ideology reflect much deeper issues

You see some celebrating and some mourning - reflection of how much politically fractured society is becoming.

Man with such precision to snipe (professional work no doubt) was able to climb on the roof of one of the building of University campus without being detected at all. Schools and Universities are becoming more of a place to fear than to learn



Erosion of trust in institutions and decline in the quality of civil discourse are never the good signs anyway.

And, last but not the least, assassination of such level might result into more crackdown....


Well, Idk who kirk was ...just watched few of his videos but regardless of his ideology, this is undoubtedly an unfortunate incident.... RIP kirk
 
I disagree about Brazil. I'm here and I can say it was pretty effective.
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Exactly.
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I take that back. Saw another video from much closer. He instantly died and it was horrible
Long term Lula is doing good for your country , trump wont stay forever lol.

Trump wants his buddy Bolsanaro to escape political persecution .
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Rising political assassinations regardless of which political ideology reflect much deeper issues

You see some celebrating and some mourning - reflection of how much politically fractured society is becoming.

Man with such precision to snipe (professional work no doubt) was able to climb on the roof of one of the building of University campus without being detected at all. Schools and Universities are becoming more of a place to fear than to learn



Erosion of trust in institutions and decline in the quality of civil discourse are never the good signs anyway.

And, last but not the least, assassination of such level might result into more crackdown....


Well, Idk who kirk was ...just watched few of his videos but regardless of his ideology, this is undoubtedly an unfortunate incident.... RIP kirk
He was recently getting traction , it seems he was pro gun lobby guy its sad end for him . I heard he has young family , i dont think its good to celebrate a death .
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Long term Lula is doing good for your country , trump wont stay forever lol.

Trump wants his buddy Bolsanaro to escape political persecution .
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He was recently getting traction , it seems he was pro gun lobby guy its sad end for him . I heard he has young family , i dont think its good to celebrate a death .
You can be anti-gun or pro gun lobbyist

Point here is he was expressing his opinions.

If one disagree with his opinions, then engage in debate. Criticize him or silence him through counter arguments.

But silencing him or anyone through violence or suppression for speaking their minds only reflects people fear what they have to say.
 
You can be anti-gun or pro gun lobbyist

Point here is he was expressing his opinions.

If one disagree with his opinions, then engage in debate. Criticize him or silence him through counter arguments.

But silencing him or anyone through violence or suppression for speaking their minds only reflects people fear what they have to say.
Agreed .

There are people worse than him but he wanted healthy debate .

I feel it really touched far left lobby and rubbed them bad way . I think Americans will know it better the politics is divided there is no middle ground .
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
Also, fascists being afraid is good, they should cower in fear at the thought of going public with their views or making any act in accordance with their worldview
Do you understand that the opposite team can say the exact same thing to justify anything they want ?

That any far right guy can say it’s fair game to make lefties or wokes (in their mind) cower in fear.

And you continue on that path you can justify almost any act of violence.

Yeah things people say can create violence for other people. Saying things isn’t neutral at all I agree. Saying gay people are a problèm or being an ultra anti abortion create risks and danger for those people, in real life. Yes.

But the opposite team can think the same, that the left speech create real danger for their kids, in real life.

There is violence and real life consequences in speeches.

but if you allow people to use violence to fight the ideas you’re against It’s the end. No more democracy.

Its fucking hard, democracy is a long and exhausting way to walk on and the US system is bullshit in some ways but killing or assaulting people isn’t the right way at all. It won’t make you right and won’t at all make the opposite team cower in fear, they will just radicalize more and use the same violence (if they didn’t use it beforehand too).
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Self defense is good, evil not being spread is good, violence against oppressors is self defense
You can justify anything with those two lines. Everyone sees evil where he wants to see it
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
Imagine making these arguments for slave owners or for Hitler

The far right wants violence, opression is violence against the opressed, violence against the opressors is self defense
lol I knew the Hitler argument would come

You kill Hitler and so what ? You think you did stop everything from happening ? Maybe, maybe not

I guess you want to kill all the Hitler supporters too, all the people who cheered for him

where do you stop ?

and more importantly : who is doing the killing ? You with your own authority and motive and own view of what is good or evil ? Or an organized state, who was elected etc ? An army ?

Do you think the left side or the good side won anything yesterday killing Kirk ?

and everyone isn’t Hitler, and even Hitler wasn’t Hitler before becoming Hitler.

at what moment in his life it became fair game to kill his ass ?

In every country, every time even in time of peace you have people having bad stances or stances you would think dangerous. You think it’s fair game to kill them ?

It’s fair to kill every NRA apologist ? Any anti abortion guy ? If he becomes a bit famous then it’s okay to axe him ? What is the level of fame and influence you need to have for it to be fair game ? USA has hadwhite supremacist like forever, it’s fair game to kill them all ?

And again : you will decide ?

A state needs to be strong enough to organize the debate without any violence, to make things clear what speech and what act is acceptable or not. And to punish according to the law that was voted those who crossed the line.

Not me, not you, and not the guy who shot Kirk yesterday afternoon.

I know it’s more complicated than that and no democracy is perfect at all, and they all have so many flaws that indeed create violence. But to answer to that violence by violence in our kind of system isn’t the right way at all.
 
You gave me a good laugh. In truth, you idiots are fragile. Cowards in hiding, only brave enough to speak up for your beliefs now that you have a voice on the global stage in the form of that orange clown. Emboldened by him. Martyr my ass. He'll go down in history being frowned upon by society just like the Nazis, the Confederates and every other failed white supremacy movement. You're just afraid of the changing tides. You insecure little fucks can't even comprehend that even within your own circles half of them view you low lives with disgust and contempt.
Oh and no one played the race victim card on your stupid ass. You spoke out of your ass about something you have no clue about got burned. That's your own fault that you didn't understand the meaning of a word within someone else's own community. Then you threw a temper tantrum and "quit the forum" over it. You're a pathetic snowflake and you should have stayed gone.
Calling people racist for calling out manners is pulling the race victim card in my book. I didn't quit shit. I took a break to focus on personal shit. I do this every year. The way you people handle yourselves in these situations shows who is a snowflake. You guys always gang on people too. 1v1 you either end up banned or having a stroke.

How retarded does one have to be to think "its no wonder you guys get discriminated against" for using their own word that has a positive connotation amongst themselves in their community? Just admit that you're absolutely full of shit and have no clue what you're talking about.
In Brazil, funk culture is pretty similar to rap culture in the content of their lyrics. They both go on about the hardships of suburban life and glorify the criminal life. If you are going to sell yourself as a "gangsta," it's no wonder people will scorn you.

Btw I swear he supposedly apologized for that when it happened, just to go back on it immediately.
Ofc, i did, you pulled the raced card on me.

Boohoo. It's on the same level of a woman saying "I'm a bad bitch".
You know damn well I'm not saying it to be racist towards my self. There's a such thing as people changing terms over time.
I know you didn't, and that was never the point. The problem is what it is associated with and how it makes you look. I don't need to repeat the other word I used. I would like my sister, nor do i look with good eyes women that refer to themselves like that either.

I always find it weird as a "foreigner" to see them saying this word constantly for talking to each other, in rap lyrics, etc but threw a temper tantrum if some people of whatever group say it.

that's so childish. but you're right, it just shouldn't be said
If they saw it as a positive thing, they wouldn't get mad when other people use it.

no doubt having another nervous breakdown. See ya pussy.
Nope, slept like a baby.

Leftism has always existed, just like rightism. Just not with that branding.

>Leftism is an extention of the will to create a better world with the knowledge of the world.
>Rightism is an extention of the will to create a better world without the knowledge the world.
Yeah yeah, leftism=sainthood, and conservatism is the devil incarnate. Hypocrite.

Did Nameless say he’s leaving? I have great empathy for him getting dunked on all night…he could have spent it with his family and *snort* friends, maybe even *stifled chuckle* his girlfriend, but instead, he decided to be a fascist rectal opening on an anime forum for our pleasure :BigW:
Some people need to wake up early to get shit done.

It’s pretty obvious tbh that Trump orchestrated this to distract from him being outed as a child fucker
You people are genius.

I mean I hope he's not in hell
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Dude I don't know though, we don't need people getting shot, we need organisations for workers power
Dude, you are the one left-wing guy in here that I don't see as malicious. Don't fall fall for their lies. They didn't post a single video of Charlie saying these things. Don't get me wrong, he could have said it. By the way, I don't trust these guys. Their words are worthless. Compulsive liars, all of them. Some post above us is already saying Trump is the actual murderer.

Long term Lula is doing good for your country , trump wont stay forever lol.

Trump wants his buddy Bolsanaro to escape political persecution .
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He was recently getting traction , it seems he was pro gun lobby guy its sad end for him . I heard he has young family , i dont think its good to celebrate a death .
Lula isn't doing any good, and he never did. He made public debt explode in a couple of months after getting elected. Jair actually did pay our debt and left money in the bank for him.

Do you understand that the opposite team can say the exact same thing to justify anything they want ?

That any far right guy can say it’s fair game to make lefties or wokes (in their mind) cower in fear.

And you continue on that path you can justify almost any act of violence.

Yeah things people say can create violence for other people. Saying things isn’t neutral at all I agree. Saying gay people are a problèm or being an ultra anti abortion create risks and danger for those people, in real life. Yes.

But the opposite team can think the same, that the left speech create real danger for their kids, in real life.

There is violence and real life consequences in speeches.

but if you allow people to use violence to fight the ideas you’re against It’s the end. No more democracy.

Its fucking hard, democracy is a long and exhausting way to walk on and the US system is bullshit in some ways but killing or assaulting people isn’t the right way at all. It won’t make you right and won’t at all make the opposite team cower in fear, they will just radicalize more and use the same violence (if they didn’t use it beforehand too).
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You can justify anything with those two lines. Everyone sees evil where he wants to see it
The problem is that their constitution grants unrestricted free speech. Some speeches radicalize people. Look at what what ISIS does to recruit people.

I am seeing lot of celebration in deaths .

Look for some people Kirk will be matyr . His movement will grow bigger and his views will be held high .
Easy for Trump to manipulate his voters saying he was right about 2nd amendment .

Its nuts if people are praising the killer . He was open to debate he never harmed anyone .
If you dig a little into the history of this political movement, you will understand it's actually within character for them to act like this. I recommend The Black Book of Communism.
 
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C4N,Solis,Jew,Toby and a couple of others are all rotten. This is standard for people on that political spectrum.
I'm not going to make a blanket statement about an entire group - but that quote is GRIM.

It's rare that I feel genuine disgust these days, but this is a mask-off kind of statement. It isn't like Kirk was Hitler. He was just a conservative commentator who had some strong views. He didn't have any power to enact his ideology.

Be better.
 
I'm not going to make a blanket statement about an entire group - but that quote is GRIM.

It's rare that I feel genuine disgust these days, but this is a mask-off kind of statement. It isn't like Kirk was Hitler. He was just a conservative commentator who had some strong views. He didn't have any power to enact his ideology.

Be better.
Solis posts guillotine memes frequently. C4N is saying Kirk is a fascist that brought this down on himself. Jew said similar things and also said he opened up a champagne bottle, and Toby didn't say shit, but we know that deep down he is finding all of this very amusing. These people have never fooled me. In Brazil, the same guys that preach love, democracy, and equality are the ones that started a terrorist campaign to overthrow democracy and turn Brazil into a giant Cuba back in the 60s.
 
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