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really now?
Are we really going to go down this route? What do we stand to gain from this?
I'm obviously missing some context here since you're saying he's dehumanizing a whole race of people, which if he does - I do not support or condone in any way shape or form.
Now you did kind of say it yourself, but a word only has the meaning that you give it. If you use a word with the intent and purpose of discriminating, dehumanizing, belittling or otherwise malicious intentions - then obviously that is a problem that needs to be adressed
However, while I'm speaking with some conjectures due to my ignorance of the full picture, when you have a very prominent culture in an increasingly more popular genre of music propagating the usage og the word N*g*a - it is very hard to make the claim that this word bears any malicious or otherwise discriminatory intent or association.
Make no mistake, the hard R is without a doubt a word used with malicious intent in the vast majority of cases, so I'm not making an argument there.
But when rappers use the word synonymous with "brother", then it is in my eyes, illogical to then apply some archaic meaning and historical context to the word just to fabricate racism where there was none to begin with.
In my personal opinion, I think the demand for outrage against racism far outweights the actual amount of racists out there.
But honestly, it is silly in my opinion to even base a discussion around the color of someone's skin to begin with.
Morgan Freeman said it the best;
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Well, what is obvious here in this world?
Person X looks obviously guilty to person Y
Person Y looks obviously guilty to person X
Not saying it is impossible, especially with how poorly the Trump admin handled the whole epstein files ordeal.
But Trump is not the only who would have reason to pull such a stunt, so I'll see how things unfolds
Are we really going to go down this route? What do we stand to gain from this?
I'm obviously missing some context here since you're saying he's dehumanizing a whole race of people, which if he does - I do not support or condone in any way shape or form.
Now you did kind of say it yourself, but a word only has the meaning that you give it. If you use a word with the intent and purpose of discriminating, dehumanizing, belittling or otherwise malicious intentions - then obviously that is a problem that needs to be adressed
However, while I'm speaking with some conjectures due to my ignorance of the full picture, when you have a very prominent culture in an increasingly more popular genre of music propagating the usage og the word N*g*a - it is very hard to make the claim that this word bears any malicious or otherwise discriminatory intent or association.
Make no mistake, the hard R is without a doubt a word used with malicious intent in the vast majority of cases, so I'm not making an argument there.
But when rappers use the word synonymous with "brother", then it is in my eyes, illogical to then apply some archaic meaning and historical context to the word just to fabricate racism where there was none to begin with.
In my personal opinion, I think the demand for outrage against racism far outweights the actual amount of racists out there.
But honestly, it is silly in my opinion to even base a discussion around the color of someone's skin to begin with.
Morgan Freeman said it the best;
Well, what is obvious here in this world?
Person X looks obviously guilty to person Y
Person Y looks obviously guilty to person X
Not saying it is impossible, especially with how poorly the Trump admin handled the whole epstein files ordeal.
But Trump is not the only who would have reason to pull such a stunt, so I'll see how things unfolds
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Clearly you’re not from the US so you’re excused. When it comes to racist white Americans (not ALL white Americans) and even some other racist people from different races, there often isn’t any distinction between “ni**er” and “ni**a”. “Ni**a” only became an alternative way to say the word due to the southern white vernacular. Anyone who uses either variation to dehumanize anyone shouldn’t be saying it period.
I respectfully disagree. A lot of American racism is normalized behind closed doors. Even the ones who aren’t racist are implicit when they don’t call out their family members for these beliefs.
I’m well aware of Morgan freeman’s stance and I whole heartedly disagree with him. Sticking your head in the sand is not a solution to the issue.
For the record I’m not talking about white people as a whole, I’m referring to the snowflakes among them. I’ve met plenty of white people who are unquestionably good people. I’m not saying the user I quoted is dehumanizing anyone. I’m merely explaining to them why we, as they put it, “throw temper tantrums” over other groups using the word.
I respectfully disagree. A lot of American racism is normalized behind closed doors. Even the ones who aren’t racist are implicit when they don’t call out their family members for these beliefs.
I’m well aware of Morgan freeman’s stance and I whole heartedly disagree with him. Sticking your head in the sand is not a solution to the issue.
For the record I’m not talking about white people as a whole, I’m referring to the snowflakes among them. I’ve met plenty of white people who are unquestionably good people. I’m not saying the user I quoted is dehumanizing anyone. I’m merely explaining to them why we, as they put it, “throw temper tantrums” over other groups using the word.
Ugh, I feel like a villain when I want to point out the fact that the first line is an allegation based off a news article.
But even if true, that's his opinion - nobody's forced to agree (I don't either (specifically on the gay marriage part))
The second has no source as to where and when this was said, only a year which is not a credible source
third and last similar to first, but honestly this is also just an opinion.
Nobody is saying he was a saint, it's not about that.
It doesn't really matter what it is that he believes. The problem is that someone was shot for simply sharing his freedom of expressing himself and his opinions.
it sets a terrible predecent
But even if true, that's his opinion - nobody's forced to agree (I don't either (specifically on the gay marriage part))
The second has no source as to where and when this was said, only a year which is not a credible source
third and last similar to first, but honestly this is also just an opinion.
Nobody is saying he was a saint, it's not about that.
It doesn't really matter what it is that he believes. The problem is that someone was shot for simply sharing his freedom of expressing himself and his opinions.
it sets a terrible predecent
They do have sources.
https://religionnews.com/2024/11/01...t-in-spiritual-warfare-on-christian-campuses/
https://www.dailycardinal.com/artic...rove-me-wrong-in-provocative-uw-madison-visit
https://www.mediamatters.org/charli...ng-care-entire-country-donald-trump-needs-run
https://americanmind.org/salvo/on-sexual-anarchy/
But even if these were somehow lies, he's still said TONS of horrible things about people over the years.
Also, I'm not exactly celebrating his death nor am I saying he deserved to die, but I just don't feel any empathy for him. And I think that's fair as:
One: He himself said empathy isn't a real thing.
Two: He also said gun violence is a necessary evil for the 2nd amendment to remain.
So he had all these jokes about his death coming.
https://religionnews.com/2024/11/01...t-in-spiritual-warfare-on-christian-campuses/
https://www.dailycardinal.com/artic...rove-me-wrong-in-provocative-uw-madison-visit
https://www.mediamatters.org/charli...ng-care-entire-country-donald-trump-needs-run
https://americanmind.org/salvo/on-sexual-anarchy/
But even if these were somehow lies, he's still said TONS of horrible things about people over the years.
Also, I'm not exactly celebrating his death nor am I saying he deserved to die, but I just don't feel any empathy for him. And I think that's fair as:
One: He himself said empathy isn't a real thing.
Two: He also said gun violence is a necessary evil for the 2nd amendment to remain.
So he had all these jokes about his death coming.
Well, you're correct in the conclusion that I am not from the US, so I do not have the same frame of reference that you have.
But at least we can agree that whatever it is, when you use a word with the intent to discriminate against someone based on the color of their skin or other arbitrary features then it's a problem.
But riddle me this, what harm does it do that some uncle somewhere is cracking a racist joke behind closed doors?
Obviously, I'm neither black nor american so I can't use my lived experience as a credible measuring stick, but I've encountered next to no really truly racist people. They exist without a doubt, and they will never cease to exist and there's no two ways about it.
However, I think is a bit on the nose to say that someone that uses a word, maybe unaware of it's negative connotations, is racist - when actual racists will be sure to let you know that you're inferior and disgusting to them. These are people that are genuinely uncomfortable to be around.
But again, I'll not stand here and pretend that I know how it is on the ground over there. But I do really believe that there aren't as many true racists out there as you make it out to be. I'll leave it at that though.
But why?
What do you actually stand to gain from discussing race?
You're only emphazising that you are a person with a specific color of skin, which then leads to a categorical seperation of people.
Why can't people be people, and their features - their features?
But at least we can agree that whatever it is, when you use a word with the intent to discriminate against someone based on the color of their skin or other arbitrary features then it's a problem.
But riddle me this, what harm does it do that some uncle somewhere is cracking a racist joke behind closed doors?
Obviously, I'm neither black nor american so I can't use my lived experience as a credible measuring stick, but I've encountered next to no really truly racist people. They exist without a doubt, and they will never cease to exist and there's no two ways about it.
However, I think is a bit on the nose to say that someone that uses a word, maybe unaware of it's negative connotations, is racist - when actual racists will be sure to let you know that you're inferior and disgusting to them. These are people that are genuinely uncomfortable to be around.
But again, I'll not stand here and pretend that I know how it is on the ground over there. But I do really believe that there aren't as many true racists out there as you make it out to be. I'll leave it at that though.
But why?
What do you actually stand to gain from discussing race?
You're only emphazising that you are a person with a specific color of skin, which then leads to a categorical seperation of people.
Why can't people be people, and their features - their features?
I'm not out to defend the guy or his beliefs, you're obviously entitled to your own opinion about the guy.
But I do find it quite troubling that a public speaker gets assassinated in broad daylight, and people are dismissing and mocking his death.
I obviously don't know everything the guy stands for, and I honestly do not care - as long as it's not actual calls to violence or discrimination etc.
Nobody should get shot for using their right to free speech.
But I do find it quite troubling that a public speaker gets assassinated in broad daylight, and people are dismissing and mocking his death.
I obviously don't know everything the guy stands for, and I honestly do not care - as long as it's not actual calls to violence or discrimination etc.
Nobody should get shot for using their right to free speech.
https://x.com/ali_naka/status/1965941720845267408
Nevermind
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Some of his views:
https://x.com/ali_naka/status/1965941720845267408
https://x.com/AnarkYouTube/status/1965970615543996894
Nevermind
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Some of his views:
https://x.com/ali_naka/status/1965941720845267408
https://x.com/AnarkYouTube/status/1965970615543996894
Ok, I'm sorry but this isn't that bad in my opinion.
I wanna see the whole context to this, I don't really fall for these short clips which are often taken out of context in order to illicit an emotional response. I'll see if I can find the whole thing
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Here's the full context, it's really not nearly as bad as the clip would have you believe.
It was actually a quite interesting 10 minutes of a listen
I wanna see the whole context to this, I don't really fall for these short clips which are often taken out of context in order to illicit an emotional response. I'll see if I can find the whole thing
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Here's the full context, it's really not nearly as bad as the clip would have you believe.
It was actually a quite interesting 10 minutes of a listen
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Because it instills hatred, discrimination and negative stereotypes in their youth and these harmful beliefs continue to be passed down through the generations.
If someone is unaware of the negative connotation then it becomes an opportunity to educate. Do you know how often black people hear the word from other ethnic groups and don’t get offended by it depending on the context because they understand that people are a product of their environment? Black people don’t normally get upset with people saying it who are unaware that it’s offensive. Most of the time when they get upset, it’s over someone using it in a derogatory manner.
In America, we stand to gain a lot by discussing race. Racism in America runs a lot deeper than most people can even fathom. It is the foundation of certain laws, beliefs and negative stereotypes. By discussing race, it allows us to never repeat the atrocities of this country and hopefully correct many many injustices carried out on us for hundreds of years, many of which are still felt to this very day. Black people are not responsible for racial divides in America. It’s due to the corrupt men in history who perpetuated ideas of superiority and dehumanization of anyone who wasn’t white.
If someone is unaware of the negative connotation then it becomes an opportunity to educate. Do you know how often black people hear the word from other ethnic groups and don’t get offended by it depending on the context because they understand that people are a product of their environment? Black people don’t normally get upset with people saying it who are unaware that it’s offensive. Most of the time when they get upset, it’s over someone using it in a derogatory manner.
In America, we stand to gain a lot by discussing race. Racism in America runs a lot deeper than most people can even fathom. It is the foundation of certain laws, beliefs and negative stereotypes. By discussing race, it allows us to never repeat the atrocities of this country and hopefully correct many many injustices carried out on us for hundreds of years, many of which are still felt to this very day. Black people are not responsible for racial divides in America. It’s due to the corrupt men in history who perpetuated ideas of superiority and dehumanization of anyone who wasn’t white.