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One of the criteria of leftism is being able to listen when an another leftist with a more materialist and ethical understanding of a subject makes a remark about a problem linked to a domination system that they are fighting and they are experiencing in their very flesh.
What you do is not leftism, it's basic rejection and denial. Hence why I can't put you on my side since you refuse to understand that your behavior can have consequences on your allies.
You take a political remark for a personnal attack. Which is what liberals and other people on the right side of the spectrum tend to do when they are triggered by political critics.
And like I explained to Blax, you are consistantly proving me why I consider you a liberal instead of a leftist. You have good intention and I believe you are a nice person, but you can't accept the fact that people on your left have more ethical arguments than yourself.
What you do is not leftism, it's basic rejection and denial. Hence why I can't put you on my side since you refuse to understand that your behavior can have consequences on your allies.
You take a political remark for a personnal attack. Which is what liberals and other people on the right side of the spectrum tend to do when they are triggered by political critics.
And like I explained to Blax, you are consistantly proving me why I consider you a liberal instead of a leftist. You have good intention and I believe you are a nice person, but you can't accept the fact that people on your left have more ethical arguments than yourself.
Oh yeah, Charlie Kirk was a Nazi killing people out there. Is dehumanization allowed in here, guys? @AL sama @TheAncientCenturion @Uncle Van Sounds like, to me, this is an apologism for murder. I know nothing will be done about it. One of you here has said some bad shit about that CEO guy too. This is the same situation all over again. @RayanOO That CEO guy was just working. What is your take on what happened to him?
I can accept it. But I'm not having this conversation with someone who keeps trying to label me ableist simply because I said a person with mental issues should go to an institution dedicated to helping those people with mental issues get on the right track in life.
You missed the point entirely by assuming I'm trying to argue that it's okay to murder him. I'm just arguing it's okay to not feel sympathy over his death.
Again he himself said his death was necessary for the 2nd amendment. HE said that, NOT me.
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You missed the point entirely by assuming I'm trying to argue that it's okay to murder him. I'm just arguing it's okay to not feel sympathy over his death.
Again he himself said his death was necessary for the 2nd amendment. HE said that, NOT me.
This is called a rethorical argument.
If you are gonna bring the family of a fascist guy to critic people who don't shed tears on his death, then you have to do it also when you don't shed tears to fascist or people you hate who had families.
I'm not trying to label you.
I never said "you are ableist" I said "what you said was ableist" or "you are being ableist" at best. Usually I will wait a few occurences of a pattern to do that with someone. Unless it's something very horrible and in this case I will allow myself to do it.
But what you did was not that horrible so I'm just making you a remark. Sadly, you took it as a personnal attack.
Now... if you keep saying it while not understanding why I make a remark despite me telling you that it is not ok.. we will have a problem. But you won't understand it unless I explain it to you so calm down, and let me explain it to you. No one i angry here but you.
If you are gonna bring the family of a fascist guy to critic people who don't shed tears on his death, then you have to do it also when you don't shed tears to fascist or people you hate who had families.
I'm not trying to label you.
I never said "you are ableist" I said "what you said was ableist" or "you are being ableist" at best. Usually I will wait a few occurences of a pattern to do that with someone. Unless it's something very horrible and in this case I will allow myself to do it.
But what you did was not that horrible so I'm just making you a remark. Sadly, you took it as a personnal attack.
Now... if you keep saying it while not understanding why I make a remark despite me telling you that it is not ok.. we will have a problem. But you won't understand it unless I explain it to you so calm down, and let me explain it to you. No one i angry here but you.
It was indeed a professional hit - 200 yards sniping with winds in play and hitting the neck with such precision with one bullet fired (as far as I know)
Perhaps panic kicked in and he made slips.
It seems he dropped out from your Assassin institution before completing the full course of "how to become a clean assassin"
Perhaps panic kicked in and he made slips.
It seems he dropped out from your Assassin institution before completing the full course of "how to become a clean assassin"
If I say "what you said was racist" does that mean you're not racist yourself?
What you say typically reflects what you believe. If you see a white dude running his mouth about how black people only eat chicken and kool aid, chances are you're very likely to just label that dude a racist off the rip.
With what, Logiko being a disingenuous asshat?
It's definitely not my first rodeo with him
What you say typically reflects what you believe. If you see a white dude running his mouth about how black people only eat chicken and kool aid, chances are you're very likely to just label that dude a racist off the rip.
With what, Logiko being a disingenuous asshat?
It's definitely not my first rodeo with him
Oh if he's not already out of the country by now he's a moron 
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Logiko the other day
"I hate white people"
"I understand" he replies
But if someone said they hate other group or minority he lose his shit
"I hate white people"
"I understand" he replies
But if someone said they hate other group or minority he lose his shit
That's my point. I can only see a switch in their tone. Instead of saying "Fuck black people, you are slaves, you have no rights" they are saying "Believe me, I'm on your side, you are a sub-race therefore you need extra rights, I will raise minimum wage so you can keep yourself where you belong and you vote for me or you will lost your benefits"
I'm not going to comment on the Kirk situation. I do not think he needed to die and it goes without saying that simply killing people isn't the solution. I also am not a bleeding heart and don't feel bad for him as I have my own criticisms towards him from an actual rightwing perspective (he was not right wing.)