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Reborn

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
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This is how I see it....

Blame game is going on without anyone owning up for their own actions. Everyone is pointing fingers at others.

Left is blaming right, right is blaming left but thing is both are to be blamed.

You can never clap from one hand.

Both have flamed the fire at their own convenience to suit their agenda.

And, both are willingly carrying the seed of hatred in form of tit for tat.
 
HerreraIsBack

HerreraIsBack

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Reborn said:
This is how I see it....

Blame game is going on without anyone owning up for their own actions. Everyone is pointing fingers at others.

Left is blaming right, right is blaming left but thing is both are to be blamed.

You can never clap from one hand.

Both have flamed the fire at their own convenience to suit their agenda.

And, both are willingly carrying the seed of hatred in form of tit for tat.
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To me the real problem is blaming groups and not individuals.
 
Logiko

Logiko

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Akai2 said:
Bro what did the guy do to make y'all this mad 😭😭😭

Too busy to deep dive and separate fact from bullshit right now, so I figured I’d ask the Politics thread legends for a quick TL;DR. I’ll probably check back in 8–9 hours.
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Participated in making society more fascist and in the invisibilization of the Genocide in Gaza.
 
Zenos7

Zenos7

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Jew D. Boy said:
I mean, I can find plenty of other examples of right-wing politicians and pundits making light of murdered minorities and registered Democrats if you want, it really doesn’t take a lot of time or effort to demonstrate their utter lack of self-control…sounds like we’re both judging groups of people based on the information we specifically seek out, you might wanna put down that stone while we’re in this glass house.
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I mean, i am not defending anyone of them or claiming they arent doing it. And i immediately reacted the same way on that laura loomer shit you shared, so i dont feel like im with you in that glass house, im definitely outside of it.

:kayneshrug:
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Reborn said:
This is how I see it....

Blame game is going on without anyone owning up for their own actions. Everyone is pointing fingers at others.

Left is blaming right, right is blaming left but thing is both are to be blamed.

You can never clap from one hand.

Both have flamed the fire at their own convenience to suit their agenda.

And, both are willingly carrying the seed of hatred in form of tit for tat.
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and if you are outside of this us vs them bubble and criticize either, the other side will foam from their mouths and get at your throat.
 
Zenos7

Zenos7

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Jew D. Boy said:
@Zenos7 I know they’re not singing songs so you might not find them offensive, but…
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2025/09...s-but-demand-people-be-sad-over-charlie-kirk/

https://www.advocate.com/politics/charlie-kirk-anti-lgbtq-quotes#rebelltitem8

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Its not about the singing but the celebration. Kirks statement about stoning gays is making me kinda speechless right now. fucking inhuman. Not even celebrating their deaths, but legit calling for it. I guess the near absolute freedom of speech you guys got is a blessing and a curse at the same fuckin time. i still think people celebrating his death are nutjobs though. him also being one doesnt take that away. but the right wing cancel culture now in response to that is way beyond pathetic, as much of a mask off moment for them. Tough time holding out until the next election. . .
 
HerreraIsBack

HerreraIsBack

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Akai2 said:
Me checking news: "Charlie Kirk assassinated at a University event in Utah" *Sees video of shot right to the jugular*

Me, not knowing who this guy is: "That's horrific, I pray for his family and hope they bring the shooter to justice" *carries on with my day*

Literally my entire timeline when I come back a few hours later:
http://imgur.com/a/pkY71Kz

Bro what did the guy do to make y'all this mad 😭😭😭

Too busy to deep dive and separate fact from bullshit right now, so I figured I’d ask the Politics thread legends for a quick TL;DR. I’ll probably check back in 8–9 hours.
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The left can't handle freedom of speech otherwise they will start to have real arguments and logics and they don't.
 
Zenos7

Zenos7

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Logiko said:
Not taking side when oppression is perpetuated or promoted is taking side.
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you are talking about taking sides with specific situations. im talking about being part of either side generally. Im not american, so i wont ever be a republican or a democrat. Im free to criticize either of them or their supporters for whatever reason. doesnt make me a supporter of the other side, the world isnt black and white my guy.
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HerreraIsBack said:
The left can't handle freedom of speech otherwise they will start to have real arguments and logics and they don't.
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its very apparent the right cant handle it either with their pathetic cancel culture getting people fired over online remarks about charlie kirk. big pile of pussies that pretend to be strong while being weak as shit
 
Ravagerblade

Ravagerblade

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Zenos7 said:
Its not about the singing but the celebration. Kirks statement about stoning gays is making me kinda speechless right now. fucking inhuman. Not even celebrating their deaths, but legit calling for it. I guess the near absolute freedom of speech you guys got is a blessing and a curse at the same fuckin time. i still think people celebrating his death are nutjobs though. him also being one doesnt take that away. but the right wing cancel culture now in response to that is way beyond pathetic, as much of a mask off moment for them. Tough time holding out until the next election. . .
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Be sure to consider the Context. This is nothing more than taking soundbites.
He had several people who he knew and hanged out with that were Gay, Lesbian.
Rubin, Jillian Micheals.
Jillian Michaels recalls Charlie Kirk's impact on her 13-year-old son | Fox News
Charlie Kirk's BEST Advice to Gay College Student 👀🔥
 
Zenos7

Zenos7

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Logiko

Logiko

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Zenos7 said:
Im not american, so i wont ever be a republican or a democrat. Im free to criticize either of them or their supporters for whatever reason. doesnt make me a supporter of the other side, the world isnt black and white my guy.
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I think you are misstaking me here. Democrats and republicans are political party, not political sides. Both are on the right side (republican being farther on the right).

Not taking side means refusing to be politicized on the political spectrum. Which means staying depoliticized when being politicized is an ethical necessity in all types of scenario. as such, being neutral is being unethical and taking a side on the political spectrum. The side that will be unethical.

I don't know if this was you meant, but this is what it means to be neutral and not taking side in politics.
 
Uncle Van

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
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Reborn said:
This is how I see it....

Blame game is going on without anyone owning up for their own actions. Everyone is pointing fingers at others.

Left is blaming right, right is blaming left but thing is both are to be blamed.

You can never clap from one hand.

Both have flamed the fire at their own convenience to suit their agenda.

And, both are willingly carrying the seed of hatred in form of tit for tat.
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A bird needs 2 wings to fly. The left wing and right wing keep trying to fly in different directions and clip the other, increasing it's acceleration as it torpedoes to the ground. Or so the saying goes.
 
Mathias

Mathias

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Blax Blah said:
I would say it's right wing, either way it's bad
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DNC is kinda wide and at the moment they have a bit of progressive values too especially in societal issues like kinda in favour of LGBT, a bit of healthcare and not too much for guns. Not against genocides though. And mostly neoliberal.


Uncle Van said:
A bird needs 2 wings to fly. The left wing and right wing keep trying to fly in different directions and clip the other, increasing it's acceleration as it torpedoes to the ground. Or so the saying goes.
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I like comparisons because they quickly show their limits. For instance why is mankind compared to the wings of a flying chicken ?
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Blax Blah said:
It's funny that in leftist space even social democracy is sometimes considered right wing
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Because they have more than often betrayed their campaign promesses favouring neoliberal policies
 
Zenos7

Zenos7

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Ravagerblade said:
If you don't search the truth, you might fall for anything.
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sure, im aware some of the soundbites are out of context where you actually go and listen to what he is saying, its very different. But, talking about stoning gays and that being gods perfect law for dealing with homosexuals is fucking crazy, and still i dont know what kind of context makes that any less evil. Pointing to him being polite with a gay person at his QnA or being "friends" with a lesbian doesnt help in the slightest to be very honest. . . .
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Logiko said:
I think you are misstaking me here. Democrats and republicans are political party, not political sides. Both are on the right side (republican being farther on the right).

Not taking side means refusing to be politicized on the political spectrum. Which means staying depoliticized when being politicized is an ethical necessity in all types of scenario. as such, being neutral is being unethical and taking a side on the political spectrum. The side that will be unethical.

I don't know if this was you meant, but this is what it means to be neutral and not taking side in politics.
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Ok fair, i didnt mean it like that. But even still, left wingers can criticize other left wingers and vice versa.
 
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