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Because you act just like them - leeching from the state rather than trying to be self-sufficient.
We owe them nothing. Next.
Because they're not English, Scottish, Irish, or Welsh. They have no connection to this land, no loyalty, and have never paid into the systems designed to support our citizens. They are owed nothing, and if it were up to me, I'd rather they starve as a warning to everyone else who wishes to leech from us without having ancestral ties or historical payment into the system (for example, legitimate immigrants who built a life here and contributed can take from the system).
The British Empire ended slavery, and slavery existed in the middle-east before we arrived there.
No, you're entirely self-serving. Humans deserve nothing. It is by the grace of kind people that these luxuries are bestowed. My country, and many western countries, have these systems because of kindness, not entitlement. I wish to revoke this to those who are not of my people.
Yes, this means I also think you deserve nothing.
It also means I think I deserve nothing.
Your thoughts and what you think means nothing to me and has no factual basis. You argue from emotion.
So you accept you support systems that undermine national unity and solidarity, which in turn will erode and destroy people's cultures? You're advocating for the destruction of an identity.
Be honest. You want to reap the benefits of western culture whilst insulting it at the same time.
I don't want to quit because I love my culture. You admitted paragraphs back that you're happy to destroy your nation and bring about a new order. We are not the same.
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Logiko you have proven in your continued responses that you do not care about your culture and wholly support the erosion of our cultures in favour of some sort of amorphous blob, or the outsider's. You will never understand my perspective, nor do you want to understand. I'd respect you if you could at least see why people like me have their views, but as much as you claim you do, you can't. You're narrow-minded and overly-zealous. Ultimately, I think you preach kindness but it's a self-serving endeavour to maintain your own lifestyle.
I will not be entertaining your responses further unless you bring something of intellectual value to the table. I've wasted enough time on you.
I know. It's sad.
Can you explain this point, please?
We owe them nothing. Next.
Because they're not English, Scottish, Irish, or Welsh. They have no connection to this land, no loyalty, and have never paid into the systems designed to support our citizens. They are owed nothing, and if it were up to me, I'd rather they starve as a warning to everyone else who wishes to leech from us without having ancestral ties or historical payment into the system (for example, legitimate immigrants who built a life here and contributed can take from the system).
The British Empire ended slavery, and slavery existed in the middle-east before we arrived there.
No, you're entirely self-serving. Humans deserve nothing. It is by the grace of kind people that these luxuries are bestowed. My country, and many western countries, have these systems because of kindness, not entitlement. I wish to revoke this to those who are not of my people.
Yes, this means I also think you deserve nothing.
It also means I think I deserve nothing.
Your thoughts and what you think means nothing to me and has no factual basis. You argue from emotion.
So you accept you support systems that undermine national unity and solidarity, which in turn will erode and destroy people's cultures? You're advocating for the destruction of an identity.
Be honest. You want to reap the benefits of western culture whilst insulting it at the same time.
I don't want to quit because I love my culture. You admitted paragraphs back that you're happy to destroy your nation and bring about a new order. We are not the same.
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Logiko you have proven in your continued responses that you do not care about your culture and wholly support the erosion of our cultures in favour of some sort of amorphous blob, or the outsider's. You will never understand my perspective, nor do you want to understand. I'd respect you if you could at least see why people like me have their views, but as much as you claim you do, you can't. You're narrow-minded and overly-zealous. Ultimately, I think you preach kindness but it's a self-serving endeavour to maintain your own lifestyle.
I will not be entertaining your responses further unless you bring something of intellectual value to the table. I've wasted enough time on you.
I know. It's sad.
Can you explain this point, please?
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I also advocate for countries stripping bad actors and seditious individuals of citizenship. I'd actually consider people like Logiko prime targets for such a thing if they truly want to topple their nations by flooding them with strangers. Of course, there needs to be checks and balances there, with appeal procedures, but if you do not care about your state and want it to be destroyed, I think the state should have the right to cast you aside.
You might ask where they'd be sent. Well, for Logiko, he can be like his favourite people and get on the dingy. Maybe he can beg somewhere else to take him, maybe his beloved migrant's countries - see how welcoming they'll be.
You might ask where they'd be sent. Well, for Logiko, he can be like his favourite people and get on the dingy. Maybe he can beg somewhere else to take him, maybe his beloved migrant's countries - see how welcoming they'll be.
I think both the death penalty and life sentences need to be legal, but capital punishment needs to be dealt only to dangerous inmates that cannot be controlled and are an active threat to other inmates and prison staff. Some of them are just animals. They only stop killing when dead; this is my serious, non-troll take on this.
If you can confidently state you wouldn't entertain any of my views, I can only assume you are a diametric opposite of I.
The reality is, I am stricter on citizenship and immigration that I am almost any other issue. I've witnessed my country rapidly move towards a low-trust society over the course of my life, and people who live here know the reason.
I don't expect you to care for that. You have your own vested interests, and I respect that. But I likely won't agree.
I am not entirely against immigration. I do not pray for Japan's period of isolation. Heck, my wife is a foreigner. But there needs to be a line. I would not advocate for my people to try to unilaterally settle in your country and expect your citizens to pay for it. I feel the same about the reverse. Simple as.
The reality is, I am stricter on citizenship and immigration that I am almost any other issue. I've witnessed my country rapidly move towards a low-trust society over the course of my life, and people who live here know the reason.
I don't expect you to care for that. You have your own vested interests, and I respect that. But I likely won't agree.
I am not entirely against immigration. I do not pray for Japan's period of isolation. Heck, my wife is a foreigner. But there needs to be a line. I would not advocate for my people to try to unilaterally settle in your country and expect your citizens to pay for it. I feel the same about the reverse. Simple as.
