Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

Not really, what I am talking about is people making pocket countries inside the country they are in and live by its rules rather than the rules of the country they are in

You can have your own traditions ofc, but you shouldn't bring laws of another country to the country you are in. I'll give you an example

Here in Croatia bcs of Yugoslavia you have a lot of nationalities and religions living together in a relatively peaceful way (don't fuck with me, and i won't fuck with you). Orthodox Serbs living alongside Christian Croatians and Muslim Bosnians, and it works

When immigrant crisis came I was working as a volunteer at a camp, first and second wave were educated people, the brain drain Western Europe wanted, third and fourth wave were basically peasants, and they NEVER bothered to integrate in our country, in the places they settled they hard focused their own rules and regulations, we had cases of them assaulting "natives" bcs some girl wore shorts and some guy didn't wanna see it, shit like that, they never cared about rules and laws, they considered theirs better

Bcs of that vast vast majority were never allowed entry into the country

Is there a systemic issue or is this just some random cases ? Is there studies supporting a problem of integration or do you take a case for a generality here ?

Again, we are close to fascism.

Bringing your nation's background with you is what any normal human do. In France we tend to forget it but million of people are Bilingual (is that the right term ?) And I'm sorry but this should be praised.

It is just a starting point.

Yeah I'm sorry but I don't trust someone that spread far right rethoric all day long. I'll search for myself if I have the time and will.

if you cut down social aid you would see a lot more integration

No, you would just see more violence as there would be more poor and angry people.

What you are proposing is completely inhuman.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

West is as its peak and that won't change for a long time, only real player on the stage is China that is outside of Europe and North America

Chinas economy has slowed down dramatically. America is still the worlds sole super power.

 

[Tejas]

Is there a systemic issue or is this just some random cases ? Is there studies supporting a problem of integration or do you take a case for a generality here ?

Again, we are close to fascism.

Bringing your nation's background with you is what any normal human do. In France we tend to forget it but million of people are Bilingual (is that the right term ?) And I'm sorry but this should be praised.


Yeah I'm sorry but I don't trust someone that spread far right rethoric all day long. I'll search for myself if I have the time and will.



No, you would just see more violence as there would be more poor and angry people.

What you are proposing is completely inhuman.

DOnt trust. Just read and research and try to dispute . Till you get informed enough to develop your own perspective.

Otherwise you are just turning a blind eye to the suffering of a billion people since a millenium

 

[Soyz]

Chinas economy has slowed down dramatically. America is still the worlds sole super power.

Its because they are getting ready to invade taiwan soon.

 

[Adam 🍎]

there a systemic issue or is this just some random cases ?

Systematic, mostly men in Immigrants camps now, fuckers even protested and put Children first as human shield between them and police

Bringing your nation's background with you is what any normal human do. In France we tend to forget it but million of people are Bilingual (is that the right term ?) And I'm sorry but this should be praised.

Balkans are one of the most Bilingual places in Europe and culturally/religiously diverse, we live together just fine bcs we respect the rule of Law. These people do not, not ours at least

No, you would just see more violence as there would be more poor and angry people.

What you are proposing is completely inhuman.

If you are poor what do you need to do?

Work

And you can't work if you don't know language

So by cutting Social Aid you force people to Work and Learn the Language, two main obstacles in integration

Chinas economy has slowed down dramatically. America is still the worlds sole super power.

Economy yes, but they still have their own power that can't be ignored

 

[Tejas]

West is as its peak and that won't change for a long time, only real player on the stage is China that is outside of Europe and North America

You are ignoring Demographics

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Its because they are getting ready to invade taiwan soon.

It’s because a lot of manufacturing is leaving china and going to places like Malaysia and Vietnam. But yeah, invasion seems inevitable atp.

 

[Adam 🍎]

You are ignoring Demographics

Nah, India and other "potential powers" are so far behind in development and overall political pressure

When we world turns and spins rarely anyone wonder what India or Pakistan will have to say about it, USA, China, Germany, UK and others still reign supreme and that won't change for a while regardless of demographics

 

[Uncle Van]

Not really, what I am talking about is people making pocket countries inside the country they are in and live by its rules rather than the rules of the country they are in

You can have your own traditions ofc, but you shouldn't bring laws of another country to the country you are in. I'll give you an example

Here in Croatia bcs of Yugoslavia you have a lot of nationalities and religions living together in a relatively peaceful way (don't fuck with me, and i won't fuck with you). Orthodox Serbs living alongside Christian Croatians and Muslim Bosnians, and it works

When immigrant crisis came I was working as a volunteer at a camp, first and second wave were educated people, the brain drain Western Europe wanted, third and fourth wave were basically peasants, and they NEVER bothered to integrate in our country, in the places they settled they hard focused their own rules and regulations, we had cases of them assaulting "natives" bcs some girl wore shorts and some guy didn't wanna see it, shit like that, they never cared about rules and laws, they considered theirs better

Bcs of that vast vast majority were never allowed entry into the country

Gotcha. Just wanted clarification. But yeah, if you move to another nation, you have to abide by their laws. That's like common sense.

 

[Adam 🍎]

Gotcha. Just wanted clarification. But yeah, if you move to another nation, you have to abide by their laws. That's like common sense.

Common sense yet we have mini Chicago/Detroit the closer you are to immigrant centers

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Nah, India and other "potential powers" are so far behind in development and overall political pressure

When we world turns and spins rarely anyone wonder what India or Pakistan will have to say about it, USA, China, Germany, UK and others still reign supreme and that won't change for a while regardless of demographics

I mean, indias gdp per capita is even lower than some of the poorest Latin American countries. Economic Inequality is insane as well. He’s just so deluded to a point where he think India is gonna be the next big honcho. Not happening.

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[Adam 🍎]

I mean, indias gdp per capita is even lower than some of the poorest Latin American countries. Economic Inequality is insane as well. He’s just so deluded to a point where he think India is gonna be the next big honcho. Not happening.

India had a big headline that their GDP is bigger than UK's, and then they were asked how much is GDP per capita (since that is true measure of development) and they said it is Western slander lmfao

India is still very very far behind on world stage

 

[Toby D. Dog]

India had a big headline that their GDP is bigger than UK's, and then they were asked how much is GDP per capita (since that is true measure of development) and they said it is Western slander lmfao

India is still very very far behind on world stage

I mean, when El Salvador has a higher gdp per capita than you that’s when you know shits not great.

 

[Logiko]

Systematic, mostly men in Immigrants camps now, fuckers even protested and put Children first as human shield between them and police

This sound like a desesperate move.
Why do they need to use children as shield? To avoid a beating ?

These people do not, not ours at least

This can be learned. Maybe less beating and more teaching is the way.. no ?

If you are poor what do you need to do?

Work

That's not how life work. You forget that to work you need to be employed first. Plus, not everyone can work, mentally I mean. Especially when you just fled a repressive state or war.

So by cutting Social Aid you force people to Work and Learn the Language, two main obstacles in integration

So by cutting social aid, you will force no one to work, you will only force anger and enforce repression. This is the beginning of fascism.

Really people, try to look beyond your premade solutions, you are blinding yourself to the reality of the field.

 

[Tejas]

Nah, India and other "potential powers" are so far behind in development and overall political pressure

When we world turns and spins rarely anyone wonder what India or Pakistan will have to say about it, USA, China, Germany, UK and others still reign supreme and that won't change for a while regardless of demographics

Economy matters. Hence everyone is looking to make India their ally.

Also Europe will be Islamized soon owing to Fertility rates and migration. This West you know shall be a thing of the past

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Economy matters. Hence everyone is looking to make India their ally.

Also Europe will be Islamized soon owing to Fertility rates and migration. This West you know shall be a thing of the past

We’ll all be speaking Hindi soon I guess.

 

[Tejas]

We’ll all be speaking Hindi soon I guess.

Better learn Sanskrit. It is known to improve mental health

 

[Adam 🍎]

Why do they need to use children as shield? To avoid a beating ?

Well they tried to push their way into our country and used children as human shield

This can be learned. Maybe less beating and more teaching is the way.. no ?

To follow rule of law you need integration, and you can't have that if you don't work or know language

That's not how life work. You forget that to work you need to be employed first. Plus, not everyone can work, mentally I mean. Especially when you just fled a repressive state or war.

That is bullshit, Balkans have massive war and we didn't play victims cards of not working

Most people BS their way out of working

So by cutting social aid, you will force no one to work, you will only force anger and enforce repression. This is the beginning of fascism.

If you don't have money you have to do what? WORK

Economy matters. Hence everyone is looking to make India their ally.

Indian economy, GDP per capita is far bellow most EU countries lmfao

Also Europe will be Islamized soon owing to Fertility rates and migration. This West you know shall be a thing of the past

Nah, you know very little of European politics lmfao

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

We’ll all be speaking Hindi soon I guess.

If it means I can taunt phone scammers in their native tounge, sign me up

A skill's a skill!

 

[Toby D. Dog]

If it means I can taunt phone scammers in their native tounge, sign me up

A skill's a skill!

They’ll never know what hit ‘em.