Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

I miss Trump twitter news and not the war bullshit

Sure.. everything was better when we didn't talked about Palestinian being colonized, killed and oppressed.

The fact that you are taking things personally to the point where you are willing to take Bob's

You use the same fallacious rethoric that a Genocide apologizer that says that if we stand with the palestinian, we are therefore supporting hamas. Stop saying that I support Bob because I told you that you can't contain yourself. Okay ? Stop assuming BS. I don't like fallacious rethoric.

You have no ideological core, as soon as I came around and called you out without even using strong words you completely come crumbling down and let the mask come off.

Sure.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

You use the same fallacious rethoric that a Genocide apologizer that says that if we stand with the palestinian, we are therefore supporting hamas. Stop saying that I support Bob because I told you that you can't contain yourself. Okay ? Stop assuming BS. I don't like fallacious rethoric.

Oh, so now I'm just like a genocide apologist. How can you possibly clutch your pearls about insults when you're so quick to label others as nazis and fascists. There's a huge difference between me being mean to Bob and literally threatening to kill him, but you're so petty that you're willing to not say it because you're angry with me. Today, at the very least, I didn't use strong words to insult people.

 

[Logiko]

Oh, so now I'm just like a genocide apologist. How can you possibly clutch your pearls about insults when you're so quick to label others as nazis and fascists.

Funny, how very few people on the internet don't know the difference between a comparison and a assertion. Did I label you here ?

Please, go check the post again.

There's a huge difference between me being mean to Bob and literally threatening to kill him, but you're so petty that you're willing to not say it because you're angry with me.

Dude, noone on this forum has seen me angry. I can be a little bit triggered at time but I never let my anger out. When I'm warning you, I'm doing it with a smile. I don't care about you enough to be angry at you. Sorry.

Now please, stop gaslighting people.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Funny, how very few people on the internet don't know the difference between a comparison and a assertion. Did I label you here ?

Please, go check the post again.

You're making a comparison here frenchie, and it's not nearly comparable. You just throw labels in order to deflect and obfuscate when you're getting owned. You are still refusing to recognize something as basic as "death threats are unacceptable" just because you're butthurt since you said something stupid and we called you out on it.

 

[Logiko]

You are still refusing to recognize something as basic as "death threats are unacceptable"

Well.. you didn't asked me to recognize that death threats are unacceptable. Why should I be forced to recognize anything BTW ? I told you once that you were hot headed and you took that as a confirmation that I was endorsing Bob when I'm - BTW - the one who went against him the most on this forum. Don't you see how fallacious your rethoric is here ?

Can we go back on the topic please ?

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Given how Israeli officials have openly expressed their disregard for the lives of civilians, is there absolutely any chance that there will be some sort of war crimes tribunal?

Or will they get away with it like always

 

[Logiko]

Given how Israeli officials have openly expressed their disregard for the lives of civilians, is there absolutely any chance that there will be some sort of war crimes tribunal?

Or will they get away with it like always

They managed to get the liberals and the conservative of the world under their wings so the possibility of a trial is as good as non existent. We can only hope for a change of gov in Israel, for the left to take power and maybe try to put some accountabilities on those far right murderer but I don't have high hopes..

 

[NikaInParis]

israel is denying it for a very important reason that is by denying involvement will take off the immediate backlash and have the worlds energy be directed at arguing who did it and not at who did it

Backlash? They haven't faced backlash since their inception.
Netanyahu himself could be filmed on camera sawing a Palestinian baby in half with a dull blade and you'd have people on twitter argue it was Hamas forcing him to do that.

No backlash will ever happen to them, especially from hypocrite Arab nations that could make some difference if they wanted to.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

There's no probably involved here. The rocket was Israeli and they admitted to it themselves online, boasting about neutralising hamas personnel and weapons caches. Then they started backtracking after the Internet & media backlash.

Netanyahu's chief media guy doesn't know but some stranger on Worstgen does? Doesn't compute at all. 🇮🇱 has 0 problems with bombing hospitals or murdering palestinian children, I'm just surprised they backtracked on this one, after all that "palestinians are human animals...we'll turn gaza to dust" talk.

More than enough evidence laying it at their feet imo

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1714395174527254844

It makes much more sense for israel to do this than for Hamas to bomb their own people.

Like these guys are smart enough to coordinate a large scale terrorist attack that bypassed Israel’s high tech security system, and y’all really think they’d be dumb enough to kill hundreds of their own people like this?

Israel’s policy towards the Palestinians is basically just literal terrorism. To use as much force as possible and be as brutal as possible in order to completely demoralize the enemy and beat them into submission.

They know they probably can’t murder every single Palestinian. But I’m sure their generals know that if they murder enough people, they can make it to where Palestinians don’t even have the will to fight back against their own oppression.

 

[Logiko]

It makes much more sense for israel to do this than for Hamas to bomb their own people.

Like these guys are smart enough to coordinate a large scale terrorist attack that bypassed Israel’s high tech security system, and y’all really think they’d be dumb enough to kill hundreds of their own people like this?

Israel’s policy towards the Palestinians is basically just literal terrorism. To use as much force as possible and be as brutal as possible in order to completely demoralize the enemy and beat them into submission.

They know they probably can’t murder every single Palestinian. But I’m sure their generals know that if they murder enough people, they can make it to where Palestinians don’t even have the will to fight back against their own oppression.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Yes. accidents happen.

There were already 2 IDF soldiers killed in accidents (1 friendly fire and 1 accident from working with a weapon)
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1714509334736990648

I don't know why they don't have audio explaining, but you can clearly see the damage is not from an Israeli strike

I have absolutely zero faith in the IDF, or really any government, to be honest about these things.

You think they’re just going to admit to committing crimes against humanity? Of course they’ll deny it.

But there are so many examples of countries denying or covering up war crimes that there’s just no reason to trust them.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

 

[RayanOO]

I have absolutely zero faith in the IDF, or really any government, to be honest about these things.

You think they’re just going to admit to committing crimes against humanity? Of course they’ll deny it.

But there are so many examples of countries denying or covering up war crimes that there’s just no reason to trust them.

But you have faith in the hamas to recognize a mistake ?

Both sides can cover things up

But I feel no one will ever believe the others in this topic and this will stay a words vs words ….

 

[Sekai Saikyō Mihawk]

It makes much more sense for israel to do this than for Hamas to bomb their own people.

Like these guys are smart enough to coordinate a large scale terrorist attack that bypassed Israel’s high tech security system, and y’all really think they’d be dumb enough to kill hundreds of their own people like this?

Israel’s policy towards the Palestinians is basically just literal terrorism. To use as much force as possible and be as brutal as possible in order to completely demoralize the enemy and beat them into submission.

They know they probably can’t murder every single Palestinian. But I’m sure their generals know that if they murder enough people, they can make it to where Palestinians don’t even have the will to fight back against their own oppression.

Basically this.

From the genocidal rhetorics of comparing the Palestinians to animals, telling everyone you'll turn Gaza, bombing a hospital a couple days back and mirade of other crazy stuff, but this is something that they didn't.

It's quite funny how for the last 9 days it was "hamas doesn't have the weapons to prolong this fight" to "hamas has underground bunker destroying missiles". Desperate to protect people that gloated about the massacre themselves initially

 

[RayanOO]

Basically this.

From the genocidal rhetorics of comparing the Palestinians to animals, telling everyone you'll turn Gaza, bombing a hospital a couple days back and mirade of other crazy stuff, but this is something that they didn't.

It's quite funny how for the last 9 days it was "hamas doesn't have the weapons to prolong this fight" to "hamas has underground bunker destroying missiles". Desperate to protect people that gloated about the massacre themselves initially

It’s proven that the « Islamic Jihad » (don’t know how that other group is called exactly) has bigger warhead that can go up to 200/300kg

 

[Monkey D Theories]

But you have faith in the hamas to recognize a mistake ?

Both sides can cover things up

But I feel no one will ever believe the others in this topic and this will stay a words vs words ….

targeting civilians is part of Israeli military strategy. They want to absolutely obliterate their enemies.

Especially when they are never held accountable by the western world, honestly why shouldn’t they bomb a hospital? They’ll get what they want, more dead and terrorized Palestinians, and they’ll never face pushback or consequences from the west.

People on twitter will cry about it, then the news cycle will spin, and everyone will forget about it. Just like they forget about every other crime israel commits.

 

[RayanOO]

targeting civilians is part of Israeli military strategy. They want to absolutely obliterate their enemies.

Especially when they are never held accountable by the western world, honestly why shouldn’t they bomb a hospital? They’ll get what they want, more dead and terrorized Palestinians, and they’ll never face pushback or consequences from the west.

People on twitter will cry about it, then the news cycle will spin, and everyone will forget about it. Just like they forget about every other crime israel commits.

It’s none sense

Do you really think Israel targeted intentionally an hospital with thousand of civilians the day before Biden would come ? It’s beyond stupid to do that

Just see the backlash from that strike. If Israel had done that on purpose they are all crazy stupid.

And your video proved nothing.
I can say the same thing showing that Hamas again and again used its population to protect itself or to cause more death to show Israel are the bad guys.
Especially given the reaction from that strike : Arabs and even other countries are all condemning the bombing, it united arabs and it shows Israel monstruosity.
They « won » big time from the hospital bombing. So if someone is telling me they did it on purpose I wouldn’t be that surprised either.

I don’t understand how you give more stocks to Hamas than Israel it’s beyond me. Both have interests here.

But all in all I think it’s a mistake, from one side or from the other.
And from what I am seeing everywhere (TV etc) it seems more likely than it was a mistake from the Islamic jihad/hamas than it was a mistake from Israel side.

 

[NikaInParis]

Worth a listen
The guy absolutely dismantles western zionist fanboys and further underlines the planed media smear campaign of Palestinians (and by extension Muslims) as animals. Reminds me of the Rat Rethoric of the 1930s by Benu Hitler

 

[Tobra]

It’s proven that the « Islamic Jihad » (don’t know how that other group is called exactly) has bigger warhead that can go up to 200/300kg

can you post that proof
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it’s funny how the defense for israel bombing the hospital is “they arent dumb” “they wouldn’t deny it” “biden is visiting they gain nothing”

 

[Toby D. Dog]

It’s none sense

Do you really think Israel targeted intentionally an hospital with thousand of civilians the day before Biden would come ? It’s beyond stupid to do that

Just see the backlash from that strike. If Israel had done that on purpose they are all crazy stupid.

And your video proved nothing.
I can say the same thing showing that Hamas again and again used its population to protect itself or to cause more death to show Israel are the bad guys.
Especially given the reaction from that strike : Arabs and even other countries are all condemning the bombing, it united arabs and it shows Israel monstruosity.
They « won » big time from the hospital bombing. So if someone is telling me they did it on purpose I wouldn’t be that surprised either.

I don’t understand how you give more stocks to Hamas than Israel it’s beyond me. Both have interests here.

But all in all I think it’s a mistake, from one side or from the other.
And from what I am seeing everywhere (TV etc) it seems more likely than it was a mistake from the Islamic jihad/hamas than it was a mistake from Israel side.

From an American perspective, financial and military support for Israel has been unconditional for countless years. Many US politicians are financed by Israeli lobbyists so there is a monetary incentive to keep supporting them. Israel believes they can get away with anything, and with good reason. They have violated international law more times than anyone can count, they do it on a daily basis, and they keep getting everything they want regardless.