Controversial General Political Discussion

[RayanOO]

can you post that proof

Saw that on French TV (a serious one)
Can try to find the link when I come back

it’s funny how the defense for israel bombing the hospital is “they arent dumb” “they wouldn’t deny it” “biden is visiting they gain nothing”

Yeah if Israel did that on purpose it would be beyond stupid

But yeah it’s possible they made a mistake and try to cover it.

But why are you denying the possibility of Hamas / Jihad having made a mistake too ? Is it really that impossible ?

especially with the videos / analysis I saw saying it can be the case

 

[Mathias]

Thank to the gods we have you to power scale fascism on this forum. A valuable asset you are

 

[Logiko]

Thank to the gods we have you to power scale fascism on this forum. A valuable asset you are

Do you think that Israel is a normal state from the not fascist to full fascist scale ?

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Oh Israel aren't dumb. They know they can get away with any war crime by blaming on Hamas/whatever boogieman, it's a known PR tactic of the hasbara. And it works.

 

[RayanOO]

can you post that proof

https://pdf.defence.pk/threads/isla...th-huge-300kg-warhead-during-fighting.643093/

I only quickly found that but it seems even Islamic Jihad said not so long ago that they had those type of weapons

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

https://videoidf.azureedge.net/e67ae402-79e2-4e8c-a6a5-d32da01ccf80

A supposed recording of Hamas (Islamic Jihad?) conversation, released by Israel.

Saw some more links flying, supposedly released by Israel hours ago, but I haven't clicked or read on any of them yet.

 

[Apollo]

https://videoidf.azureedge.net/e67ae402-79e2-4e8c-a6a5-d32da01ccf80

A supposed recording of Hamas (Islamic Jihad?) conversation, released by Israel.

Saw some more links flying, supposedly released by Israel hours ago, but I haven't clicked or read on any of them yet.

Nobody in their right mind would download a file released by the IDF.

Is there any of this audio online where I don't have to download it ?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Nobody in their right mind would download a file released by the IDF.

Is there any of this audio online where I don't have to download it ?

Not sure what you mean? I didn't download it, it just took me to a new tab and played there.

 

[Roo]

video of the damage done

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1714535687070916987

 

[Tobra]

https://pdf.defence.pk/threads/isla...th-huge-300kg-warhead-during-fighting.643093/

I only quickly found that but it seems even Islamic Jihad said not so long ago that they had those type of weapons

israel claimed it was shot down and the shrapnel fell on the hospital

but from the videos we see that the missile exploded and from the sound of missile it was targeted not shrapnel

 

[Fn Lucci]

I hate that it's even supposed to matter. It's probably the difference of whether Israel gets calls to calm tf down or not... as if it shouldn't just be about casualties regardless

 

[RayanOO]

israel claimed it was shot down and the shrapnel fell on the hospital

but from the videos we see that the missile exploded and from the sound of missile it was targeted not shrapnel

I’m no expert at all

but from I saw and from what it’s said currently from the image : it seemed it was a missile that was shot but during its flight it had some problems and the fell on the hospital

From the picture of the parking lot inside the hospital it seems the missile didnt directly land on it. The hole isn’t big enough for a real missile that hit its target without problems. But more a missile that fell on it

once again I’m just parroting things I saw and heard

 

[Sekai Saikyō Mihawk]

It’s proven that the « Islamic Jihad » (don’t know how that other group is called exactly) has bigger warhead that can go up to 200/300kg

I'm sure it was :risicheck:

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Looks like the growing consensus is that it wasn’t Israel.

 

[NAMELESS]

Looks like the growing consensus is that it wasn’t Israel.

An amateur mistake like this is more likely to happen with improvised explosives like the Hamas uses.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

An amateur mistake like this is more likely to happen with improvised explosives like the Hamas uses.

I’m also hearing the damage done was greatly exaggerated? But I can’t find any sources for that.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Video of call of Hamas operatives talking about the failed launch:
https://streamable.com/k3f4b9


And other failed launches so far with percentages (of how many fails out of all launches):

“It couldn’t have exploded somewhere else?” is the most humanizing thing for Hamas. I felt that 😂😂

 

[Roo]

I’m also hearing the damage done was greatly exaggerated? But I can’t find any sources for that.

The video I’ve shared is basically the aftermath, it appears that the hospital itself wasn’t hit and instead the parking lot.

 

[NAMELESS]

“It couldn’t have exploded somewhere else” is the most humanizing thing for Hamas. I felt that 😂😂

Their best move is to blame Israel.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

The video I’ve shared is basically the aftermath, it appears that the hospital itself wasn’t hit and instead the parking lot.

Do we have a number on casualties?