Controversial General Political Discussion

[Okamakama]

 

[NikaInParis]

this is not "they" this is a minority far right nutjob and his fellow nutjobs

Funny how there's this level of nuance when one talks about your country and government

 

[Okamakama]

Funny how there's this level of nuance when one talks about your country and government

Seethe more.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Yeah he's part of the coalition
my point was that he is representing 6/120 seats

Still part of the gabinet.
Still representing THE GOVERNMENT.
STILL REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE.
CHANTING AND SINGING FOR GENOCIDE.

How can you defend this.
He is not a fringe, he is THE GOVERNMENT.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

I'm not defending HIM, he sucks
I'm defending the rest of the people who didn't vote for him or agree with him

He still represents the common people.
I am sure people are asking him to resign and give up his title, since they must be disgusted to be represented by a genocidal maniac.
Right?

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

the government was protested for a long time, he in particular was always criticized and ridiculed. People called for him to not even ran (cause he's a literal domestic terrorist), imagine he's like a mini trump
now, bibi keeps kicking him out from the war cabinet because he contributes nothing

People are asking everyone to resign, but you can't have that now in the middle of the war, that's for after.
You try to paint the entire country as genocidal maniacs which is simply not correct

You cannot kick out a genocidal maniac out of the war cabinet that is committing that above mentioned genocide?
And apparently, nobody wants this government.
Everyone is protesting.
Basically are you saying that Bibi got in power thorugh what, a coup d'etat?

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Seethe more.

I thought you were a "civility" humper. My man here is as civil as it gets, he's nothing but cordial to everyone regardless of ideology.

 

[NikaInParis]

Seethe more.

Your worst nightmare:

Spoiler

Boo

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

"war cabinet that is commiting genocide" this is how I know you have no idea what you're talking about
It's not.
Nobody said bibi got through that. He can't break his coalition now cause it's not the time for elections. He basically kicks him out of cabinet meetings anyway so Ben Gvir isn't doing anything anyways, outside of these stupid stuff and crying on tweeter

Bombing churches and hospitals.DONE
Closing water and electricity. DONE
Refusing border passage to civilians. DONE
Killing innocents in the west bank where there is no Hamas. DONE.

Oh it's not genocide, although most of the things listed here are happening right now and are well known crimes against humanity.
Tell yourself whatever you want to sleep at night, but there is a Genocide going on, and whoever supports it, defends it or mistifies reality hiding behind semantica, qualifies themselves for what they are.

 

[Midnight Delight]

Basically are you saying that Bibi got in power thorugh what, a coup d'etat?

That's basically what happened lmao

 

[Okamakama]

I thought you were a "civility" humper. My man here is as civil as it gets, he's nothing but cordial to everyone regardless of ideology.

He really aint though lmao.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

>Closing water and electricity. Water was already turned back on
>Refusing border passage to civilians Egypt border opened to let in dual citizen egyptians, and now a bunch of trucks with food and supplies came in through egypt border
>Killing innocents in the west bank where there is no Hamas There is Hamas in West Bank (it's simply not the government of the west bank), and terrorists.
So far in the West Bank, more than 930 wanted were arrested, 608 of them belong to Hamas. Just last night, 68 were arrested, 58 of them belong to Hamas.
here's a vid of the terrorists of last night neutralized: https://videoidf.azureedge.net/278bb251-780d-4756-bcfb-325084d2d4e0

here is some stuff your "west bank civilians" had on them:

So to your knowledge, besides innocent civilians, there are terrorists in the west bank some which belong to Hamas. Some are citizen radicalized and "turned on" since this war started.
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No, he just made the worst flimsy coalition with some far right idiots

Why did you skip the point about bombing churches or hospitals? Too much to admit that the people you defend are bombing and murdering innocents?

Water turned on, lol it was just a prank here is the water. How about electricity?
The egypt border, but how about the israel border? Are you telling me israel is correct in pushing back innocents running away from israeli bombs?

 

[Toby D. Dog]

He really aint though lmao.

You came at him. At least hold yourself up to your own standard.

 

[NikaInParis]

The only terrorists present in the West Bank are forceful settlers and the IDF that arrest, kick out of homes, and kill civilians - the only enemy they're brave enough to face head on (but only because they need their houses this time)

 

[Okamakama]

You came at him. At least hold yourself up to your own standard.

This time, I hold my hands high to admit I did indeed 'come at him'. But having endured his tacit agreement with genocidal individuals (Sekai et al), and his responses to me over the past few days, I found it amusing that he sat on a high horse. So I made a jab. Sue me, I'm human.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

cause I didn't notice it lol
the big hospital bombing with "500 civilian dead" was fake, it was a failed rocket launch and only 20-50 died.
The church thing was also fake.
The other hospitals were Hamas war rooms/ammo
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you are simply posting factually false information.
People with guns/bombs trying to attack soldiers in the West Bank are not terrorists? what are they? who are the 900 people who were arrested?
87 terrorists and 2 IDF soldiers died in the west bank in this war.

Can't you take the Palestinian side without lying or fake news?

Is fake news only what is not said by Israel, oh bringer of truth?
So, hospitals are hamas bases, all of them. Because israel said so. The same israel where member of the cabinet call for genocide. Of course, no contradiction there.
How about this church?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...eld-for-those-killed-in-gaza-church-airstrike

Also, no words of israrl borders not taking in any person, not even children?

You lie to yourself, you are defending a genocide. I hope you'll be able to see it.

 

[NikaInParis]

you are simply posting factually false information.

I have yet to see you post a single factual report from this whole encounter.

Also, factually false is an oxymoron - things are either false, or factual. They cannot be factually false, or falsely factual.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

"Earlier today, IDF fighter jets struck the command and control center belonging to a Hamas terrorist, involved in the launching of rockets and mortars toward Israel.

The command and control center was used to carry out attacks against Israel, and contained terrorist infrastructure belonging to the Hamas terrorist organization.

As a result of the IDF strike, a wall of a church in the area was damaged. We are aware of reports on casualties. The incident is under review."

The IDF didn't bomb it on purpose.



The Israeli border with Gaza? how would that work? how would you differentiate between Hamas and non Hamas? and Hamas supporters? Israel let them get supplies through Egypt border. Any other border crossing should be done in Egypt as they are not at war with Hamas. This makes 0 sense in a war setting. Not to mention parts of the border are still destroyed since the attack.
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What? The West Bank arrests/deaths? I copied numbers from wikipedia and daily numbers from a recent message on telegram
Israel launched an air strike on a mosque in the occupied West Bank, with Palestinian officials reporting that at least two people were killed in the attack, and three others were injured.

The Israeli’ military said the strike on the Al-Ansar mosque early on Sunday killed several members of Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad who had been using the building as a command centre.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023...kills-two-in-west-bank-palestinian-medics-say
here's straight even from aljazeera
here's another: https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/19/middleeast/hamas-spokesperson-detained-west-bank-intl/index.html

Is it too hard for you to google "Iron Swords Gaza West Bank" or something like that? Do I have to prove everything?

I am sorry for you.

believe the propaganda of a state ruled by genocidal maniacs.

I am happy to not be you.

 

[NikaInParis]

The emphatic part of the Israeli population will have to live out the rest of their lives with the gigantic burden of knowing they let an ethnic cleansing go through right at their doorstep.

The less emphatic part eagerly awaits it and actively helps it - either physically or through online campaigns and astroturfing.

And this time there's no Schindler's List for the Palestinians.

 

[Sekai Saikyō Mihawk]

They'll get there's someday. That's the only silver lining in this fucked up genocide
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"We're only targeting hamas, there doesn't need to be news coverage about that...."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1717248146718310655