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Monkey D Theories

Monkey D Theories

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Fn Lucci said:
I just had a long argument with my best friend on those college heads and he can't understand how or why snippets from the six hours could be used to make them look bad. Yeah a woman who defends George Santos trying to pigeonhole you with questions and baiting sound bites doesn't mean anything unless you truly hate Jews and call for their destruction*

* No one was actually doing this
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I think that UPenn lady had a poor choice of words. But tbh I think there is an antisemitism witch hunt.

Because every mainstream Jewish organization, save for a handful of anti Zionist ones, are literally incapable of differentiating between hatred of Jewish people and criticism of a country that just so happens to have a Jewish majority.

When you say that “from the river to the see, Palestine will be free” is a call to genocide the Jews, or when you say that calling for the dissolution of the Jewish state is inherently genocidal, you are muddying the waters.

So yeah the UPenn lady had a point, context does matter. Because a lot of Zionists will blatantly lie about antisemitism to censor any criticism of Israel
 
Monkey D Theories

Monkey D Theories

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I was having a conversation with some people on a leftist Jewish subreddit about this.

Jews, despite being a minority, are a relatively privileged group. At least regarding western Ashkenazim.

Compared to the average population, Ashkenazi Jews tend to be more educated and have more wealth.

Collectively speaking, Jews in the west have a tremendous amount of wealth and influence. The fear of this wealth and influence is a cornerstone of antisemitism, where Jewish power is exaggerated to comical proportions.
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However this privilege is still very much real. And when Zionist Jewish activists make claims like “antizionism is antisemitism”, they are speaking from a place of privilege.

Whereas black activism focuses on police brutality and mass incarceration

Whereas lgbt activism focuses on anti lgbt laws passed by the government

Zionist Jewish activism is not focused on structural injustice but rather on stopping people from criticizing Israel.

This is entitled privileged people behavior.
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historically, Jewish wealth and influence has been weaponized against Palestinians.

Zionist organizations like the JNF used Jewish wealth to buy land from absentee landlords and disposses the Palestinians living on that land.

Rich and influential Jews like the Rothschilds were lords in Britain and used their influence to get the British government to support the Zionist cause. This led to the British promising Palestine to the Jews, a land which was never the British’s to promise. And it led to the British being complicit in the nakba where Zionist terrorists brutalized Arabs that the British, as the occupying power at the time, had the obligation to defend.
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Ultimately I got a lot of positive feedback on Reddit for my critique, which I think is good. It means that there is a growing consciousness within the Jewish community about the relationship between Zionism and privilege.

I think this is important because it challenges a fundamental Zionist narrative. One in which Israel is always the victim and always defending itself.

When irl, the Zionist movement was from the start a colonial movement funded by rich white peoples like Lord Rothschild.
 
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Roo

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Monkey D Theories said:
to be fair, the term is used in a very political and inconsistent way

Joe Biden called Russia's crimes in Ukraine a genocide but he couldn't say the same to Israel
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Because neither are.

genocide isn’t “let’s kill a bunch of people” or else every single war is a genocide

tho with Russia ironically there’s a better argument, irrc they were kidnapping Ukrainian children and Russifying them
 
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