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No mate.
Saying "some human are superior than others" is fascist
And Saying "Some human are born in more priviledge" is a sociological fact
Those two sentence are completely different in meaning.
I think you don't even understand what you are talking about here.
Wrong, they are not born better AT ALL.
No. Only you and fascist think that. What the hell are you even saying ? I don't think that men are born better Einstein. They re just born with more priviledge.
Oh boi
You don't understand the difference, do you ?
Your case is worst that I thought. You actually don't understand the difference between a system of value (being better) and a bagage of societal advantage given by your environement and situation (having more priviledges).
You actually don't know what a the word 'priviledge' mean do you ?...
Yes it would be, 'cause you would be saying some fascist stuff... duh
Well not exactly, they are not copying it. If they were to do that, it would be okay. They TRANSFORM it to fit a capitalist agenda. And since leftism is fighting against capitalism, then there is not much leftism left once liberal parasites our ideologies
Like I said, no. As they completely transform the leftist ideology and only keep the bankable stuff. Bankable stuff are not leftist, they are universal. Being pro LGBTQ+ is not only a leftist thing and yet you see a far right gov of Israel using that to appeal to progressist populations.
That's what paraziting an ideology means. Its not leftism anymore. Its liberalism or worst.
Its not if you cared to read what I write and trying to actually understand what I write instead of ignoring 90% of my argumentation.
I'm not doing that with you, so why are you doing that with me ?
"The marvels" is the first movie to be a clear financial failure for Marvel. So they had no reason to stop until now.
But what you think is a failure for political reason is not. "The Marvels" was not ignored by the public because "its too woke" (its not even close to woke) it was ignored by the movie because it seems to be a BAD STORY.
You might have missed it, but Marvel and Disney shows in general (aside from a few Gem here and there) have been really average slash bad the last few years. The reason is not their politics, the reason is their stories.
Look at the difference between Asokha and Andor for example. Two Disney shows, one not really good and really average and one amazing show.. and amazingly well recieved by the critics. Well spoilers: Andor is the WOKEST things you might have seen on any streaming plateform this days.
And still.. its amazingly good and well recieved.
Well the reason is simple: the story was amazingly good.
No you %#µ£# !!!
You are not superior because you have more power, only a fascist think that way !!
"Inferior and superior" are MORAL VALUES when put on subjects, they are not real. What the F is wrong with you ??
And yet, on the other side, you are supporting what feeds this Oligarchy : patriarchy
I'm not the one who needs to see reality. You can't go and say that there is an oligarchy and completely ignore why it is here in the first place.
No. I said facts based on knowledge we have. Actually I gave all of you two dozens of scientific articles explaining those facts.
You did not say facts, you only promoted a far right ideology about women and men. There are no facts behind that.
No
And what you don't see is that its already what is happenning.
In society, its the women who have the mental load burden, not men. While men are indeed expected to provide in a patriarcal society (because it affects men too), women are expected to do everything else. Meaning that not only women are expected to live their lives and also have a job, but to provide also for EVERYTHING ELSE on top of that (taking care of the kids, keeping the house clean, doing chores, shopping for the family etc..
I think its time for you to understand the concept of "MENTAL LOAD", the representation of patriarchy in women's every day life:
https://youtube.com/shorts/YWnj06vNrOk?si=B-lnxg6NDZsrwy9h
Google is your friend mate
No it did not. If that was the case you wouldn't live in a country where 62 million persons are living in poverty.
You are in complete deny. and full stockolm syndrom (even if such a thing doesn't really exist, its for the argument) :
You are praising the system that makes you suffer.
Saying "some human are superior than others" is fascist
And Saying "Some human are born in more priviledge" is a sociological fact
Those two sentence are completely different in meaning.
I think you don't even understand what you are talking about here.
Wrong, they are not born better AT ALL.
No. Only you and fascist think that. What the hell are you even saying ? I don't think that men are born better Einstein. They re just born with more priviledge.
Oh boi
You don't understand the difference, do you ?
Your case is worst that I thought. You actually don't understand the difference between a system of value (being better) and a bagage of societal advantage given by your environement and situation (having more priviledges).
You actually don't know what a the word 'priviledge' mean do you ?...
Yes it would be, 'cause you would be saying some fascist stuff... duh
Well not exactly, they are not copying it. If they were to do that, it would be okay. They TRANSFORM it to fit a capitalist agenda. And since leftism is fighting against capitalism, then there is not much leftism left once liberal parasites our ideologies
Like I said, no. As they completely transform the leftist ideology and only keep the bankable stuff. Bankable stuff are not leftist, they are universal. Being pro LGBTQ+ is not only a leftist thing and yet you see a far right gov of Israel using that to appeal to progressist populations.
That's what paraziting an ideology means. Its not leftism anymore. Its liberalism or worst.
Its not if you cared to read what I write and trying to actually understand what I write instead of ignoring 90% of my argumentation.
I'm not doing that with you, so why are you doing that with me ?
"The marvels" is the first movie to be a clear financial failure for Marvel. So they had no reason to stop until now.
But what you think is a failure for political reason is not. "The Marvels" was not ignored by the public because "its too woke" (its not even close to woke) it was ignored by the movie because it seems to be a BAD STORY.
You might have missed it, but Marvel and Disney shows in general (aside from a few Gem here and there) have been really average slash bad the last few years. The reason is not their politics, the reason is their stories.
Look at the difference between Asokha and Andor for example. Two Disney shows, one not really good and really average and one amazing show.. and amazingly well recieved by the critics. Well spoilers: Andor is the WOKEST things you might have seen on any streaming plateform this days.
And still.. its amazingly good and well recieved.
Well the reason is simple: the story was amazingly good.
No you %#µ£# !!!
You are not superior because you have more power, only a fascist think that way !!
"Inferior and superior" are MORAL VALUES when put on subjects, they are not real. What the F is wrong with you ??
And yet, on the other side, you are supporting what feeds this Oligarchy : patriarchy
I'm not the one who needs to see reality. You can't go and say that there is an oligarchy and completely ignore why it is here in the first place.
No. I said facts based on knowledge we have. Actually I gave all of you two dozens of scientific articles explaining those facts.
You did not say facts, you only promoted a far right ideology about women and men. There are no facts behind that.
No
And what you don't see is that its already what is happenning.
In society, its the women who have the mental load burden, not men. While men are indeed expected to provide in a patriarcal society (because it affects men too), women are expected to do everything else. Meaning that not only women are expected to live their lives and also have a job, but to provide also for EVERYTHING ELSE on top of that (taking care of the kids, keeping the house clean, doing chores, shopping for the family etc..
I think its time for you to understand the concept of "MENTAL LOAD", the representation of patriarchy in women's every day life:
https://youtube.com/shorts/YWnj06vNrOk?si=B-lnxg6NDZsrwy9h
Google is your friend mate
No it did not. If that was the case you wouldn't live in a country where 62 million persons are living in poverty.
You are in complete deny. and full stockolm syndrom (even if such a thing doesn't really exist, its for the argument) :
You are praising the system that makes you suffer.
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Ask any cop and he will tell you that it is very common for people to get jumped while trying to stop fights,especially if its a couple fight.
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Your socialist state of France still explores 14 nations in Africa. You literally live off the misery of others nations,hypocritical parasite. I already posted the scriptures here and explained why people like you are a hell spawn.
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I already answered most of your shit,you are just too dumb,hypocritical and obtuse.
1-I'm not defending billionaires. I'm defending the right of private property and accumulation of wealth.
2-Meritocracy is a thing. You might not like it because you are worthless and you don't like to work,but it is a thing. The market rewards those that offer value.
3-People have different skillsets and some are just off the charts. People get rich by working,saving and winning the game of free market.
4-Brazil is poor,because this is a socialist economy and country disguised as a free one. Lets not pretend Europe and the US don't play their cards to keep nations like these developing for ever. Your country still has colonies for example.
5-You are a nasty,bitch. Insults aren't only swear words,you clown. A bastard like you should not be mentioning anyone's mother.
6-I keep replying to your shit,because its entertaining to bait you. Its like giving candy to chimps in a zoo. We all know you have no one else to talk to and keep seeking validation here,because you are a lonely loser.
"Muh Carrot and Communism"
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To me you are a eunuch. I don't see you as a fellow man. How can one be unable to feed themselves,dream of a sugar daddy/pimp gov to turn your fellow countrymen into slaves,be unhealthy and lonely and still have the audacity to think you are something else other than a wortless parasite? I'm not a masochist or sodomite. I would rather die then become useless and immoral as you. I pity the likes of you.
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No mate.
Saying "some human are superior than others" is fascist
And Saying "Some human are born in more priviledge" is a sociological fact
Those two sentence are completely different in meaning.
I think you don't even understand what you are talking about here.
Wrong, they are not born better AT ALL.
No. Only you and fascist think that. What the hell are you even saying ? I don't think that men are born better Einstein. They re just born with more priviledge.
Oh boi
You don't understand the difference, do you ?
Your case is worst that I thought. You actually don't understand the difference between a system of value (being better) and a bagage of societal advantage given by your environement and situation (having more priviledges).
You actually don't know what a the word 'priviledge' mean do you ?...
Yes it would be, 'cause you would be saying some fascist stuff... duh
Well not exactly, they are not copying it. If they were to do that, it would be okay. They TRANSFORM it to fit a capitalist agenda. And since leftism is fighting against capitalism, then there is not much leftism left once liberal parasites our ideologies
Like I said, no. As they completely transform the leftist ideology and only keep the bankable stuff. Bankable stuff are not leftist, they are universal. Being pro LGBTQ+ is not only a leftist thing and yet you see a far right gov of Israel using that to appeal to progressist populations.
That's what paraziting an ideology means. Its not leftism anymore. Its liberalism or worst.
Its not if you cared to read what I write and trying to actually understand what I write instead of ignoring 90% of my argumentation.
I'm not doing that with you, so why are you doing that with me ?
"The marvels" is the first movie to be a clear financial failure for Marvel. So they had no reason to stop until now.
But what you think is a failure for political reason is not. "The Marvels" was not ignored by the public because "its too woke" (its not even close to woke) it was ignored by the movie because it seems to be a BAD STORY.
You might have missed it, but Marvel and Disney shows in general (aside from a few Gem here and there) have been really average slash bad the last few years. The reason is not their politics, the reason is their stories.
Look at the difference between Asokha and Andor for example. Two Disney shows, one not really good and really average and one amazing show.. and amazingly well recieved by the critics. Well spoilers: Andor is the WOKEST things you might have seen on any streaming plateform this days.
And still.. its amazingly good and well recieved.
Well the reason is simple: the story was amazingly good.
No you %#µ£# !!!
You are not superior because you have more power, only a fascist think that way !!
"Inferior and superior" are MORAL VALUES when put on subjects, they are not real. What the F is wrong with you ??
And yet, on the other side, you are supporting what feeds this Oligarchy : patriarchy
I'm not the one who needs to see reality. You can go and say that there is an oligarchy and completely ignore why it is here in the first place.
No. I said facts based on knowledge we have. Actually I gave all of you two dozens of scientific articles explaining those facts.
You did not say facts, you only promoted a far right ideology about women and men. There are no facts behind that.
No
And what you don't see is that its already what is happenning.
In society, its the women who have the mental load burden, not men. While men are indeed expected to provide in a patriarcal society (because it affects men too), women are expected to do everything else. Meaning that not only women are expected to live their lives and also have a job, but to provide also for EVERYTHING ELSE on top of that (taking care of the kids, keeping the house clean, doing chores, shopping for the family etc..
I think its time for you to understand the concept of "MENTAL LOAD", the representation of patriarchy in women's every day life:
https://youtube.com/shorts/YWnj06vNrOk?si=B-lnxg6NDZsrwy9h
Google is your friend mate
No it did not. If that was the case you wouldn't live in a country where 62 million persons are living in poverty.
You are in complete deny. and full stockolm syndrom (even if such a thing doesn't really exist, its for the argument) :
You are praising the system that makes you suffer.
Saying "some human are superior than others" is fascist
And Saying "Some human are born in more priviledge" is a sociological fact
Those two sentence are completely different in meaning.
I think you don't even understand what you are talking about here.
Wrong, they are not born better AT ALL.
No. Only you and fascist think that. What the hell are you even saying ? I don't think that men are born better Einstein. They re just born with more priviledge.
Oh boi
You don't understand the difference, do you ?
Your case is worst that I thought. You actually don't understand the difference between a system of value (being better) and a bagage of societal advantage given by your environement and situation (having more priviledges).
You actually don't know what a the word 'priviledge' mean do you ?...
Yes it would be, 'cause you would be saying some fascist stuff... duh
Well not exactly, they are not copying it. If they were to do that, it would be okay. They TRANSFORM it to fit a capitalist agenda. And since leftism is fighting against capitalism, then there is not much leftism left once liberal parasites our ideologies
Like I said, no. As they completely transform the leftist ideology and only keep the bankable stuff. Bankable stuff are not leftist, they are universal. Being pro LGBTQ+ is not only a leftist thing and yet you see a far right gov of Israel using that to appeal to progressist populations.
That's what paraziting an ideology means. Its not leftism anymore. Its liberalism or worst.
Its not if you cared to read what I write and trying to actually understand what I write instead of ignoring 90% of my argumentation.
I'm not doing that with you, so why are you doing that with me ?
"The marvels" is the first movie to be a clear financial failure for Marvel. So they had no reason to stop until now.
But what you think is a failure for political reason is not. "The Marvels" was not ignored by the public because "its too woke" (its not even close to woke) it was ignored by the movie because it seems to be a BAD STORY.
You might have missed it, but Marvel and Disney shows in general (aside from a few Gem here and there) have been really average slash bad the last few years. The reason is not their politics, the reason is their stories.
Look at the difference between Asokha and Andor for example. Two Disney shows, one not really good and really average and one amazing show.. and amazingly well recieved by the critics. Well spoilers: Andor is the WOKEST things you might have seen on any streaming plateform this days.
And still.. its amazingly good and well recieved.
Well the reason is simple: the story was amazingly good.
No you %#µ£# !!!
You are not superior because you have more power, only a fascist think that way !!
"Inferior and superior" are MORAL VALUES when put on subjects, they are not real. What the F is wrong with you ??
And yet, on the other side, you are supporting what feeds this Oligarchy : patriarchy
I'm not the one who needs to see reality. You can go and say that there is an oligarchy and completely ignore why it is here in the first place.
No. I said facts based on knowledge we have. Actually I gave all of you two dozens of scientific articles explaining those facts.
You did not say facts, you only promoted a far right ideology about women and men. There are no facts behind that.
No
And what you don't see is that its already what is happenning.
In society, its the women who have the mental load burden, not men. While men are indeed expected to provide in a patriarcal society (because it affects men too), women are expected to do everything else. Meaning that not only women are expected to live their lives and also have a job, but to provide also for EVERYTHING ELSE on top of that (taking care of the kids, keeping the house clean, doing chores, shopping for the family etc..
I think its time for you to understand the concept of "MENTAL LOAD", the representation of patriarchy in women's every day life:
https://youtube.com/shorts/YWnj06vNrOk?si=B-lnxg6NDZsrwy9h
Google is your friend mate
No it did not. If that was the case you wouldn't live in a country where 62 million persons are living in poverty.
You are in complete deny. and full stockolm syndrom (even if such a thing doesn't really exist, its for the argument) :
You are praising the system that makes you suffer.
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Oh but that's completely correct. Billionnaires DO profit of my ideology.. but the thing you are forgetting to check... is that
The thing you are forgetting to notice, is that the one between me and you who is defending the way of life of Billionnaires.. is not me..
Its you.
You mean, meritocracy ? The system you are defending right now ? Yes, indeed. It prevent people from climbing the ladders of success.
Are you saying that there are people born superior and inferior here ?
Indeed, there are very rare exceptions where this is the case, but those people will most likely not become Billionaires, but scientists or artists.
Funny thing is.. even when such people exist, a natural gift is not enough for success.
So this argument is simply irrelevant.
No, not naturally.
If natural gift was enough to create enormous amounts of wealth, and if society was really equal to give a chance for all to shine... you wouldn't just see a few Billionaires, but millions and millions...
In your parrallel world where we human can surpass even creation and create success out of nothingness and our own will, you are completely underestimating the potential genius in humanity itself and crediting it only to a handfull of people.
We ALL have the potential to create enormous amounts of wealth in specific conditions.
Wait, you are telling me that since capitalism exist (since around the XVIIe century following some theories or since the end of the middle age following others) it has been systematically eradicating poverty all over the globe ?
Wait, so why is there still hardcore poverty then ?
Are you kissing your mother with this mouth ?
Do you really believe that lie ? Are you really that blind that you can't even see the level of poverty in your own country ? In the US ? In Europe ? In Africa ? Do you actually believe that capitalism is just "that slow".. and that its must "take time" ?
Are you really that naive ?
OMG.. You are completely missing the point...
Its not capitalism that allows me to heal in peace mate. That's what you are completely missunderstanding.
Its the socialist reforms FIGHTING capitalism that are allowing me to do that. Why do you think that the US don't have Health care but we do in France ? Its not the right and its not capitalism that allowed those progress.
Its the F*cking LEFT who arrived in power and made thing change. Its the fight AGAINST capitalism.
Indeed. Because people like you are telling them not to hope for anything. And especially to hate those like me who are trying to give them hope.
Wait .. so I'm right now telling you that we - the left - wants to fight and end capitalism and the rich.. but for you my thinking is somehow hegemonic because of media and billionaries think the same ?
Dude.. Are you that naive that you can't see the paradoxe here ?
For real ? No really !! ... Check back that sentence again.. think for with your reason and not your fears for once !
You are telling me that depise the fact that I tell you that I want to end capitalism and the rich, I think like a Billionaire ?
Are you freaking ok ?
Wait, how can someone insult anyone without saying any insults in any ways ?
I'm finally touching the fourth dimension of the brain of a conservatist. I'm finally touching the core contradictions of a defender of capitalism..
Somehow.. i'm the one who is hateful, antihuman rights, a clown, a retard, a stupid leftist (note the insults).. making your replying to each one of my post with another one and yet....
You keep avoiding replying to all my questions
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Its seems that you are not finished running from your fears...
The thing you are forgetting to notice, is that the one between me and you who is defending the way of life of Billionnaires.. is not me..
Its you.
You mean, meritocracy ? The system you are defending right now ? Yes, indeed. It prevent people from climbing the ladders of success.
Are you saying that there are people born superior and inferior here ?
Indeed, there are very rare exceptions where this is the case, but those people will most likely not become Billionaires, but scientists or artists.
Funny thing is.. even when such people exist, a natural gift is not enough for success.
So this argument is simply irrelevant.
No, not naturally.
If natural gift was enough to create enormous amounts of wealth, and if society was really equal to give a chance for all to shine... you wouldn't just see a few Billionaires, but millions and millions...
In your parrallel world where we human can surpass even creation and create success out of nothingness and our own will, you are completely underestimating the potential genius in humanity itself and crediting it only to a handfull of people.
We ALL have the potential to create enormous amounts of wealth in specific conditions.
Wait, you are telling me that since capitalism exist (since around the XVIIe century following some theories or since the end of the middle age following others) it has been systematically eradicating poverty all over the globe ?
Wait, so why is there still hardcore poverty then ?
Are you kissing your mother with this mouth ?
Do you really believe that lie ? Are you really that blind that you can't even see the level of poverty in your own country ? In the US ? In Europe ? In Africa ? Do you actually believe that capitalism is just "that slow".. and that its must "take time" ?
Are you really that naive ?
OMG.. You are completely missing the point...
Its not capitalism that allows me to heal in peace mate. That's what you are completely missunderstanding.
Its the socialist reforms FIGHTING capitalism that are allowing me to do that. Why do you think that the US don't have Health care but we do in France ? Its not the right and its not capitalism that allowed those progress.
Its the F*cking LEFT who arrived in power and made thing change. Its the fight AGAINST capitalism.
Indeed. Because people like you are telling them not to hope for anything. And especially to hate those like me who are trying to give them hope.
Wait .. so I'm right now telling you that we - the left - wants to fight and end capitalism and the rich.. but for you my thinking is somehow hegemonic because of media and billionaries think the same ?
Dude.. Are you that naive that you can't see the paradoxe here ?
For real ? No really !! ... Check back that sentence again.. think for with your reason and not your fears for once !
You are telling me that depise the fact that I tell you that I want to end capitalism and the rich, I think like a Billionaire ?
Are you freaking ok ?
Wait, how can someone insult anyone without saying any insults in any ways ?
I'm finally touching the fourth dimension of the brain of a conservatist. I'm finally touching the core contradictions of a defender of capitalism..
Somehow.. i'm the one who is hateful, antihuman rights, a clown, a retard, a stupid leftist (note the insults).. making your replying to each one of my post with another one and yet....
You keep avoiding replying to all my questions
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Its seems that you are not finished running from your fears...
1-I'm not defending billionaires. I'm defending the right of private property and accumulation of wealth.
2-Meritocracy is a thing. You might not like it because you are worthless and you don't like to work,but it is a thing. The market rewards those that offer value.
3-People have different skillsets and some are just off the charts. People get rich by working,saving and winning the game of free market.
4-Brazil is poor,because this is a socialist economy and country disguised as a free one. Lets not pretend Europe and the US don't play their cards to keep nations like these developing for ever. Your country still has colonies for example.
5-You are a nasty,bitch. Insults aren't only swear words,you clown. A bastard like you should not be mentioning anyone's mother.
6-I keep replying to your shit,because its entertaining to bait you. Its like giving candy to chimps in a zoo. We all know you have no one else to talk to and keep seeking validation here,because you are a lonely loser.
"Muh Carrot and Communism"
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To me you are a eunuch. I don't see you as a fellow man. How can one be unable to feed themselves,dream of a sugar daddy/pimp gov to turn your fellow countrymen into slaves,be unhealthy and lonely and still have the audacity to think you are something else other than a wortless parasite? I'm not a masochist or sodomite. I would rather die then become useless and immoral as you. I pity the likes of you.
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having more finnincial or social superiority does not equate to moral superiority
two different things
only a dipshit or someone dishonest would ever use superiority in one context ignoring all others
rich people are finnincially superior then me
that in no way means they intellectually or physically superior to me
same difference cause societal or social superiority is still superiority
racial supremacy is not the only form of supremacy
that's the flaw in your reasoning, asssuming that superiority has to be inherently racial
it lacks nuace cause it's formed by basis of idealogical reasons
x is right cause it's in the dogma of leftism, is the foundation of the reason anything is post hawk justifying that belief
valid reasons are based in some obeservable reality or commonly understood fact
if your gonna say but conservatives go based on their dogma too man
too people doing something wrong, does not make it okay
if two groups murder innocents, is murder now ok??
so saying women (germans) are opressed by men (jews)
but in reality, the germans (women) are better but it's that jewish (patriarchy) keeping them down
so we gotta tear those nasty jew goverments(men goverments) to stop their evil opression
it's the same shit dude
only differnce is the parties spoken upon
the german nazi of old uses the same logic as the femminists
using alleged vitchim status as a means to shame the opposition and to use that status of pity as means for power
you act like vitchim, but are the predator luring them in with pity
ohh look at poor german (women) feel sorry for them
maybe give them more power
your group is more nazi like then right wingers or me but somehow im facist.
it's optics to make you look better no different to christan fundamentlists of old shaming everything as satanist or communist
it's just now the left rules so instead of satan evil as a means of shaming, you use hitler as the new evil boogeyman to enforce ypur moral code
only difference now verus the nazi german days
is the internet existing and just laughing at the leftist pundits in media
if not for the internet, all society would be under your group's control hence the efforts to censor the internet
the problem is that most people arent going to have insane value
not everyone can be top tier scientists or athletes as example
most are going just exist as average dudes
ideally the system should work to help the majourity not a small group of a few greats and even then
within a couple generations weath passes on from parent to child
and the once merit based system falls apart cause im just better then you cause my grandfather was smarter or stronger then yours
resulting in a clear, upper class people born with the money and lower class born with nothing
it's not there of a male centered patriachy lol
it's a clear pattern of parent to child, weath transfer
loads of people are rich solely cause of the sucess of their parents
look at andrew tate, the self made top g
it turns out, his father was a world renouned chess champion and cia operertive
https://www.chessgames.com/player/emory_a_tate.html
https://www.chessgames.com/player/emory_a_tate.html
quite a ironic sitlaution considering his potrayal of a self made everyman who works for his shit unlike brokies
everyone who says their self made is bull shitting
back breaking labor
having to constantly be stoic and hold a certain perception of yourself to appear manly
never allowed to open up
that's less of a mental load then chores??
yea sure
suicide rates are higher among men, so that's just bs
men have more stress hence the higher suicdiality
dude no company gonna argue with randoms on twitter and fight desantis's potitical bills relating transgenderism in school if they dont personally buy into the poltics themselves
if it's just a money game then they would side with the right wing as it's more popluar in the internet sphere but because their rich buddies are all liberals
they also gotta be
dude, they fucking hired some random femminst advocate to direct a star wars movie, you think they did that cause the average joe gonna flock in droves to see it cause a femminst is involved
lol ofc not, it's done cause disney as a company holds left wing potical values
you just dislike that cause you wanna be some robin hood fight versus the system helping some opresssed people
it's some roleplay persona type shit, it's literally not how you come off to literally anybody
that's how you think you are but it's not consistent with reality
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correct take
litterally only argue on behalf of this issue cauae it's the onnly one, you are able to prove beyond shadow of a doubt
if the system worked to help poor people
white,black or otherwise
kinda flaw in poltics is that even if leftist is right
people too deep into it deny it solely cause the bad team did the claim same goes for right wingers
i cant accept that point, a nazi or commie said it
even if the person you think is a commie or nazi said something, that does not inherntly make them wrong
poverty and homelessness would not be a issue and yet it's a large one
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correct take
litterally only argue on behalf of this issue cauae it's the onnly one, you are able to prove beyond shadow of a doubt
if the system worked to help poor people
white,black or otherwise
kinda flaw in poltics is that even if leftist is right
people too deep into it deny it solely cause the bad team did the claim same goes for right wingers
i cant accept that point, a nazi or commie said it
even if the person you think is a commie or nazi said something, that does not inherntly make them wrong
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correct take
litterally only argue on behalf of this issue cauae it's the onnly one, you are able to prove beyond shadow of a doubt
if the system worked to help poor people
white,black or otherwise
kinda flaw in poltics is that even if leftist is right
people too deep into it deny it solely cause the bad team did the claim same goes for right wingers
i cant accept that point, a nazi or commie said it
even if the person you think is a commie or nazi said something, that does not inherntly make them wrong
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"socialist state of France" 
The level of ignorance is over 9000
exploit* you mean ? Not really, colonies times are over. Those who are exploiting African soils now are French Billionnaires (Vincent Bolloré for example), and the state (which is not socialist but ultra liberal and therefore ultra capitalist btw) is merely enabling him to do so.
Not me per say, but some french Millionaires do indeed, I tend to boycott their product.
It's funny how you are obsessed with the defense of capitalism but still finds a way to denounce what capitalism do : Exploitation of other's ressources.
Like I said... you live with a brain full of contradictions.. it can't be easy everyday hehehe
Oh I'm sure you did. Like I demonstrated, I'm the representation of what you fear the most : change. And not just change in term of progress, but yourself changing and becoming someone else. You are so afraid of letting go you myth and certainties about capitalism that you are force to live with tromendus contradictions in your own head.
I'm sure you still don't understand why I'm hating Macron's policy.
Which is the defense of the fact of becoming a Billionnaires. When I say that you are defending Billionaires I'm not saying that you defend the persons, I don't care about that. I'm saying that you defend their values. And that's exactly what you are doing :
Defending the right of private property and the accumulation of wealth, even to an unethical degree.
Its not. Sociologist have demonstrated that this concept is a myth.
The model of meritocracy exist, but it simply doesn't work. Precisely because the concept of merit is a myth.
Its not scientific, its not real. It's just a myth that you were educated in in order for you to stay in the economic position you are now and for the upper class to stay in theirs.
People are not poor because they don't merit anything, people are poor because powerful maintain them this way.
Until you understand this relationship of domination through economic, social and cultural capital, you won't understand anything about the way the world work and you will be forced to live in a world full of contradiction where you will be forced to rationnalize the fact that poor people, will defend the way of life of the Billionaires while those Billionaires are accumulating the wealth.
Its time for you to read some science. And I don't mean physics or biology. I mean social sciences.
No its doesn't. If the market did that, workers that kill themself (sometimes literally) during labor would be rewarded with an infinite amount of wealth. That's not what is happening. People who create values (workers) are not rewarded. Its those who are profiting from this values who are.
You live in capitalism and yet.. you are oblivious to capitalism..
Yes, it happens. But the majority of people are not rewarded based on the skills they have. If it was the case, millions of people would get enormous amounts of wealth.
That's only the myth that you were educated with. Its not how reality work. In reality people mostly get rich because of their economic, social and cultural capital. Its basic sociology mate... It doesn't take a geniuse to understand that.
Not at all lol. Your country just went through a huge ultra liberal and far right government. Its not poor because its socialist, its poor because your country is being exploited by greedy corporation, criminals affairs and bad reformism. Your country was build on the remains of colonialism and genocide that were drived by the premisses of capitalism, its not something you can just brush off.
Capitalism and ultra liberalism is one of the main reasons why your state is unable to rise from the ashes.
And that's precisely what I'm saying : Ultra liberalism and ultra capitalism are the reason why your country is not rising back. If your country was a real socialist one (and not just one or two years, but for at least two to three decades), and not parasited by corruption, you would actually see enormous positive changes.
Indeed. And treat them very badly. If you think that I will defend my country mate on colonialism or capitalism, your are completely oblivious...
I see.
Yes they are.
Charming.. You kiss your father with this mouth ?
Are you sure that I'm the one who is being baited here ?
I like chimps, chimps are cool.
Seeking validation by antagonizing the entire forum ? I'm not sure that is an efficient way to do that lmao
And yet.. you keep running from your fear.. I did triggered you a little here
Maybe you are not lost.
Your are talking about capitalism here ?
So much hate, I sure some fascist dictators would be proud of you here mate.
Well, I'm not judging. You do what you want in your spear time.
Immoral ? That much ?
Damn, that was not a little trigger
You are actually going all in.
Still running from your contradictions tho....
https://c.tenor.com/vQnT2Vx7zXMAAAAC/my-point-my-point-exactly.gif
Then don't use the words 'superior" or "inferior" without contect
There is no such thing as social superiority.
Indeed
Only you is talking about race here Einstein. You might not understanding it yet because you didn't live in a fascist country, but race is not the only factor of domination in a fascist state. There are plenty ways were powerfull people see themself as superior over other people. That's literally one of the parameters of fascism.
I was talking about ALL the factor here. Stop focusing on race only.
You lack reading comprehension and historical knowledges.
This sentences don't make any sences.
This: was your sentence. There were no mention of women and men. And please stop comparing those concepts. Its really not relevant and completely fallacious.
This doesn't even remotely compare to the systemic oppression women are facing. Its hard, granted, but this is just an effect of patriarchy. End patriarchy and you will end those expectations.
But you don't want to end Patriarchy, so you will be stuck for the rest of your life with those expectation.. too bad. I'm not.
Yes. Very less. Because what I didn't tell you is that women ALSO have the same thing you are denouncing for men. Women are expected to be silent, are expected to take care of themselves, are expected to appears as supportive and caring are expected to appear as innocent, are expected not to be slut, not to have a sexual live, not to have a great carrier.
As you can see, women have the same expectations that men do multiplied by 10. But they also have the entire mental load of men on their back. Adding that the fact that they are the principal victim of abuse and violences added to that that they are stripped for the access to position of power by institution created by men, added to that that they don't have a say in the way they manage their own bodies.. added to that (I can go on and on....)
You are so focused on men.. You don't see the struggles of women. A struggle that is a thousand time harder, but also more invisible, more pervasive, more taboo.
You see, when you talk about the struggles of men in society you will be treated a savior, but when you try to convince people that women are those who are oppressed then you are a filthy feminist.
You want to fight for men, good. They are also victim in a lesser way of patriarchy, But don't you ever dare deligitimize the struggles of women.
What you don't understand is that it doesn't mean that men are more oppressed, just that they kill themself more. This suicide rate is one of the symptoms of patriarchy that affect men. Men are expected to be strong and not seek help and therefore find themself on the end of the line.
But this is but another proof of the existence of patriarchy, not the contrary.
This doesn't negate the fact that women are still the prime victims of abuse under men's violences. It doesn't negate the fact that women only have access to secondary powers (with exceptions of course), it doesn't negate the fact that society is still ruled by men and men only.
How long will you run from this contradiction ? How long will you keep denouncing the symptoms of patriarchy while denying its existence ????
That's what you don't understand about liberals progressist.. Its better for their business to fight bigotry than to help them. Simply because they know that they are on the right side of history and therefore, their business will strive through the future.
Some might be progressist, but none will really do any real actions to help the leftist fights. In reality, we are on our own.
The goal is to bet on the future and the future is not the right wing. Also, you are overestimating the level of bigotry in the population.
Directors are not the ones in charge in America, producer are. Those who have the power are the producer. Those who are pushing for bad stories are the producers.
Being a feminist doesn't mean that she will do a bad job.
Only on surface. If those company were truly holding left wing political values you wouldn't see AT ALL the same movies.
To understand why, you ABSOLUTELY need to watch this video:
This is the take of a real leftist on what you think are leftist movies but really are not. Watch it, and try to understand the reality of the politics of those compagnies. (and watch the entierity of his channel btw, it will only do you good)
Well, I'm not Robin wood, but the left do indeed fight the same way.
How long will you try to make me look bad before you realize you are only making yourself look bad by trashing someone who tries to fight for the oppressed ?
And even if i'm roleplaying some sh*t (which I'm not but let's imagine) ? What the point in trashing me if I'm fighting for good if not to make yourself look better and rationalize the fact that you are actually fighting for the ideology of those in power who oppresses people ??
Because that's what you are trying to do here... wake up. realize. Be clever, think. You can do it and understand that you are fighting for the wrong side. Its never to late to realize.
Join me mate, become a REAL leftist
The level of ignorance is over 9000
exploit* you mean ? Not really, colonies times are over. Those who are exploiting African soils now are French Billionnaires (Vincent Bolloré for example), and the state (which is not socialist but ultra liberal and therefore ultra capitalist btw) is merely enabling him to do so.
Not me per say, but some french Millionaires do indeed, I tend to boycott their product.
It's funny how you are obsessed with the defense of capitalism but still finds a way to denounce what capitalism do : Exploitation of other's ressources.
Like I said... you live with a brain full of contradictions.. it can't be easy everyday hehehe
Oh I'm sure you did. Like I demonstrated, I'm the representation of what you fear the most : change. And not just change in term of progress, but yourself changing and becoming someone else. You are so afraid of letting go you myth and certainties about capitalism that you are force to live with tromendus contradictions in your own head.
I'm sure you still don't understand why I'm hating Macron's policy.
Which is the defense of the fact of becoming a Billionnaires. When I say that you are defending Billionaires I'm not saying that you defend the persons, I don't care about that. I'm saying that you defend their values. And that's exactly what you are doing :
Defending the right of private property and the accumulation of wealth, even to an unethical degree.
Its not. Sociologist have demonstrated that this concept is a myth.
The model of meritocracy exist, but it simply doesn't work. Precisely because the concept of merit is a myth.
Its not scientific, its not real. It's just a myth that you were educated in in order for you to stay in the economic position you are now and for the upper class to stay in theirs.
People are not poor because they don't merit anything, people are poor because powerful maintain them this way.
Until you understand this relationship of domination through economic, social and cultural capital, you won't understand anything about the way the world work and you will be forced to live in a world full of contradiction where you will be forced to rationnalize the fact that poor people, will defend the way of life of the Billionaires while those Billionaires are accumulating the wealth.
Its time for you to read some science. And I don't mean physics or biology. I mean social sciences.
No its doesn't. If the market did that, workers that kill themself (sometimes literally) during labor would be rewarded with an infinite amount of wealth. That's not what is happening. People who create values (workers) are not rewarded. Its those who are profiting from this values who are.
You live in capitalism and yet.. you are oblivious to capitalism..
Yes, it happens. But the majority of people are not rewarded based on the skills they have. If it was the case, millions of people would get enormous amounts of wealth.
That's only the myth that you were educated with. Its not how reality work. In reality people mostly get rich because of their economic, social and cultural capital. Its basic sociology mate... It doesn't take a geniuse to understand that.
Not at all lol. Your country just went through a huge ultra liberal and far right government. Its not poor because its socialist, its poor because your country is being exploited by greedy corporation, criminals affairs and bad reformism. Your country was build on the remains of colonialism and genocide that were drived by the premisses of capitalism, its not something you can just brush off.
Capitalism and ultra liberalism is one of the main reasons why your state is unable to rise from the ashes.
And that's precisely what I'm saying : Ultra liberalism and ultra capitalism are the reason why your country is not rising back. If your country was a real socialist one (and not just one or two years, but for at least two to three decades), and not parasited by corruption, you would actually see enormous positive changes.
Indeed. And treat them very badly. If you think that I will defend my country mate on colonialism or capitalism, your are completely oblivious...
I see.
Yes they are.
Charming.. You kiss your father with this mouth ?
Are you sure that I'm the one who is being baited here ?
I like chimps, chimps are cool.
Seeking validation by antagonizing the entire forum ? I'm not sure that is an efficient way to do that lmao
And yet.. you keep running from your fear.. I did triggered you a little here
Maybe you are not lost.
Your are talking about capitalism here ?
So much hate, I sure some fascist dictators would be proud of you here mate.
Well, I'm not judging. You do what you want in your spear time.
Immoral ? That much ?
Damn, that was not a little trigger
You are actually going all in.
Still running from your contradictions tho....
https://c.tenor.com/vQnT2Vx7zXMAAAAC/my-point-my-point-exactly.gif
Then don't use the words 'superior" or "inferior" without contect
There is no such thing as social superiority.
Indeed
Only you is talking about race here Einstein. You might not understanding it yet because you didn't live in a fascist country, but race is not the only factor of domination in a fascist state. There are plenty ways were powerfull people see themself as superior over other people. That's literally one of the parameters of fascism.
I was talking about ALL the factor here. Stop focusing on race only.
You lack reading comprehension and historical knowledges.
This sentences don't make any sences.
This: was your sentence. There were no mention of women and men. And please stop comparing those concepts. Its really not relevant and completely fallacious.
This doesn't even remotely compare to the systemic oppression women are facing. Its hard, granted, but this is just an effect of patriarchy. End patriarchy and you will end those expectations.
But you don't want to end Patriarchy, so you will be stuck for the rest of your life with those expectation.. too bad. I'm not.
Yes. Very less. Because what I didn't tell you is that women ALSO have the same thing you are denouncing for men. Women are expected to be silent, are expected to take care of themselves, are expected to appears as supportive and caring are expected to appear as innocent, are expected not to be slut, not to have a sexual live, not to have a great carrier.
As you can see, women have the same expectations that men do multiplied by 10. But they also have the entire mental load of men on their back. Adding that the fact that they are the principal victim of abuse and violences added to that that they are stripped for the access to position of power by institution created by men, added to that that they don't have a say in the way they manage their own bodies.. added to that (I can go on and on....)
You are so focused on men.. You don't see the struggles of women. A struggle that is a thousand time harder, but also more invisible, more pervasive, more taboo.
You see, when you talk about the struggles of men in society you will be treated a savior, but when you try to convince people that women are those who are oppressed then you are a filthy feminist.
You want to fight for men, good. They are also victim in a lesser way of patriarchy, But don't you ever dare deligitimize the struggles of women.
What you don't understand is that it doesn't mean that men are more oppressed, just that they kill themself more. This suicide rate is one of the symptoms of patriarchy that affect men. Men are expected to be strong and not seek help and therefore find themself on the end of the line.
But this is but another proof of the existence of patriarchy, not the contrary.
This doesn't negate the fact that women are still the prime victims of abuse under men's violences. It doesn't negate the fact that women only have access to secondary powers (with exceptions of course), it doesn't negate the fact that society is still ruled by men and men only.
How long will you run from this contradiction ? How long will you keep denouncing the symptoms of patriarchy while denying its existence ????
That's what you don't understand about liberals progressist.. Its better for their business to fight bigotry than to help them. Simply because they know that they are on the right side of history and therefore, their business will strive through the future.
Some might be progressist, but none will really do any real actions to help the leftist fights. In reality, we are on our own.
The goal is to bet on the future and the future is not the right wing. Also, you are overestimating the level of bigotry in the population.
Directors are not the ones in charge in America, producer are. Those who have the power are the producer. Those who are pushing for bad stories are the producers.
Being a feminist doesn't mean that she will do a bad job.
Only on surface. If those company were truly holding left wing political values you wouldn't see AT ALL the same movies.
To understand why, you ABSOLUTELY need to watch this video:
This is the take of a real leftist on what you think are leftist movies but really are not. Watch it, and try to understand the reality of the politics of those compagnies. (and watch the entierity of his channel btw, it will only do you good)
Well, I'm not Robin wood, but the left do indeed fight the same way.
How long will you try to make me look bad before you realize you are only making yourself look bad by trashing someone who tries to fight for the oppressed ?
And even if i'm roleplaying some sh*t (which I'm not but let's imagine) ? What the point in trashing me if I'm fighting for good if not to make yourself look better and rationalize the fact that you are actually fighting for the ideology of those in power who oppresses people ??
Because that's what you are trying to do here... wake up. realize. Be clever, think. You can do it and understand that you are fighting for the wrong side. Its never to late to realize.
Join me mate, become a REAL leftist
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There is no way you know more about the politics of our country than us.
What is your definition of liberal and far right to claim that we were?
Bolsonaro does have far right claims as be pro Militar governament that we had 60 years ago. But it is way different from having a leader that has those claims than he actually doing anything in favor of it.
Our country has a huge political instability because of the Supreme Court of Justice that is doing everything that they can (and shouldn't but do anyway even if it is against the constitution they swear to defend) to harm his governament because he was going against the system that make sure our country never develops and always sustain the deep state.
We did some steps towards the right and libertarianism (I don't like the liberal term because of the US liberals) but still that doesn't mean Bolsonaro is libertarian or even far right.
He is very in favor of populism. He used to be in favor of the left in his early years as politician. I would say he just went to the right because of the corruption of the left. Being a militar doesn't automatically makes you a right wing even less far right. There are a bunch of left wing on military.
What is your definition of liberal and far right to claim that we were?
Bolsonaro does have far right claims as be pro Militar governament that we had 60 years ago. But it is way different from having a leader that has those claims than he actually doing anything in favor of it.
Our country has a huge political instability because of the Supreme Court of Justice that is doing everything that they can (and shouldn't but do anyway even if it is against the constitution they swear to defend) to harm his governament because he was going against the system that make sure our country never develops and always sustain the deep state.
We did some steps towards the right and libertarianism (I don't like the liberal term because of the US liberals) but still that doesn't mean Bolsonaro is libertarian or even far right.
He is very in favor of populism. He used to be in favor of the left in his early years as politician. I would say he just went to the right because of the corruption of the left. Being a militar doesn't automatically makes you a right wing even less far right. There are a bunch of left wing on military.
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I'm slowly starting to hate the left, not gonna lie
not because of it's ideals and concepts, but because of how the people that speak for it and how they hide behind those ideals to push what they truly believe in
like modern day feminism for example, born out of necessity in search for equal rights for women, but now dominated by misandry and a deep wish to see men suffer
not because of it's ideals and concepts, but because of how the people that speak for it and how they hide behind those ideals to push what they truly believe in
like modern day feminism for example, born out of necessity in search for equal rights for women, but now dominated by misandry and a deep wish to see men suffer
The military government itself had a lot of left wing influence in its policies.
Dig more into it and you will the people that have been historically behind this movement have all been despicable.
I'm not reading all this shit.This long texts just proves that you really have a lot of spare time in your hands with not much else to do.
Dig more into it and you will the people that have been historically behind this movement have all been despicable.
"socialist state of France"
The level of ignorance is over 9000
exploit* you mean ? Not really, colonies times are over. Those who are exploiting African soils now are French Billionnaires (Vincent Bolloré for example), and the state (which is not socialist but ultra liberal and therefore ultra capitalist btw) is merely enabling him to do so.
Not me per say, but some french Millionaires do indeed, I tend to boycott their product.
It's funny how you are obsessed with the defense of capitalism but still finds a way to denounce what capitalism do : Exploitation of other's ressources.
Like I said... you live with a brain full of contradictions.. it can't be easy everyday hehehe
Oh I'm sure you did. Like I demonstrated, I'm the representation of what you fear the most : change. And not just change in term of progress, but yourself changing and becoming someone else. You are so afraid of letting go you myth and certainties about capitalism that you are force to live with tromendus contradictions in your own head.
I'm sure you still don't understand why I'm hating Macron's policy.
Which is the defense of the fact of becoming a Billionnaires. When I say that you are defending Billionaires I'm not saying that you defend the persons, I don't care about that. I'm saying that you defend their values. And that's exactly what you are doing :
Defending the right of private property and the accumulation of wealth, even to an unethical degree.
Its not. Sociologist have demonstrated that this concept is a myth.
The model of meritocracy exist, but it simply doesn't work. Precisely because the concept of merit is a myth.
Its not scientific, its not real. It's just a myth that you were educated in in order for you to stay in the economic position you are now and for the upper class to stay in theirs.
People are not poor because they don't merit anything, people are poor because powerful maintain them this way.
Until you understand this relationship of domination through economic, social and cultural capital, you won't understand anything about the way the world work and you will be forced to live in a world full of contradiction where you will be forced to rationnalize the fact that poor people, will defend the way of life of the Billionaires while those Billionaires are accumulating the wealth.
Its time for you to read some science. And I don't mean physics or biology. I mean social sciences.
No its doesn't. If the market did that, workers that kill themself (sometimes literally) during labor would be rewarded with an infinite amount of wealth. That's not what is happening. People who create values (workers) are not rewarded. Its those who are profiting from this values who are.
You live in capitalism and yet.. you are oblivious to capitalism..
Yes, it happens. But the majority of people are not rewarded based on the skills they have. If it was the case, millions of people would get enormous amounts of wealth.
That's only the myth that you were educated with. Its not how reality work. In reality people mostly get rich because of their economic, social and cultural capital. Its basic sociology mate... It doesn't take a geniuse to understand that.
Not at all lol. Your country just went through a huge ultra liberal and far right government. Its not poor because its socialist, its poor because your country is being exploited by greedy corporation, criminals affairs and bad reformism. Your country was build on the remains of colonialism and genocide that were drived by the premisses of capitalism, its not something you can just brush off.
Capitalism and ultra liberalism is one of the main reasons why your state is unable to rise from the ashes.
And that's precisely what I'm saying : Ultra liberalism and ultra capitalism are the reason why your country is not rising back. If your country was a real socialist one (and not just one or two years, but for at least two to three decades), and not parasited by corruption, you would actually see enormous positive changes.
Indeed. And treat them very badly. If you think that I will defend my country mate on colonialism or capitalism, your are completely oblivious...
I see.
Yes they are.
Charming.. You kiss your father with this mouth ?
Are you sure that I'm the one who is being baited here ?
I like chimps, chimps are cool.
Seeking validation by antagonizing the entire forum ? I'm not sure that is an efficient way to do that lmao
And yet.. you keep running from your fear.. I did triggered you a little here
Maybe you are not lost.
Your are talking about capitalism here ?
So much hate, I sure some fascist dictators would be proud of you here mate.
Well, I'm not judging. You do what you want in your spear time.
Immoral ? That much ?
Damn, that was not a little trigger
You are actually going all in.
Still running from your contradictions tho....
https://c.tenor.com/vQnT2Vx7zXMAAAAC/my-point-my-point-exactly.gif
Then don't use the words 'superior" or "inferior" without contect
There is no such thing as social superiority.
Indeed
Only you is talking about race here Einstein. You might not understanding it yet because you didn't live in a fascist country, but race is not the only factor of domination in a fascist state. There are plenty ways were powerfull people see themself as superior over other people. That's literally one of the parameters of fascism.
I was talking about ALL the factor here. Stop focusing on race only.
You lack reading comprehension and historical knowledges.
This sentences don't make any sences.
This: was your sentence. There were no mention of women and men. And please stop comparing those concepts. Its really not relevant and completely fallacious.
This doesn't even remotely compare to the systemic oppression women are facing. Its hard, granted, but this is just an effect of patriarchy. End patriarchy and you will end those expectations.
But you don't want to end Patriarchy, so you will be stuck for the rest of your life with those expectation.. too bad. I'm not.
Yes. Very less. Because what I didn't tell you is that women ALSO have the same thing you are denouncing for men. Women are expected to be silent, are expected to take care of themselves, are expected to appears as supportive and caring are expected to appear as innocent, are expected not to be slut, not to have a sexual live, not to have a great carrier.
As you can see, women have the same expectations that men do multiplied by 10. But they also have the entire mental load of men on their back. Adding that the fact that they are the principal victim of abuse and violences added to that that they are stripped for the access to position of power by institution created by men, added to that that they don't have a say in the way they manage their own bodies.. added to that (I can go on and on....)
You are so focused on men.. You don't see the struggles of women. A struggle that is a thousand time harder, but also more invisible, more pervasive, more taboo.
You see, when you talk about the struggles of men in society you will be treated a savior, but when you try to convince people that women are those who are oppressed then you are a filthy feminist.
You want to fight for men, good. They are also victim in a lesser way of patriarchy, But don't you ever dare deligitimize the struggles of women.
What you don't understand is that it doesn't mean that men are more oppressed, just that they kill themself more. This suicide rate is one of the symptoms of patriarchy that affect men. Men are expected to be strong and not seek help and therefore find themself on the end of the line.
But this is but another proof of the existence of patriarchy, not the contrary.
This doesn't negate the fact that women are still the prime victims of abuse under men's violences. It doesn't negate the fact that women only have access to secondary powers (with exceptions of course), it doesn't negate the fact that society is still ruled by men and men only.
How long will you run from this contradiction ? How long will you keep denouncing the symptoms of patriarchy while denying its existence ????
That's what you don't understand about liberals progressist.. Its better for their business to fight bigotry than to help them. Simply because they know that they are on the right side of history and therefore, their business will strive through the future.
Some might be progressist, but none will really do any real actions to help the leftist fights. In reality, we are on our own.
The goal is to bet on the future and the future is not the right wing. Also, you are overestimating the level of bigotry in the population.
Directors are not the ones in charge in America, producer are. Those who have the power are the producer. Those who are pushing for bad stories are the producers.
Being a feminist doesn't mean that she will do a bad job.
Only on surface. If those company were truly holding left wing political values you wouldn't see AT ALL the same movies.
To understand why, you ABSOLUTELY need to watch this video:
This is the take of a real leftist on what you think are leftist movies but really are not. Watch it, and try to understand the reality of the politics of those compagnies. (and watch the entierity of his channel btw, it will only do you good)
Well, I'm not Robin wood, but the left do indeed fight the same way.
How long will you try to make me look bad before you realize you are only making yourself look bad by trashing someone who tries to fight for the oppressed ?
And even if i'm roleplaying some sh*t (which I'm not but let's imagine) ? What the point in trashing me if I'm fighting for good if not to make yourself look better and rationalize the fact that you are actually fighting for the ideology of those in power who oppresses people ??
Because that's what you are trying to do here... wake up. realize. Be clever, think. You can do it and understand that you are fighting for the wrong side. Its never to late to realize.
Join me mate, become a REAL leftist
The level of ignorance is over 9000
exploit* you mean ? Not really, colonies times are over. Those who are exploiting African soils now are French Billionnaires (Vincent Bolloré for example), and the state (which is not socialist but ultra liberal and therefore ultra capitalist btw) is merely enabling him to do so.
Not me per say, but some french Millionaires do indeed, I tend to boycott their product.
It's funny how you are obsessed with the defense of capitalism but still finds a way to denounce what capitalism do : Exploitation of other's ressources.
Like I said... you live with a brain full of contradictions.. it can't be easy everyday hehehe
Oh I'm sure you did. Like I demonstrated, I'm the representation of what you fear the most : change. And not just change in term of progress, but yourself changing and becoming someone else. You are so afraid of letting go you myth and certainties about capitalism that you are force to live with tromendus contradictions in your own head.
I'm sure you still don't understand why I'm hating Macron's policy.
Which is the defense of the fact of becoming a Billionnaires. When I say that you are defending Billionaires I'm not saying that you defend the persons, I don't care about that. I'm saying that you defend their values. And that's exactly what you are doing :
Defending the right of private property and the accumulation of wealth, even to an unethical degree.
Its not. Sociologist have demonstrated that this concept is a myth.
The model of meritocracy exist, but it simply doesn't work. Precisely because the concept of merit is a myth.
Its not scientific, its not real. It's just a myth that you were educated in in order for you to stay in the economic position you are now and for the upper class to stay in theirs.
People are not poor because they don't merit anything, people are poor because powerful maintain them this way.
Until you understand this relationship of domination through economic, social and cultural capital, you won't understand anything about the way the world work and you will be forced to live in a world full of contradiction where you will be forced to rationnalize the fact that poor people, will defend the way of life of the Billionaires while those Billionaires are accumulating the wealth.
Its time for you to read some science. And I don't mean physics or biology. I mean social sciences.
No its doesn't. If the market did that, workers that kill themself (sometimes literally) during labor would be rewarded with an infinite amount of wealth. That's not what is happening. People who create values (workers) are not rewarded. Its those who are profiting from this values who are.
You live in capitalism and yet.. you are oblivious to capitalism..
Yes, it happens. But the majority of people are not rewarded based on the skills they have. If it was the case, millions of people would get enormous amounts of wealth.
That's only the myth that you were educated with. Its not how reality work. In reality people mostly get rich because of their economic, social and cultural capital. Its basic sociology mate... It doesn't take a geniuse to understand that.
Not at all lol. Your country just went through a huge ultra liberal and far right government. Its not poor because its socialist, its poor because your country is being exploited by greedy corporation, criminals affairs and bad reformism. Your country was build on the remains of colonialism and genocide that were drived by the premisses of capitalism, its not something you can just brush off.
Capitalism and ultra liberalism is one of the main reasons why your state is unable to rise from the ashes.
And that's precisely what I'm saying : Ultra liberalism and ultra capitalism are the reason why your country is not rising back. If your country was a real socialist one (and not just one or two years, but for at least two to three decades), and not parasited by corruption, you would actually see enormous positive changes.
Indeed. And treat them very badly. If you think that I will defend my country mate on colonialism or capitalism, your are completely oblivious...
I see.
Yes they are.
Charming.. You kiss your father with this mouth ?
Are you sure that I'm the one who is being baited here ?
I like chimps, chimps are cool.
Seeking validation by antagonizing the entire forum ? I'm not sure that is an efficient way to do that lmao
And yet.. you keep running from your fear.. I did triggered you a little here
Maybe you are not lost.
Your are talking about capitalism here ?
So much hate, I sure some fascist dictators would be proud of you here mate.
Well, I'm not judging. You do what you want in your spear time.
Immoral ? That much ?
Damn, that was not a little trigger
You are actually going all in.
Still running from your contradictions tho....
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Then don't use the words 'superior" or "inferior" without contect
There is no such thing as social superiority.
Indeed
Only you is talking about race here Einstein. You might not understanding it yet because you didn't live in a fascist country, but race is not the only factor of domination in a fascist state. There are plenty ways were powerfull people see themself as superior over other people. That's literally one of the parameters of fascism.
I was talking about ALL the factor here. Stop focusing on race only.
You lack reading comprehension and historical knowledges.
This sentences don't make any sences.
This: was your sentence. There were no mention of women and men. And please stop comparing those concepts. Its really not relevant and completely fallacious.
This doesn't even remotely compare to the systemic oppression women are facing. Its hard, granted, but this is just an effect of patriarchy. End patriarchy and you will end those expectations.
But you don't want to end Patriarchy, so you will be stuck for the rest of your life with those expectation.. too bad. I'm not.
Yes. Very less. Because what I didn't tell you is that women ALSO have the same thing you are denouncing for men. Women are expected to be silent, are expected to take care of themselves, are expected to appears as supportive and caring are expected to appear as innocent, are expected not to be slut, not to have a sexual live, not to have a great carrier.
As you can see, women have the same expectations that men do multiplied by 10. But they also have the entire mental load of men on their back. Adding that the fact that they are the principal victim of abuse and violences added to that that they are stripped for the access to position of power by institution created by men, added to that that they don't have a say in the way they manage their own bodies.. added to that (I can go on and on....)
You are so focused on men.. You don't see the struggles of women. A struggle that is a thousand time harder, but also more invisible, more pervasive, more taboo.
You see, when you talk about the struggles of men in society you will be treated a savior, but when you try to convince people that women are those who are oppressed then you are a filthy feminist.
You want to fight for men, good. They are also victim in a lesser way of patriarchy, But don't you ever dare deligitimize the struggles of women.
What you don't understand is that it doesn't mean that men are more oppressed, just that they kill themself more. This suicide rate is one of the symptoms of patriarchy that affect men. Men are expected to be strong and not seek help and therefore find themself on the end of the line.
But this is but another proof of the existence of patriarchy, not the contrary.
This doesn't negate the fact that women are still the prime victims of abuse under men's violences. It doesn't negate the fact that women only have access to secondary powers (with exceptions of course), it doesn't negate the fact that society is still ruled by men and men only.
How long will you run from this contradiction ? How long will you keep denouncing the symptoms of patriarchy while denying its existence ????
That's what you don't understand about liberals progressist.. Its better for their business to fight bigotry than to help them. Simply because they know that they are on the right side of history and therefore, their business will strive through the future.
Some might be progressist, but none will really do any real actions to help the leftist fights. In reality, we are on our own.
The goal is to bet on the future and the future is not the right wing. Also, you are overestimating the level of bigotry in the population.
Directors are not the ones in charge in America, producer are. Those who have the power are the producer. Those who are pushing for bad stories are the producers.
Being a feminist doesn't mean that she will do a bad job.
Only on surface. If those company were truly holding left wing political values you wouldn't see AT ALL the same movies.
To understand why, you ABSOLUTELY need to watch this video:
This is the take of a real leftist on what you think are leftist movies but really are not. Watch it, and try to understand the reality of the politics of those compagnies. (and watch the entierity of his channel btw, it will only do you good)
Well, I'm not Robin wood, but the left do indeed fight the same way.
How long will you try to make me look bad before you realize you are only making yourself look bad by trashing someone who tries to fight for the oppressed ?
And even if i'm roleplaying some sh*t (which I'm not but let's imagine) ? What the point in trashing me if I'm fighting for good if not to make yourself look better and rationalize the fact that you are actually fighting for the ideology of those in power who oppresses people ??
Because that's what you are trying to do here... wake up. realize. Be clever, think. You can do it and understand that you are fighting for the wrong side. Its never to late to realize.
Join me mate, become a REAL leftist
"socialist state of France"
Not at all lol. Your country just went through a huge ultra liberal and far right government. Its not poor because its socialist, its poor because your country is being exploited by greedy corporation, criminals affairs and bad reformism. Your country was build on the remains of colonialism and genocide that were drived by the premisses of capitalism, its not something you can just brush off.
Capitalism and ultra liberalism is one of the main reasons why your state is unable to rise from the ashes.
And that's precisely what I'm saying : Ultra liberalism and ultra capitalism are the reason why your country is not rising back. If your country was a real socialist one (and not just one or two years, but for at least two to three decades), and not parasited by corruption, you would actually see enormous positive changes.
Not at all lol. Your country just went through a huge ultra liberal and far right government. Its not poor because its socialist, its poor because your country is being exploited by greedy corporation, criminals affairs and bad reformism. Your country was build on the remains of colonialism and genocide that were drived by the premisses of capitalism, its not something you can just brush off.
Capitalism and ultra liberalism is one of the main reasons why your state is unable to rise from the ashes.
And that's precisely what I'm saying : Ultra liberalism and ultra capitalism are the reason why your country is not rising back. If your country was a real socialist one (and not just one or two years, but for at least two to three decades), and not parasited by corruption, you would actually see enormous positive changes.
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Yyep,but who has a body count of over 100 million in the past 100 years?This people are still out here killing people.
That's just another way to say that you don't really like the ideals and concepts mate. If you think leftist hide something, then you don't believe leftism as a legitimate ideology.
And voilà.. a proof that you don't in fact like the ideals.
If you were really liking the ideals of leftism, you would know that there is no such thing as misandry, that people don't want to see men suffer etc. What you really like is not leftist ideas.
Its the vision that the right wing conservative have on leftist ideas.
You are not "starting" to hate leftism. You always hated leftism. Be real with yourself.
In your case, when you defend a far right government, when you defend anti woke and bigotry, when you deny a genocide etc.
Then you are far right mate.
And yet he is. I will not debate on that. If you can't see the problem with you own system I can't do anything for you.
Yes, and many ultra liberals conservatist were also on the left in my country before they got corrupted by their mythological vision of merit and their fear of others.
Being once on the left doesn't negate the fact that you can become a bigot.
Actually yes it does. Leftism is foundamentally anti militarist unless there are very specific reason (like fighting fascism for example). The left is also an anti identitarism ideology, which means that it will be very unlikely for you to be a leftist and still wake up evrymorning to salute the "great values" of the identity of the nation.
But hey.. maybe I'm wrong. You want to be sure if those people are leftist or not ? Ask them if everyhuman are born equal in term of access to wealth.
Still constructing your own fantasy world where leftists are all the sources of the problems of the world I see.
You are still running...
And ? Does it make it illegitimate ? Or are you afraid to face change ?
Note that Swiss were so neutral during the war, that they helped Nazis during the war..
Careful because 100% the time, the neutral side is actually the side of the oppressors.
Most likely not. The guy is a far right populist. That's all he is.
Not really no. It was an ultra liberal conservatist and securitary policy.
But keep dreaming about your imaginary leftist world where even the worst bigot and ultra capitalist are actually leftist. I'm sure you won't fall from very high once you will detox from that fallacious ideology....
Are you saying that we shouldn't bad mouth the people who created a genocide that killed more than 70 Millions people ? Are you freaking sane ?
Well... your true colors are starting to shine here... A bigot, a far rightist and a genocide defenser.. Not really better than Herrera here. Actually a little bit worse in this case..
Well, unless you descend from a long line of south europeean genealogy that was not mixed with natives of Brasil.. then yes, you do mate...
No. That's just the fantasy you invent to deny the fact that your country is capitalist and the lie you create for yourself to rationnalize the fact that poor people are dreaming about working for powerfull ones...
It was never really socialist.. it has been capitalist from the day Pedro Alvares Cabral set foot on Brazil. (well, its was just the premisses of capitalism and that stage, but that's similar)
If you are your country is poor. Its because of us mate. Its because of the early stages of capitalism, the colonization of the lands of the native south americans, and the genocide that followed.
And voilà.. a proof that you don't in fact like the ideals.
If you were really liking the ideals of leftism, you would know that there is no such thing as misandry, that people don't want to see men suffer etc. What you really like is not leftist ideas.
Its the vision that the right wing conservative have on leftist ideas.
You are not "starting" to hate leftism. You always hated leftism. Be real with yourself.
In your case, when you defend a far right government, when you defend anti woke and bigotry, when you deny a genocide etc.
Then you are far right mate.
And yet he is. I will not debate on that. If you can't see the problem with you own system I can't do anything for you.
Yes, and many ultra liberals conservatist were also on the left in my country before they got corrupted by their mythological vision of merit and their fear of others.
Being once on the left doesn't negate the fact that you can become a bigot.
Actually yes it does. Leftism is foundamentally anti militarist unless there are very specific reason (like fighting fascism for example). The left is also an anti identitarism ideology, which means that it will be very unlikely for you to be a leftist and still wake up evrymorning to salute the "great values" of the identity of the nation.
But hey.. maybe I'm wrong. You want to be sure if those people are leftist or not ? Ask them if everyhuman are born equal in term of access to wealth.
Still constructing your own fantasy world where leftists are all the sources of the problems of the world I see.
You are still running...
And ? Does it make it illegitimate ? Or are you afraid to face change ?
Note that Swiss were so neutral during the war, that they helped Nazis during the war..
Careful because 100% the time, the neutral side is actually the side of the oppressors.
Most likely not. The guy is a far right populist. That's all he is.
Not really no. It was an ultra liberal conservatist and securitary policy.
But keep dreaming about your imaginary leftist world where even the worst bigot and ultra capitalist are actually leftist. I'm sure you won't fall from very high once you will detox from that fallacious ideology....
Are you saying that we shouldn't bad mouth the people who created a genocide that killed more than 70 Millions people ? Are you freaking sane ?
Well... your true colors are starting to shine here... A bigot, a far rightist and a genocide defenser.. Not really better than Herrera here. Actually a little bit worse in this case..
Well, unless you descend from a long line of south europeean genealogy that was not mixed with natives of Brasil.. then yes, you do mate...
No. That's just the fantasy you invent to deny the fact that your country is capitalist and the lie you create for yourself to rationnalize the fact that poor people are dreaming about working for powerfull ones...
It was never really socialist.. it has been capitalist from the day Pedro Alvares Cabral set foot on Brazil. (well, its was just the premisses of capitalism and that stage, but that's similar)
If you are your country is poor. Its because of us mate. Its because of the early stages of capitalism, the colonization of the lands of the native south americans, and the genocide that followed.
I
a prime example of what i mean
if you didn't remember my name, i've been on your side quite a few times in here
i agree with pretty much every single left idea you can think off, pro-choice, gun control, you name it
and yet you completely disregard an entire person and decide that i'm right wing conservative
so fucking stupid, you're the prime example of what the left looks like to me right now
and misandry, 100% exists
the actual misandry, as is defined
not the version you only want to accept, that is based on institutional and based on oppresion
simple, pure, hatred of men exists and is doing quite well today
i see it everyday
if you didn't remember my name, i've been on your side quite a few times in here
i agree with pretty much every single left idea you can think off, pro-choice, gun control, you name it
and yet you completely disregard an entire person and decide that i'm right wing conservative
so fucking stupid, you're the prime example of what the left looks like to me right now
and misandry, 100% exists
the actual misandry, as is defined
not the version you only want to accept, that is based on institutional and based on oppresion
simple, pure, hatred of men exists and is doing quite well today
i see it everyday