Unfortunately, it's not "twitter feminism"

I talk to women every single day, i study with them, i work with them and i live with them

i was raised alongside two older and sisters and by my mother

i've talked countless times with them about society and their experiences

i'm studying accounting as a second degree, with has a much better balance of gender representation on each class compared to the reality of Computer Science i experienced before

I work on a project lead by incredible teachers (women) who have experience in the field for over 30 years

No matter the age or the level of education, women have adopted some level of hatred torwards men

and that is completely logical, i understand why they think they do, personal experiences create a shadow over their view of the entire group of people

all their experiences are valid

the problem is when Feminism is based on equality for all, but today is spoken in a way as to complete attack men, there won't be any good results

my entire point is that the left is pushing men, especially young men, to the center or the right because of it

and the left is refusing to even acknowledge this or think about ways to solve it
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Not even close, but give it 10 years and it's gonna be a massive fucking headache to everyone
Its the old marxist tatic of dividing people. Back in the day it was about class,now its about gender/sex.
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Mmosst postts inn tthis thrreadd arre sttuppid.


-sincerely, a Eurroppeann
Including yours?
 
Are teachers above students in hierarchy?
There is not hierarchy between studients and children unless you are in a military school. Studients are not the employee or the soldiers of teachers.


what nameless posted:


what logiko quoted:
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Are there laws in the US to prohibit genocide denial ? And who decides which event is a genocide ? The Supreme Court that is pro-Trump ? Or just « ethics » ?
In France we have a Law that prevent the denial of the "shoah". But only this one genocide. There is no laws against the denial of what we did in Africa for example. Concerning the definition, A genocide is something that was defined as followed by the UN:

"
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

- Killing members of the group;
- Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
- Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
- Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
- Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group
"
https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml#:~:text=To constitute genocide, there must,to simply disperse a group.


No matter the age or the level of education, women have adopted some level of hatred torwards men
Its not hatred, its frustration. They are an oppressed group and we are the oppressors. Its logical for them to feel completely frustrated by what they live.

the problem is when Feminism is based on equality for all, but today is spoken in a way as to complete attack men, there won't be any good results
Its not. Its really not. When we see "we need less white men" in structures of power (for example). This is NOT an attack, this is factual. We need less white men in structures of power because the fact that we have so much is proven to be hurtfull because this is a priviledged class of people. There are reasons why women explains and target the powers of men. If you don't understand that, then you still have room to understand really what leftism is about.

We don't attack men, we explains that men have ALL the power and in this patriarcal society, its hurting EVERYONE.


my entire point is that the left is pushing men, especially young men, to the center or the right because of it
Its not us who pushes those men toward bigotry, its the far right, confusionnist and anti woke people who are doing everything to convince them and suceeding.

We already tried to be nice and pedagogue with everyone. Its not working. Being nice and giving scientific data to a person that don't want to listen is USELESS. People don't go to the far right and confusionnist anti woke side because they were not convinced, people go there because they ALREADY HAD SEXIST/RACIST/CAPITALIST value in them.

And the reason is simple : its all about the capitals of those person in the first place. What I explained to you in my previous post. If you don't understand this basic sociologic principle you will not understand the left.

People who are already priviledged will not naturally question their place of priviledge.

and the left is refusing to even acknowledge this or think about ways to solve it
This is the complete opposite. We know how to change things and we propose things. But we are not heard simply because the conservative right and the liberals prevent us from accessing to power. So yes, we scream.


Death doesn't mean they were all massacred
No indeed, they were also killed by disease, sometimes transmitted even intentionnaly by europeeans. The rest were massacred.

Europpean colonization only accelerated this process by adding a pathogenical component to the tragedy.
Not it didn't "only" do that. THe massacre is a documented fact. This was a genocide through and through. The biggest in human history.

And you keep denying it.


The exact number of people killed by europpean settlers is unknow,but the estimate is into thousands to millions. I knew you would misunderstand that quote before i logged off.
I didn't missunderstand anything. That quote is explaning the same thing that i'm saying. Its a quote against your argumentation.

Quote the book here. I want to know the authors. Most of natives died off,true. But not by bullets and swords. They were done in by epidemics and starvation. I have nothing else to add to this.
@Logiko if the Chinese are responsible for Covid,are they genociders too?

WOW you are lucky ! It happens that both author and sociologist (Moema Libera Viezzer and Marcelo Grondin) who worked on this book are brazilian. So you might wanna check them.

I found this links (I can't read Portuguese)

https://www.pressenza.com/pt-pt/2021/09/abya-yala-um-livro-para-mudar-a-geografia-mental/
https://www.amazon.com.br/Genocídio-Sobrevivência-Povos-Originários-Américas/dp/658913801X

My version is this one, it include one more section about the genocide of the native population of Canada by an historian
https://www.amazon.fr/génocide-Amériques-Marcel-Grondin-ebook/dp/B0BBLBM9SF

Most of natives died off,true. But not by bullets and swords.
Yes they did mate. Death by epidemics is just aportion of all the death.
(and death by starvation, in this case intended, is still part of the genocide)


There isn't a precise way to measure the population number at the time and the victims of violence,so these numbers are obviously bullshit.
Well, it was literally documented by the colonizer themselves.... so....


so these numbers are obviously bullshit
Not really no.. but denying scientific researches is kind of a sport with you.. so I'm not surprised.


I still want the source material you are reading.
This is pretty much a scientific consensus mate... The the sources are all the anthropologist, historian and sociologist working on the subject.. I don't think this is just two or three or ten researchers...


Pretty sure its some anti-europpean leftie cooking up more propaganda to shit on Europpean history.
Well, most scientist working in social sciences are leftists so.. yeah, it might be some leftist lmao


i know, this shit won't end well is all i'n saying
Those who want to hurt people are not leftist mate...
 
Which is worse of a failed country , Mexico or Brazil?
Post-WW2 Germany is the globalist's bitch. Have fun sharing your country with a horde migrants that don't share your valeus.
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There is not hierarchy between studients and children unless you are in a military school. Studients are not the employee or the soldiers of teachers.



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In France we have a Law that prevent the denial of the "shoah". But only this one genocide. There is no laws against the denial of what we did in Africa for example. Concerning the definition, A genocide is something that was defined as followed by the UN:

"
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

- Killing members of the group;
- Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
- Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
- Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
- Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group
"
https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml#:~:text=To constitute genocide, there must,to simply disperse a group.



Its not hatred, its frustration. They are an oppressed group and we are the oppressors. Its logical for them to feel completely frustrated by what they live.


Its not. Its really not. When we see "we need less white men" in structures of power (for example). This is NOT an attack, this is factual. We need less white men in structures of power because the fact that we have so much is proven to be hurtfull because this is a priviledged class of people. There are reasons why women explains and target the powers of men. If you don't understand that, then you still have room to understand really what leftism is about.

We don't attack men, we explains that men have ALL the power and in this patriarcal society, its hurting EVERYONE.



Its not us who pushes those men toward bigotry, its the far right, confusionnist and anti woke people who are doing everything to convince them and suceeding.

We already tried to be nice and pedagogue with everyone. Its not working. Being nice and giving scientific data to a person that don't want to listen is USELESS. People don't go to the far right and confusionnist anti woke side because they were not convinced, people go there because they ALREADY HAD SEXIST/RACIST/CAPITALIST value in them.

And the reason is simple : its all about the capitals of those person in the first place. What I explained to you in my previous post. If you don't understand this basic sociologic principle you will not understand the left.

People who are already priviledged will not naturally question their place of priviledge.


This is the complete opposite. We know how to change things and we propose things. But we are not heard simply because the conservative right and the liberals prevent us from accessing to power. So yes, we scream.



No indeed, they were also killed by disease, sometimes transmitted even intentionnaly by europeeans. The rest (and in large majority) were massacred.


Not it didn't "only" do that. THe massacre is a documented fact. This was a genocide through and through. The biggest in human history.

And you keep denying it.



I didn't missunderstand anything. That quote is explaning the same thing that i'm saying. Its a quote against your argumentation.


I tried to find it it English, sadly its only french. It was wrtten

WOW you are lucky ! It happens that both author and sociologist (Moema Libera Viezzer and Marcelo Grondin) who worked on this book are brazilian. So you might wanna check them.

I found this links (I can't read Portuguese), can't find the book other

https://www.pressenza.com/pt-pt/2021/09/abya-yala-um-livro-para-mudar-a-geografia-mental/
https://www.amazon.com.br/Genocídio-Sobrevivência-Povos-Originários-Américas/dp/658913801X

My version is this one, it include one more section about the genocide of the native population of Canada by an historian
https://www.amazon.fr/génocide-Amériques-Marcel-Grondin-ebook/dp/B0BBLBM9SF


Yes they did mate. Death by epidemics is just aportion of all the death.
(and death by starvation, in this case intended, is still part of the genocide)



Well, it was literally documented by the colonizer themselves.... so....



Not really no.. but denying scientific researches is kind of a sport with you.. so I'm not surprised.



This is pretty much a scientific consensus mate... The the sources are all the anthropologist, historian and sociologist working on the subject.. I don't think this is just two or three or ten researchers...



Well, most scientist working in social sciences are leftists so.. yeah, it might be some leftist lmao



Those who want to hurt people are not leftist mate...
For some reason,i'm not surprised about this. Academics in Brazil are 99.9% left wing and the narrative that vilifies the portuguese colonization is a staple here. You know,got make people hate their history to kill that nationalistic sentiment.
 
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For some reason,i'm not surprised about this. Academics in Brazil are 99.9% left wing and the narrative that vilifies the portuguese colonization is a staple here. You know,got make people hate their history to kill that nationalistic sentiment.
What? They teach y'all that colonialism is bad?!?!?!?!:noo::noo::noo:How dare they:pepeanger:
Post-WW2 Germany is the globalist's bitch. Have fun sharing your country with a horde migrants that don't share your valeus.
I'm part migrant. You're barking up the wrong tree buddy
 
I'm part migrant. You're barking up the wrong tree buddy
And I'm full migrant and I'm against uncontrolled immigrantion as well as folks who refuse to integrate into society and being a productive member. You can have your believes and culture BUT it is necessary to integrate into the country your living and don't be a parasite who lives from taxes, there enough Hartz IV already :kriwhat:
 
the average people have no interest in the change of the status co



leftism is the status quo


the media and the goverment are left leaning not right
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cnn - left wing


biden - left wing



treadeau - left wing



disney - left wing



where's the right system




right wing = counter culture



left wing = status quo/establishment



all of news media,goverment and entertainment are left wing.




there's good faith argument of left wing not being the status quo
 
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And I'm full migrant and I'm against uncontrolled immigrantion as well as folks who refuse to integrate into society and being a productive member. You can have your believes and culture BUT it is necessary to integrate into the country your living and don't be a parasite who lives from taxes, there enough Hartz IV already :kriwhat:
Great but this wasn't the conversation we were having. The guy was trying to deflect 🤣 read his posts again
 
is that I spent more than 15 years constantly questionning myself
your a self desribed miltant

somebody who will never give into crititism or logic regardless of validity



you quite literally are the exact opposite of somebody who questions themselves


Its not hatred, its frustration. They are an oppressed group and we are the oppressors. Its logical for them to feel completely frustrated by what they live.


tomato tomato


people like you gonna defend women regardless if they muredered hundreds of men


cause femminsim at it's core is about advocating and defending women



if all the women are pieces of shit then who cares, the goal is defend and adovcate




everything else be damned



context,reason and logic



in modern day, america the women only can be opressed by virtue of income class



any gender based opression is just leftist idealogical belief and nothing more just fantasy like the many man made tales of god


just a fiction as the reality being most of the most the media and poticians are liberals just like you



maybe they parrot the views you hold for money or some shit but regardless they still parrot them and uphold them publicly



so the system at least publicly is pro women not pro men





patrirchy is false


opression of women is false



the notions of leftism are just a belief like christanity


it's just a retarded regliilion



only difference is that it's secular



the idea of men opressing women is retarded bs if women were really opressed they would be expected to shut the fuck up and do as their told instead their celebrated for saying men are shit



yea such a male centric system that it encourages people to hate men



almost like leftsim is the system



you still living in ragan era america, it's 2024


there is no christan fundamentalists who hold power anymore



and im glad for that, they were extreme calling everything they disliked satanism


however the left has become the same way denoucing everything as far right or facism



it's the same shit as before just different idiots in charge
 
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There is not hierarchy between studients and children unless you are in a military school. Studients are not the employee or the soldiers of teachers.
so you think a school without a hierarchy between the adults and the students can be functional? because it really cant. even with it in place its sometimes not functional or just barely.
 
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