Controversial General Political Discussion

Logiko

Logiko

‎
#37,481
#37,481
Uncle Van said:
I wonder what the next moral scapegoat is going to be 10 years from now. Right now is trans people. Immigrants has been a scapegoat since 1798 so they don't count.
Click to expand...
Anti-meritocrat.

I believe that it will be the next big fight of the left and since meritocracy is the myth that support the entire system behind capitalism and liberalism, you will see the biggest alliance of the right there has ever been against people who really want to challenge the concept.

That might also be the day where you see where real and fake leftist are.
 
Nuit Rouge

Nuit Rouge

Well, I give up. Can't win against fools.
‎
#37,482
#37,482
Logiko said:
Yeah, I know. That's precisely why we need to use terms like that to create a wake up call. Because yeah bro, what is happening is horrific, and its INTENDED to be.



I was not speaking specifically about you per say it was a general "you". Sorry.

I'm mentionning that using the antisemitic card right now is REALLY not the time. Let me remind you that currently, multiple members of the opposition party in France, including the president of the biggest leftist party (this news just dropped yesterday) are being pressured by police complaints for antisemitism and terrorism apologism. So right now, the antisemitic card is being used as a tool ALL OVER THE WORLD to suppress any condamnation of the current genocide done by Israel. This is really not the best card and no, I do not want to "understand" jews or zionist that use this card to suppress the condamnation of a massacre. Those people are complicit in the invisibilization of an atrocity.
Click to expand...
funny to see RN defending Israel now
 
Logiko

Logiko

‎
#37,483
#37,483
Red Night said:
funny to see RN defending Israel now
Click to expand...
Well, not really.

After all they are foundamentally racist and islamophobic and while a part of their base is still virulantly antisemitic, the heads of the party have adopted the hegemonic bourgeois narrative about the right of Israel to defend itself and therefore attacking muslim through the politic of Israel is perfect for them.

Also we must not forget that the Israelian gov is far right so their allegance is also logical on that side.

But something interesting might come and I'm very curious to see how the right (sos dem, liberals, conservative, far right) will handle that after having defended Israel's policy to the bone :

The International Criminal Court is considering issuing an arrest warrant for Netanyahu and other Israelian officials:

https://www.euronews.com/2024/04/29...sidering-issuing-arrest-warrant-for-netanyahu
 
Nuit Rouge

Nuit Rouge

Well, I give up. Can't win against fools.
‎
#37,484
#37,484
Logiko said:
Well, not really.

After all they are foundamentally racist and islamophobic and while a part of their base is still virulantly antisemitic, the heads of the party have adopted the hegemonic bourgeois narrative about the right of Israel to defend itself and therefore attacking muslim through the politic of Israel is perfect for them.

Also we must not forget that the Israelian gov is far right so their allegance is also logical on that side.

But something interesting might come and I'm very curious to see how the right (sos dem, liberals, conservative, far right) will handle that after having defended Israel's policy to the bone :

The International Criminal Court is considering issuing an arrest warrant for Netanyahu and other Israelian officials:

https://www.euronews.com/2024/04/29...sidering-issuing-arrest-warrant-for-netanyahu
Click to expand...
Well, RN is close to take the power, we'll if their pro-Israel narrative will be the same
 
Bisoromi Bear

Bisoromi Bear

‎
#37,487
#37,487
Toby D. Dog said:
Isn't the story of ethnic replacement (which is a grossly oversimplified term for the phenomenon) the story of human civilization itself?
Click to expand...
thata literally what I said to Logiko a few days ago and he called me a conspiracy theorist and right winger or sum. Modern Europeans are literally the descendants of conqueror hordes who replaced the previous conqueror hordes and now a bunch of new conqueror hordes are slowly replacing us. It's the same story again and again.
Toby D. Dog said:
Ethnic diversity often comes hand in hand with diversity of thought and political alignment, something which you have made clear you don't like. America isn't a place for someone like you who craves so much uniformity.
[automerge]1714498189[/automerge]

cuz this isn't an opinion. They're empirical facts.
Click to expand...
You know sometimes I think those europeans who are so much into ethnic purity would be really happy as members of uncontacted tribes in the jungle / on some remote island. Unfortunately, we can't have such a lifestyle as continental Europeans.
Toby D. Dog said:
Funny thing is that he called Americans "stupid" while spewing the same conspiracy theories your average conservative American does.
Click to expand...
That's what all of them are doing tho. Conservative Germans are copying conservative Americans and the German left copying the American left. Whatever happens in Murica today is bound to arrive in Germany a few years later. Thanks to the post WWII cultural colonisation
 
Logiko

Logiko

‎
#37,488
#37,488
Bisoromi Bear said:
thata literally what I said to Logiko a few days ago and he called me a conspiracy theorist and right winger or sum.
Click to expand...
I've never called you that lmao

But the great replacement theory is indeed a racist, fascist and conspiracy theory. It was created first to talk about the jews and is now used to talk about muslims in order to legitimate their oppression.
 
Bisoromi Bear

Bisoromi Bear

‎
#37,489
#37,489
Logiko said:
I've never called you that lmao

But the great replacement theory is indeed a racist, fascist and conspiracy theory. It was created first to talk about the jews and is now used to talk about muslims in order to legitimate their oppression.
Click to expand...
Bruh please do your research on the history of Europe. Us Indo-European speakers are not indigenous in any way, shape or form.
 
Monkey D Theories

Monkey D Theories

‎
#37,491
#37,491
Logiko said:
Well, not really.

After all they are foundamentally racist and islamophobic and while a part of their base is still virulantly antisemitic, the heads of the party have adopted the hegemonic bourgeois narrative about the right of Israel to defend itself and therefore attacking muslim through the politic of Israel is perfect for them.

Also we must not forget that the Israelian gov is far right so their allegance is also logical on that side.

But something interesting might come and I'm very curious to see how the right (sos dem, liberals, conservative, far right) will handle that after having defended Israel's policy to the bone :

The International Criminal Court is considering issuing an arrest warrant for Netanyahu and other Israelian officials:

https://www.euronews.com/2024/04/29...sidering-issuing-arrest-warrant-for-netanyahu
Click to expand...
Why do you keep calling them israelian?

It’s Israeli
 
Zenos7

Zenos7

‎
#37,494
#37,494
Bisoromi Bear said:
know sometimes I think those europeans who are so much into ethnic purity would be really happy as members of uncontacted tribes in the jungle / on some remote island. Unfortunately, we can't have such a lifestyle as continental Europeans.
Click to expand...
They should all do a heritage dna test to see how stupif their "ethnic purity" bs is
 
Nuit Rouge

Nuit Rouge

Well, I give up. Can't win against fools.
‎
#37,497
#37,497
Motherfuckers in 2024 still think their problems are caused by racial issues instead of economical and social issues. I see that establishment medias are doing thekr work good. Deviating the people's mind from the real problem : neo-liberalism.
 
Logiko

Logiko

‎
#37,498
#37,498
Red Night said:
Motherfuckers in 2024 still think their problems are caused by racial issues instead of economical and social issues. I see that establishment medias are doing thekr work good. Deviating the people's mind from the real problem : neo-liberalism.
Click to expand...
Actually the problem are multiple and it depends in the way you prioritize your fight.

For example, in the last few years, I've prioritized the fight for the right of LGBTQ+ and against patriarchy above all else but in the last few month, I've been switching toward a marxist approach and therefore an anti-capitalistic fight. Others will prioritize the anti-racist fights and others anti-ableism..

Aside from the fact that there are 4 major sets of problems:
- Capitalism/neoliberalism/liberalism/Meritocracy
- Patriarchy/heteronormativity
- Systemic racism
- Ableism

Leftists will prioritize in their own ways. After all some people are fighting for their survival..

I think anti-capitalism is the most important fight above all as everyother are symptoms of this problem, but I can understand that some people are not that familiar with every problems and choose to prioritize their own fight.
 
Roo

Roo

‎
#37,499
#37,499
Red Night said:
Motherfuckers in 2024 still think their problems are caused by racial issues instead of economical and social issues. I see that establishment medias are doing thekr work good. Deviating the people's mind from the real problem : neo-liberalism.
Click to expand...
Yes, in 2024 there’s still racism. I swear every class reductionist is extremely out of touch.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top