Controversial General Political Discussion

[Herrera95]

Man, this guy is a fucking riot. Say what you will about C4N, but you’ll never find this level of retardation in this forum.

Well, him and Lerrera.

Cry. I'm backed up by science, data and logic. All you can do is trash talk others. That's your limit.
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When the owner class can lobby(called corruption and bribing in every other country) the Government into removing regulation so that they can acquire more capital, it really sounds like a Government problem.

And when they do the opposite to PUT regulation so their competition gets out of bussiness?

 

[Ravagerblade]

Cry. I'm backed up by science, data and logic. All you can do is trash talk others. That's your limit.
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And when they do the opposite to PUT regulation so their competition gets out of bussiness?

He's just an insignificant flea. Don't bother, What he says has even lesser value than C4N.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

He's just an insignificant flea. Don't bother, What he says has even lesser value than C4N.

LMAO

The fact that you use terms such as “flea” tells me everything I need to know about you, you absolute cringe lord.
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Cry. I'm backed up by science, data and logic. All you can do is trash talk others. That's your limit.

You barely know how to write, let alone understand the basic functions of government and geopolitics. I’ve never seen you make a valid point in my life, all the things you’ve ever said are standard talking points from 4chan and twitter.

Even in this community (which skews heavily to the right) you’re seen as a brain dead weirdo and a sorry excuse of a troll.

 

[Logiko]

Cry. I'm backed up by science, data and logic. All you can do is trash talk others. That's your limit.

What science ?

 

[Uncle Van]

And when they do the opposite to PUT regulation so their competition gets out of bussiness?

Guy what're you talking about....the very nature of captialism is to extract captial from others to increase your wealth. It greatly benefits the owner class who can easily extract wealth from the worker class which creates bigger wealth disparity. The purpose of regulation is to limit inflation, lobbying, monopolies, and wealth disparity, and Government is what applies these regulations in the first place.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

He's just an insignificant flea. Don't bother, What he says has even lesser value than C4N.

When will you stop talking like an edgy anime character

 

[Z-Saber]

Well, now I'm curious. How can a mental disability be offensive ?

If Al doesn’t want to talk about it then let it be. Not trying to be rude here but there are more serious disabilities. I don’t lack sympathy or empathy for you in your condition but you’re better off than most disabled people and I hope you find the strength to navigate through your own problems.

 

[Logiko]

Not trying to be rude here but there are more serious disabilities. I don’t lack sympathy or empathy for you in your condition but you’re better off than most disabled people

You are completely right, although I would cut my own two legs if I could to get out of my current situation, there are indeed more serious disabilities, some are literaly hell on earth. In fact in some ways, what I live does not even compare to 5% of what are living some people. But if I remember correctly, I've never compared myself to anyone or tried to say that my disability was worse than others.

So my question is perfectly legitimate here and your unsolicited comparison is problematic.

 

[Ravagerblade]

You are completely right, although I would cut my own two legs if I could to get out of my current situation, there are indeed more serious disabilities, some are literaly hell on earth. In fact in some ways, what I live does not even compare to 5% of what are living some people. But if I remember correctly, I've never compared myself to anyone or tried to say that my disability was worse than others.

So my question is perfectly legitimate here and your unsolicited comparison is problematic.

Imagine having lived like Polio Paul, RIP.

 

[Z-Saber]

You are completely right, although I would cut my own two legs if I could to get out of my current situation, there are indeed more serious disabilities, some are literaly hell on earth. In fact in some ways, what I live does not even compare to 5% of what are living some people. But if I remember correctly, I've never compared myself to anyone or tried to say that my disability was worse than others.

So my question is perfectly legitimate here and your unsolicited comparison is problematic.

It’s not, Al has talked about his personal struggles here before but it’s not my place to get into it. Just trying to get you to understand why he might be offended by you classifying yourself.

 

[Logiko]

It’s not, Al has talked about his personal struggles here before but it’s not my place to get into it. Just trying to get you to understand why he might be offended by you classifying yourself.

Me "classifying myself" ? What do you mean by that ?

 

[Z-Saber]

Me "classifying myself" ? What do you mean by that ?

Your disability. I don’t blame you if you’re unaware of Al’s struggles but if you were aware, you’d understand why he said he’s offended.

 

[Logiko]

Your disability. I don’t blame you if you’re unaware of Al’s struggles but if you were aware, you’d understand why he said he’s offended.

No, I don't think I would mate.
No one should be offended by the disabilities of others.

 

[Z-Saber]

No, I don't think I would mate.
No one should be offended by the disabilities of others.

Well that’s your choice to make. I do understand his perspective though and I can’t really elaborate on that further without sounding like an asshole to you. That’s not something I wish to do.

 

[Logiko]

I do understand his perspective though and I can’t really elaborate on that further without sounding like an asshole to you.

Let me take a guess:

Al has or know one or multiple someone with a strong physical or mental disability (that I don't know the nature of) and because he believes that my struggle is "not that hard" or maybe "not that real" compared to what he or the person he knows lives, because maybe I'm very active here, he is offended by me explaining that I'm disabled.

Maybe I'm wrong, after all, its just a guess. So let me know how many % of the answer I got right here.

 

[Z-Saber]

Let me take a guess:

Al has or know one or multiple someone with a strong physical or mental disability (that I don't know the nature of) and because he believes that my struggle is "not that hard" or maybe "not that real" compared to what he or the person he knows lives, because maybe I'm very active here, he is offended by me explaining that I'm disabled.

Maybe I'm wrong, after all, its just a guess. So let me know how many % of the answer I got right here.

Again, it isn't my place to speak on that and he doesn't want to talk about it.

Speaking for myself though, I've dealt with disabled people physically and mentally and in my personal experience, 90% of the time the physically disabled are worse off. I recognize mental disabilities and I don't want to downplay them but some are far more significant than others. I've worked with a child that was both mentally retarded and physically disabled, to the point to where she can't speak or walk or do anything unassisted since birth. Compared to that, I would be hard pressed to even consider some of the mentally disabled people I've worked with as "disabled". I'm not trying to sound harsh when I say this but to me, your disability does fall into that category. I'm not saying that your disability isn't something to take seriously but to some, you being classified as disabled can come across like a slap to the face.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

If Al doesn’t want to talk about it then let it be. Not trying to be rude here but there are more serious disabilities. I don’t lack sympathy or empathy for you in your condition but you’re better off than most disabled people and I hope you find the strength to navigate through your own problems.

Disability ranking is cringe. That's all I'm going to contribute to this topic

 

[Logiko]

Again, it isn't my place to speak on that and he doesn't want to talk about it.

Speaking for myself though, I've dealt with disabled people physically and mentally and in my personal experience, 90% of the time the physically disabled are worse off. I recognize mental disabilities and I don't want to downplay them but some are far more significant than others. I've worked with a child that was both mentally retarded and physically disabled, to the point to where she can't speak or walk or do anything unassisted since birth. Compared to that, I would be hard pressed to even consider some of the mentally disabled people I've worked with as "disabled". I'm not trying to sound harsh when I say this but to me, your disability does fall into that category. I'm not saying that your disability isn't something to take seriously but to some, you being classified as disabled can come across like a slap to the face.

I've literally NEVER seen any disabled person (and I'm following a few) saying to another disabled person that might be in better shape that they are not "really disabled". Those things are said by people who don't face the disability in their own skin or those who are close to the person in question, NEVER the person themself.

Why ? Because ALL "disabled" persons are facing at one point or another the ableistic side of society or psychiatry that is being talked about in the leftist library here...

- [VIDEO] - What is ableism
- [VIDEO] - The importance of understanding neurodiversity
- [VIDEO] - The struggle of being disabled under capitalism
- [VIDEO] - Disability: A class war

... and ALL disabled person understand how important it is to consider the disabilities of others with empathy instead of intolerance and ignorant comparisons because that how they want people to treat them !

So no, I don't want or can understand someone that compare disabilities or the life of people who struggle and who feel offended by someone that barely saw the light of day in 15 years because of their mental illness.

Sorry not sorry.

 

[Uncle Van]

Again, it isn't my place to speak on that and he doesn't want to talk about it.

Speaking for myself though, I've dealt with disabled people physically and mentally and in my personal experience, 90% of the time the physically disabled are worse off. I recognize mental disabilities and I don't want to downplay them but some are far more significant than others. I've worked with a child that was both mentally retarded and physically disabled, to the point to where she can't speak or walk or do anything unassisted since birth. Compared to that, I would be hard pressed to even consider some of the mentally disabled people I've worked with as "disabled". I'm not trying to sound harsh when I say this but to me, your disability does fall into that category. I'm not saying that your disability isn't something to take seriously but to some, you being classified as disabled can come across like a slap to the face.

Its because Logiko's initial post seriously gave off the impression that he self diagnosed himself to justify being lazy or something. Given how he:
1) Constantly complains about the idea of having to work hard or having control of your life
2) paints himself as a martyr and victim of oppression
3) makes up criteria and definition to fit his own ideology
4) Mocking marginalized groups in his attempts to make himself look better

AL had to no reason to believe anything Logiko said. It's believed Logiko isn't genuine and is instead up to his usual antics. Again, this is the impression he gave off.

 

[Z-Saber]

Its because Logiko's initial post seriously gave off the impression that he self diagnosed himself to justify being lazy or something. Given how he:
1) Constantly complains about the idea of having to work hard or having control of your life
2) paints himself as a martyr and victim of oppression
3) makes up criteria and definition to fit his own ideology
4) Mocking marginalized groups in his attempts to make himself look better

AL had to no reason to believe anything Logiko said. It's believed Logiko isn't genuine and is instead up to his usual antics. Again, this is the impression he gave off.

Oh, well that makes a lot of sense actually. I don't really care to engage in leftist rhetoric @Logiko because I live in a world where every debate doesn't come down to "left vs right". I had a whole response ready to go but its not worth it. I'm not an ablelist and I don't really care if you want to label me as one for saying what I said.