Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

You gonna have to do the math on this.

Person A: Own Brain, Own thoughts = Person B: Own Brain, Own thoughs + Persons C: Multiple Brains, Multiple thoughts.

What are you trying to tell me ?

The guy that started the modern day trans horror show was a monster. John Money was a monster:
Since the 1990s, Money's work and research has been subject to significant academic and public scrutiny.[7] A 1997 academic study criticized Money's work in many respects, particularly in regard to the involuntary sex-reassignment of the child David Reimer.[8][9] Money allegedly coerced David and his brother Brian to perform sexual rehearsal with each other, which Money then photographed. David Reimer lived a troubled life, ending with his suicide at 38; his brother died of an overdose at age 36.[10]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money

Typical Daily Wire propaganda. I talked about Money here:

Wrong + desinformation

First because there is no such thing as "gender theory".
"Gender theory" is a far right term meant to delegitimize the studies of gender in sociology or "gender studies". Which are a scientific FIELD OF STUDY, studying multiple things about gender.


Second because its Matt Walsh - a crypto fascist Btw - that attributed the invention of "gender identities" to John Money who actually just spoke about "gender roles".

https://link.springer.com/epdf/10.1...cD6WWNJ1c04o5Y-ZkflIHTBDRyY-bi2Mi1skk0STyAcE=

Money only spoke about gender role and yes, was not a good person.

This doesn't change anything to the reality of transgender people. If you want me to go ham. Just ask. I'm ready for a second round and you will once again leave with the tail between your legs.

That still basically makes no sense given the elderly of all people should know this man was not fit to go on lmao

Don't underestimate the conservatism and sexism of the white old base of liberals. Some liberals don't want a woman to be next. I'm not saying that this is the reason, but this could be a reason.

 

[NAMELESS]

@Logiko watch the video i posted and watched the comments on the comment section. I bet you will say the people that are reporting the harm that was done to their kids are being transphobic too.

 

[Zemmi]

What are you trying to tell me ?


Typical Daily Wire propaganda. I talked about Money here:



Money only spoke about gender role and yes, was not a good person.

This doesn't change anything to the reality of transgender people. If you want me to go ham. Just ask. I'm ready for a second round and you will once again leave with the tail between your legs.



Don't underestimate the conservatism and sexism of the white old base of liberals. Some liberals don't want a woman to be next. I'm not saying that this is the reason, but this could be a reason.

How does Elon's thought become Trumps + followers thoughts? Since each person is unique. You can't even take all of Trumps thoughts and paste them onto his voters.

 

[RebelliousSoma]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1815496272830218588

Who tf was this 17%?

The bigger question is how do these very same democrats still think Biden is better candidate.
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Elon Musk, talking about the reason why he wants to destroy the "woke mind virus" : "My son Xavier is dead because of the woke mind virus"

Reality : His daughter, Vivian Jenna Wilson (a transwoman, born Xavier Musk) choosed to undergo hormone therapy to become her real self. In front of the transphobic point of view of her father and his lack of support, she choosed to cut ties with him and take her mother's name.

The richest man on the planet is one of the most transphobic people there is. He rejected his own family because of his bigotry.

This is what the far right is. This is who Trump and his followers are.

1. let kids be kids
2. he did say he got tricked into signing the papers and regrets it

 

[Ravagerblade]

How does Elon's thought become Trumps + followers thoughts? Since each person is unique. You can't even take all of Trumps thoughts and paste them onto his voters.

He must think we're a hivemind. Which is funny because that's what I think about them.

 

[Zemmi]

Recent Babylonbee titles.

1.) 'Sorry, No Refund,' Says Hunter Biden to all the foreign governments that sent him bribes
2.) Biden to make statement Via Ouija Board
3.) In Most, Popular Move of Presidency, Biden Quits
4.) Aides Struggle to figure out How to Break the News To Biden That He Dropped Out.
5.) Democrats Pull Off Successful Insurrection
6.) Jill Biden Drops Out Of Presidential Race
7.) Secret Service Says It Is Working Tirelessly To Investigate Anyone criticizing Their Incompetence.

 

[Logiko]

@Logiko watch the video i posted and watched the comments on the comment section. I bet you will say the people that are reporting the harm that was done to their kids are being transphobic too.

There is two type of people who say those type of stuff:

Caring parents : Their child underwent a hormone therapy but it didn't went the way they expected

Transphobic parents : Their child underwent a hormone therapy, it went well, but they rejected the child out of bigotry and now the child cut ties with them because of their lack of support. They therefore consider their child as "dead" > Elon musk is an example.

I have NO empathy for the seconds.

As for the first. Sadly, this is something that happens. This is very rare, but there are case where a hormone therapy is just not enough or where it's not the appropriate response for a person.

Every Trans person and doctor know this. This is why there is a period before the treatment where people are educated on the subject. And EVEN in those case, its not irreversible.

Again, this changes nothing to the reality of Trans people and the need to get them a treatment if they need.

How to Elon's thought become Trumps + followers thoughts?

Because Elon is the biggest and most influencial supporter of Donald Trump, that's why.

And because they have the same ideology about the "woke mind virus", just like any far rightist. Its documented, I'm not inventing anything here.

This is an ideology that is a danger to LGBTQI+ people. An ideology that pushes families to reject their own blood.

1. let kids be kids

Yes. That also means don't step in their way when they are telling you seriously that there is a problem with their identity.

2. he did say he got tricked into signing the papers and regrets it

I doubt this. Most probable option is that his daughter asked him to sign the papers and he did it without thinking.

He must think we're a hivemind

Let's test that. If your answer to all those questions is "yes", then I'm right to think you guys have the same ideology, if not, then I'm wrong. DEAL ? Let's go:

- Do you believe in Meritocracy ?
- Do you think that trans women are NOT women ?
- Do you think that we should NOT accept "illegals" in your country in term of Immigration ?
- Do you consider me as "not a good person" ?
- Do you think that the world could be better if it was a little bit more conservative ?
- Do you think that "Woke people" are problematic and/or ignorant ?
- Do you think that every mainstream medias are against Trump?
- Do you think that Trump did NOT incite an insurrection ?
- Do you think that Trump is NOT racist ?
- Do you think that patriarchy is NOT something real in modern western day ?
- Do you think that capitalism is NOT the problem ?

So.. how many "NO" did you get here ?

 

[NAMELESS]

There is two type of people who say those type of stuff:

Caring parents : Their child underwent a hormone therapy but it didn't went the way they expected

Transphobic parents : Their child underwent a hormone therapy, it went well, but they rejected the child out of bigotry and now the child cut ties with them because of their lack of support. They therefore consider their child as "dead" > Elon musk is an example.

I have NO empathy for the seconds.

As for the first. Sadly, this is something that happens. This is very rare, but there are case where a hormone therapy is just not enough or where it's not the appropriate response for a person.

Every Trans person and doctor know this. This is why there is a period before the treatment where people are educated on the subject. And EVEN in those case, its not irreversible.

Again, this changes nothing to the reality of Trans people and the need to get them a treatment if they need.


Because Elon is the biggest and most influencial supporter of Donald Trump, that's why.

And because they have the same ideology about the "woke mind virus", just like any far rightist. Its documented, I'm not inventing anything here.

This is an ideology that is a danger to LGBTQI+ people. An ideology that pushes families to reject their own blood.



Yes. That also means don't step in their way when they are telling you seriously that there is a problem with their identity.



I doubt this. Most probable option is that his daughter asked him to sign paper and he did him without thinking.



Let's test that. If your answer to all those question are "yes", then I'm right to think you guys have the same ideology, if not, then I'm wrong. DEAL ? Let's go:

- Do you believe in Meritocracy ?
- Do you think that trans women are NOT women ?
- Do you think that we should NOT accept "illegals" in your country in term of Immigration ?
- Do you consider me as "not a good person" ?
- Do you think that the world could be better if it was a little bit more conservative ?
- Do you think that "Woke people" are problematic and/or ignorant ?
- Do you think that every mainstream medias are against Trump?
- Do you think that Trump did NOT incite an insurrection ?
- Do you think that Trump is NOT racist ?
- Do you think that patriarchy is NOT something real in modern western day ?
- Do you think that capitalism is NOT the problem ?

So.. how many "NO" did you get here ?

You didnt even read the comments.

 

[Zemmi]

Because Elon is the biggest and most influencial supporter of Donald Trump, that's why.

And because they have the same ideology about the "woke mind virus", just like any far rightist. Its documented, I'm not inventing anything here.

This is an ideology that is a danger to LGBTQI+ people. An ideology that pushes families to reject their own blood.

You realize Trump has many LGBT supporters? So they believe the same as Elon?

I am pleading with you not to tell me they are self-hating etc. because that isn't true.

 

[Logiko]

You didnt even read the comments.

I don't need to.

I've seen those type of comment before.

 

[Ravagerblade]

There is two type of people who say those type of stuff:

Caring parents : Their child underwent a hormone therapy but it didn't went the way they expected

Transphobic parents : Their child underwent a hormone therapy, it went well, but they rejected the child out of bigotry and now the child cut ties with them because of their lack of support. They therefore consider their child as "dead" > Elon musk is an example.

I have NO empathy for the seconds.

As for the first. Sadly, this is something that happens. This is very rare, but there are case where a hormone therapy is just not enough or where it's not the appropriate response for a person.

Every Trans person and doctor know this. This is why there is a period before the treatment where people are educated on the subject. And EVEN in those case, its not irreversible.

Again, this changes nothing to the reality of Trans people and the need to get them a treatment if they need.


Because Elon is the biggest and most influencial supporter of Donald Trump, that's why.

And because they have the same ideology about the "woke mind virus", just like any far rightist. Its documented, I'm not inventing anything here.

This is an ideology that is a danger to LGBTQI+ people. An ideology that pushes families to reject their own blood.



Yes. That also means don't step in their way when they are telling you seriously that there is a problem with their identity.



I doubt this. Most probable option is that his daughter asked him to sign the papers and he did it without thinking.



Let's test that. If your answer to all those questions is "yes", then I'm right to think you guys have the same ideology, if not, then I'm wrong. DEAL ? Let's go:

- Do you believe in Meritocracy ?
- Do you think that trans women are NOT women ?
- Do you think that we should NOT accept "illegals" in your country in term of Immigration ?
- Do you consider me as "not a good person" ?
- Do you think that the world could be better if it was a little bit more conservative ?
- Do you think that "Woke people" are problematic and/or ignorant ?
- Do you think that every mainstream medias are against Trump?
- Do you think that Trump did NOT incite an insurrection ?
- Do you think that Trump is NOT racist ?
- Do you think that patriarchy is NOT something real in modern western day ?
- Do you think that capitalism is NOT the problem ?

So.. how many "NO" did you get here ?

You spout out such dumb rhetoric that it's so hard to ever take you seriously.
Why do you think Trump is racist, he was never one before 2016, but all of a sudden the MSM started peddling such notions.
All your views are extremist rhetoric.

 

[RebelliousSoma]

problem with their identity

gender dysphoria
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I don't need to.

I've seen those type of comment before.

 

[Logiko]

You realize Trump has many LGBT supporters? So they believe the same as Elon?

I am pleading with you not to tell me they are self-hating etc. because that isn't true.

You will find VERY FEW trans people supporting Trump and when this is the case, they will be:

- Uneducated on his politics
- Saying the same stuff as the others about the woke mind virus and its danger to young people

Spoiler:

This man:

Is named "Tanguy David"

He was one of the leading members of Eric Zemmour's party "Reconquête" in France during the 2022 presidential election.

Do you know what this party is ?

Its the most far right party in the history of France just before the gov of Vichy during the french occupation by Nazi. This is a party that literally consider that we should get rid of the power of the constitution, that we should deport delinquents to their country of origin no matter if they were born in France or not, this is a party that want to forbide people to call their kids "mohammad" or any names coming from other cultures (mainly muslim culture), this a party that consider migrants as a virus, this is a party founded by someone who was sentence multiple times for racist and islamophobic rethoric and this is a party that consider Islam as a ennemy. This is literally a fascist party supported by neonazis and white supremacists that consider that we should not let our "white" race disappear. And yet.. this guy was invited regularly on TV sets to speak about the program of his party.

I think this will resonnate with you so let me ask you this:

Do you think that this guys was acting for his own interests here or because of his ideology ?

Well, spoiler, this guy just left the party recently. The reason ? He was facing INTENSE harrasment and racists insults, the security of his OWN party didn't even recognize his loyalty and controled him multiple times !

All of this to say what ? Well this :

Our ideology will ALWAYS be stronger than our own interests

And far right understood this very well. This is why they are using pinkwashing to appeal to some LGBT people, mainly LGB ones. Because they know that if they manage to make them think against their own interest, they will be able to use them as a weapon against militants of the LGBTQI+ community.

This is why you can say to me right now they there are trans and gay people supporting Trump.

Yes there are. But it doesn't mean than those people are voting for their interests, and they will realize that sooner or later.

You spout out such dumb rhetoric that it's so hard to ever take you seriously.
Why do you think Trump is racist, he was never one before 2016, but all of a sudden the MSM started peddling such notions.
All your views are extremist rhetoric.

So ? How many "no" ??

gender dysphoria

Yup, it exists.

 

[Zemmi]

gender dysphoria
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Best part of that movie was him thinking he was going to get the money without no way of helping, despite him having to get the dude to the past for the money.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

The bigger question is how do these very same democrats still think Biden is better candidate.

Because Kamala is that unpopular

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

You will find VERY FEW trans people supporting Trump and when this is the case, they will be:

- Uneducated on his politics

Wrong lmao

LGTBQ people who are voting Trump are very aware of what his polices are about.

 

[Uncle Van]

Because Kamala is that unpopular

She can't keep her contradictions in check and never has an explanation for them. It's too easy to make her look foolish in debates.

 

[Logiko]

Wrong lmao

LGTBQ people who are voting Trump are very aware of what his polices are about.

Then they are living with paradoxes

 

[Zemmi]

You will find VERY FEW trans people supporting Trump and when this is the case, they will be:

- Uneducated on his politics
- Saying the same stuff as the others about the woke mind virus and its danger to young people

Spoiler:

This man:

Is named "Tanguy David"

He was one of the leading members of Eric Zemmour's party "Reconquête" in France during the 2022 presidential election.

Do you know what this party is ?

Its the most far right party in the history of France just before the gov of Vichy during the french occupation by Nazi. This is a party that literally consider that we should get rid of the power of the constitution, that we should deport delinquents to their country of origin no matter if they were born in France or not, this is a party that want to forbide people to call their kids "mohammad" or any names coming from other cultures (mainly muslim culture), this a party that consider migrants as a virus, this is a party founded by someone who was sentence multiple times for racist and islamophobic rethoric and this is a party that consider Islam as a ennemy. This is literally a fascist party supported by neonazis and white supremacists that consider that we should not let our "white" race disappear. And yet.. this guy was invited regularly on TV sets to speak about the program of his party.

I think this will resonnate with you so let me ask you this:

Do you think that this guys was acting for his own interests here or because of his ideology ?

Well, spoiler, this guy just left the party recently. The reason ? He was facing INTENSE harrasment and racists insults, the security of his OWN party didn't even recognize his loyalty and controled him multiple times !

All of this to say what ? Well this :

Our ideology will ALWAYS be stronger than our own interests

And far right understood this very well. This is why they are using pinkwashing to appeal to some LGBT people, mainly LGB ones. Because they know that if they manage to make them think against their own interest, they will be able to use them as a weapon against militants of the LGBTQI+ community.

This is why you can say to me right now they there are trans and gay people supporting Trump.

Yes there are. But it doesn't mean than those people are voting for their interests, and they will realize that sooner or later.



So ? How many "no" ??




Yup, it exists.

You know the vast majority of republicans do not care what adults do with their bodies or in their bedrooms? Not even an ounce.

 

[Uncle Van]

Trump got like half of the Latino vote. I guess all of them are unaware of Trump's very vocal Build The Wall and campaign.