All women should be able to have abortion legally and safely. Abortion should be a constitutional right in every countries and a foudamental human right.



Then trust the method and therefore the researches.



Fair, but 99% of scientists actually want to help you, not to harm you

Much more than 99% of politician
The fundamental human right of killing off unwanted babies. Hell yeahhhhh, lets goooooooooooooooo
 

Zemmi

GodMommie
I'm not touching that subject but will say, I believe it was right to throw it back to the people of the states, just because I think most things states should decide for themselves because of the massive size of our country. Like I don't want California's policies pushed on Louisiana.
 
Nobody wants to believe it but more than likely it is there.
Blackops isn't just fiction etc...
Sure there may have been movies like Jason Bourne series etc but make no mistake; there must be some sort of programs out there.
War on Terror was basically one huge black ops. Where are the Chemicals weapons that Suddam Hussein supposedly had?
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I'm not touching that subject but will say, I believe it was right to throw it back to the people of the states, just because I think most things states should decide for themselves because of the massive size of our country. Like I don't want California's policies pushed on Louisiana.
I wish we had such system in my nation.
 
And @Logiko btw I'm not shaming you for supporting abortion, that by it self isn't some grand crime, but I did find it kind of hypocritical for you to say that given your past comments on murder.
If you ask me, I value even an unborn baby's life, because of how much potential they have. That baby could be very important in the future, and they deserve to experience life, it's a very pleasurable experience sometimes.
However, I get why you think it should be legal, after all if a girl is raped (especially if they're a young girl who can't take care of a child) she should be able to have an abortion (or at least put it up for adoption or something, I don't know)
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Do you know the Violonist story In "A defense of abortion" by Judith Jarvis Thomson ?
no i don't
 
Nobody wants to believe it but more than likely it is there.
Blackops isn't just fiction etc...
Sure there may have been movies like Jason Bourne series etc but make no mistake; there must be some sort of programs out there.
Neither is the secret moon base. The official return keeps getting postponed. Somehow we lost the technology or we never went? Neither feasible nor matching reality, therefore it's clear we never stopped going!! Moonbase soldiers are spying on your grandma.
 
And @Logiko btw I'm not shaming you for supporting abortion, that by it self isn't some grand crime, but I did find it kind of hypocritical for you to say that given your past comments on murder.
If you ask me, I value even an unborn baby's life, because of how much potential they have. That baby could be very important in the future, and they deserve to experience life, it's a very pleasurable experience sometimes.
However, I get why you think it should be legal, after all if a girl is raped (especially if they're a young girl who can't take care of a child) she should be able to have an abortion (or at least put it up for adoption or something, I don't know)
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no i don't
Lets not forget that the argument that unwanted babies will suffer and therefore should be put down mercifully is basically what Hitler was doing in Germany back in days of Eugenia.
 
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I'm fine, thanks :)

Woke=modern day Nazism.
You know nothing John doe


I know you are buddy. You're proud of all your incorrect takes
No, i don't. Give it a shot.
The story goes like this :

"You wake up in the morning and find yourself back to back in bed with an unconscious violinist. A famous unconscious violinist. He has been found to have a fatal kidney ailment, and the Society of Music Lovers has canvassed all the available medical records and found that you alone have the right blood type to help. They have therefore kidnapped you, and last night the violinist's circulatory system was plugged into yours, so that your kidneys can be used to extract poisons from his blood as well as your own. [If he is unplugged from you now, he will die; but] in nine months he will have recovered from his ailment, and can safely be unplugged from you "

"Thomson argues that one can permissibly unplug oneself from the violinist even though this will cause his death; this is due to limits on the right to life, which does not include the right to use another person's body, and so by unplugging the violinist one does not violate his right to life but merely deprives him of something – the use of someone else's body – to which he has no right. "

This is an allegory for abortion.

The question is not about the status of the life or non life of the body.

The question must stand on the right of women's body to accept OR NOT to let a POTENTIAL someone take over her body's ressources and life.

"Thomson says that abortion does not violate the fetus's legitimate right to life but merely deprives the fetus of something – the non-consensual use of the pregnant woman's body and life-supporting functions – to which it has no right. Thus, by choosing to terminate her pregnancy, Thomson concludes that a pregnant woman does not normally violate the fetus's right to life but merely withdraws its use of her own body, which usually causes the fetus to die "

Simple.


I consider that women rights need to be considered FIRST.
 

Zemmi

GodMommie
I'm fine, thanks :)


You know nothing John doe





The story goes like this :

"You wake up in the morning and find yourself back to back in bed with an unconscious violinist. A famous unconscious violinist. He has been found to have a fatal kidney ailment, and the Society of Music Lovers has canvassed all the available medical records and found that you alone have the right blood type to help. They have therefore kidnapped you, and last night the violinist's circulatory system was plugged into yours, so that your kidneys can be used to extract poisons from his blood as well as your own. [If he is unplugged from you now, he will die; but] in nine months he will have recovered from his ailment, and can safely be unplugged from you "

"Thomson argues that one can permissibly unplug oneself from the violinist even though this will cause his death; this is due to limits on the right to life, which does not include the right to use another person's body, and so by unplugging the violinist one does not violate his right to life but merely deprives him of something – the use of someone else's body – to which he has no right. "

This is an allegory for abortion.

The question is not about the status of the life or non life of the body.

The question must stand on the right of women's body to accept OR NOT to let a POTENTIAL someone take over her body's ressources and life.

"Thomson says that abortion does not violate the fetus's legitimate right to life but merely deprives the fetus of something – the non-consensual use of the pregnant woman's body and life-supporting functions – to which it has no right. Thus, by choosing to terminate her pregnancy, Thomson concludes that a pregnant woman does not normally violate the fetus's right to life but merely withdraws its use of her own body, which usually causes the fetus to die "

Simple.

I consider that women rights need to be considered FIRST.
As a mom, I can tell you from conception, I never saw my children as unconscious violinists.
 
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