Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

Someone who doesn't identify with their biological sex

So what do you not understand by "it's not a choice" ?

"Trust science" they said when they were pushing the vaccines as if it was the wonder elixir that would cure covid

The vaccin saved million of people. Don't even start doing COVID conspirationism

If you don't trust the scientist process you have absolutely ZERO say in the matter of GAS.

Isn't it just so very very convenient to just "trust science" when it comes to some contemporary issue that has blown up in recent years

You make non convenient. Trusting science - Vaccin included - is ALWAYS the go to. If you started to become a science denier and a conspirationist, it's not science's faults, but the fault of disinformation.

"Skeptics resisting" were people spreading missinformation about the vaccin putting million in danger. THe consensus was clear at the time, period. If you are one of those science denier, do not even try to talk about science with me.

This will not be met with respect.

cience" can kiss my butt when it comes to political hot topics like this.

Then, do not not be mad if I call you an ignorant on this question.

It's your choice not to trust science and the scientific process because you are incapable of thinking straight. Not science's fault.

I'm not going to blindly trust any so-called "scientists"

Then get the F. out of Trans related issues and topics.

YOU HAVE NOTHING INTERESTING TO SAY.

This is literally just a whole lot of talking without saying anything.

No, this is you not understanding. But after you last comment, I'm not surprised.

They're saying gender is real, your biological sex influence gender roles, but they feel like it's wrong..
So they are pretty much just admitting that this has nothing to do with actual reality, but just their feelings.

No. And I won't explain because at this stage, you wouldn't even understand the half of the argument.

Literally a non-issue, if you want to arbitrarily allocate different definitions to what gender and biological sex is, then be my guest, you're achieving nothing at all.

You have nothing to say about the reality of the issues in society science denier as long as you refuse to accept a way to look at them.

It is a choice.
If it isn't, then it is forced upon you - that can't possibly be a good thing, can it?

Ok, I think I met the frontiere of intelligence.

Transidentity is NOT a choice theerefore gender disphoria is NOT a choice therefore GAS are NOT a choice when they are needed you BRILLIANT wanabee Gyro Gearloose.

GA surgery is not a life saving surgery to any extent.

Oh For F sake Usopp save me.

You have working lungs, you have a beating heart, you have a healthy liver, you don't have a brain tumor, you aren't mortally wounded or suffering from severe bloodloss due to having gender dysphoria - you are not in imminent danger of dying.

Est ce que tu te fous de ma gueule là ?

Go say to a person in depression that wants to end their lives that they are not in danger of dying just to see their reaction you moraly incorrect Hippocrates.

removing yourself from trom the genepool is a choice

Did you have a date with Dark Vader ? What's the deal here ?

And yes, I am aware that depression is a mental illness that is very real and affect you in very real ways, it needs to be taken seriously and treated like any other illness where getting healthy and winning over the illness is the goal.

The me of the past*

Right now, you are arguing to prevent people from getting their help.

You do not F. understand that gender Disphoria has the SAME impact on a person will to live as depression.

You need to stop seing hate and "phobia" in every little thing that doesn't immideatly resonate with you.

I think you need to educate yourself before talking about topics you are completely uneducated about.

I am not defending the scorn and unpleasantries they may experience, but I am saying that one should be aware, prepared and understand that they may face unpleasant interactions, stigma, difficult questions, moral dillemmas - and so on and so forth.

Which is called "being prepared to Transphobia". Trans people don't need you to know that Transphobia exist.

What we are trying to tell you and other people like you is that we should not accept transphobia as a normal part of society just like we should not allow sexism to be normal or Racism or Ableism.

And if those little words scare you, learn the reasons why we are using them.

That doesn't mean you have to take it all laying down, you should very well stand up for yourself, but by all means don't be obnoxious about it.

Oh I will be obnoxious about it. I will even be arrogant with you because at the moment you are advocating for kids not to be treated for something that can lead them to suicide.

So I'm sorry if I appear a little bit disrespectfull at the moment. I started this conversation thinking that you had good intention of learning. I see now that you had none and has absolutely no knowledge about the subject. Not even this but you are even spitting anti-scientific rethoric.

So excuuuuuuse me. But you lost my respect.

Sure, it is a mental illness like depression, so it is tangible in that sense, but this whole separation of gender and sex is completely arbitrary and completely inconsequential.

No. it's a scientific consensus and a sociological observation.

Again, if you want to talk about reality, talk to it through science and the lives of people in questions. Until you start doing that, you will have ZERO valuable argumentation.

lmao, that doesn't disprove anything - even though you're trying to extrapolate some nonexistant meaning from the comparison I made.

While alcoholism and gender dysphoria is completely different in nature, doesn't mean a comparison cannot be made.
For someone who's so broad minded as you should know better than to think binary.

The one thinking in binary at the moment is you mate. Take your own lesson. Try to open your mind to things you don't understand.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Any last minute predictions on the election?

 

[NAMELESS]

Any last minute predictions on the election?

Trump survives another terrorist attack. Sleepy Joe trips and falls again.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Trump survives another terrorist attack. Sleepy Joe trips and falls again.

I hate to tell you Nameless but Biden hasn't been on the ballot since July 18th.

 

[Zenos7]

Jazz Jennings.

According to a quick wikipedia search, she had the surgery when she was 18

 

[NikaInParis]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Global_News_Hub/comments/1giokdv

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Thoughts about the Moldovan election? I think the biggest irregularities so far were:
-they only opened 2 polling stations in Russia, where it seems each station only had 5000 ballots. This despite the Moldovan population there being probably in the hundreds of thousands;
-the bridge to Transnistria was closed due to a bomb threat, preventing many people there from voting;
-some bomb threats in the West also caused some polling stations to be closed, not sure if they managed to work in the end.

 

[Logiko]

Any last minute predictions on the election?

May the least fascist win

 

[Blax Blah]

Thoughts about the Moldovan election? I think the biggest irregularities so far were:
-they only opened 2 polling stations in Russia, where it seems each station only had 5000 ballots. This despite the Moldovan population there being probably in the hundreds of thousands;
-the bridge to Transnistria was closed due to a bomb threat, preventing many people there from voting;
-some bomb threats in the West also caused some polling stations to be closed, not sure if they managed to work in the end.

If you want to we can talk about it and I would love to, could you please link some articles or videos about it from where you got that information?,

I didn't look into it,
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[Brush D. Teeth]

If you want to we can talk about it and I would love to, could you please link some articles or videos about it from where you got that information?,

I didn't look into it,

Sure.
-Polling stations;
-Bridge;
-West.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Kamala’s hope right now is huge working class Mum voting in mass for her .

Most polls showing tie could be false . I don’t think it’s as tight as 2000 presidential elections.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Kamala’s hope right now is huge working class Mum voting in mass for her .

Most polls showing tie could be false . I don’t think it’s as tight as 2000 presidential elections.

Polls are only accurate if you can predict who will show up to vote.

 

[Poorsalino Cooker]

In the matter. Not in every aspect of the kids life.

There are ZERO reasons for parents to have a say in the descision of a basic need for a kid. Zero.

They can give informations, details, context. But say "yes" or "no" should not be their prerogative on the matter. We are talking - again - about a BASIC need. Like drinking or eating. We are not talking about giving a driving license here.

Posts like these only reaffirm my suspicion that Logiko is some kind of extraterrestrial who has a very poor grasp on the norms of the human species. If not that, I can't imagine what sort of batshit insane background he must've come from.

Ambassador Logiko of Zeta Reticuli, I must inform you that in our species, children are normally not genetically engineered in tanks with fully grown prime adult bodies nor do they have the whole sum of human knowledge and experiences uploaded into them at birth by the supreme cyber-gestalt Elder Brain so that they do not require guidance of any kind and can freely begin selecting their ideologies, sex, or job in the hivemind's food manufacturing outpost as soon as they pop out of the nutritional newfu-based embryonic goop. Most humans have these things called 'families', 'societies', and 'life experiences' they must go through first before they can truly have a grasp at what defines their existence.

 

[Logiko]

Posts like these only reaffirm my suspicion that Logiko is some kind of extraterrestrial who has a very poor grasp on the norms of the human species. If not that, I can't imagine what sort of batshit insane background he must've come from.

The future mate. I come from the future. Over there, people understand that children are not parent's playtoy and know how to differenciate basic needs from basic educations.

 

[Mathias]

What does that famous Iowa poll that gives Kamala victorious supposed to mean ?

Any last minute predictions on the election?

We’ve been asking for various polls for years but only get one for the US elections a day before

 

[AL sama]

We’ve been asking for various polls for years but only get one for the US elections a day before

allow me to delete it xD

its mostly van and me who mod this section and we're kinda the no fun duo of the team

 

[Mathias]

This time Elon Musk will be blamed for the elections.

allow me to delete it xD

its mostly van and me who mod this section and we're kinda the no fun duo of the team

I'm no hoe, I won't eat crumbs. It's either all or nothing

 

[Zenos7]

Trust science" they said when they were pushing the vaccines as if it was the wonder elixir that would cure covid, and then the story went from it cures it from it prevents spreading, to it doesn't prevent spreading it but it makes it less likely you get sick from covid - to then pushing you to take jab after jab after jab after jab, threatening skeptics with excommunication from society if they resist.

This is incredibly untrue.

Vaccines generally dont cure a disease. And the relevant professionals never claimed it would stop people from getting covid either. They were pretty clear from the beginning, that it mainly reduces risk of severe symptoms.

You are confusing media nutjobs and politicians making wrong statememts with what the scientists were saying
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All the while, not to mention, deliberately hiding and withholding knowledge of medicines that were actually proven to be effective against covid, like ivermectin among others.

Ivermectin wasnt proven to be effective and they were still researching medicine for covid on top of the vaccines
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Isn't it just so very very convenient to just "trust science" when it comes to some contemporary issue that has blown up in recent years - most likely to create discord within society at large, to distract us from actual problems and big corp schemes for power and control, etc.?

Science is convenient because of how good it works as a self-improving system.

Mind you that its always other scientists improving previous scientific research and never conspiracy nutjobs lol

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Scientific research clearly has its limits.

 

[Zenos7]

Scientific research clearly has its limits.

So? That doesnt diminish what it can do