I don't remember mentionning the genocide here. I was more reflecting on the abnegation of humanitarian and social services on place, but also the resistance of Palestinian who defied the apartheid regime by keeping hope while being exterminated.

Do you think the genocide of Gazan was the reason for the opinion to turn against Israel ?
I think “the resistance” cares more about their agenda than the lives of their own people
 
When has a genocide ever ended with the genociding party agreeing to a ceasefire?
While it was not a ceasefire, the Bosnian genocide ended with a peace accord which included the cessation of hostilities.

Your argument is absolutely irrelevant.


I think “the resistance” cares more about their agenda than the lives of their own people
Can you answer my question please ?

Do you think the genocide of Gazan was the reason for the opinion to turn against Israel ?
 
Don't be such a fatalist
:lawsigh: what historical amnesia does to a mf...
Although fuck Solis lmao.
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Sure, but, fuck it; I'm rather someone I hate gargle Putin's balls a bit than watch Ukranian and Russian kids kill each other for no fucking reason.
Problem is if Trump has Ukrain surrender their eastern territories to Russia, other neighboring countries are at risk of further invasions, and when China thinks they can get away with conquering the whole Pacific that's exactly what they will attempt to do.
. I personally believe the technology, vaccination, can be used properly, and that it's being corrupted/misused by rich trash, but, at this point, we need serious scientific double-blind studies that prove the safety of modern vaccinations not just in the short term, but long term
This. And no corporate paid take studies and no coverups.
 

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If you can't see the shift in the international opinion following this genocide, I can't help you. Remember that the goal is for Israel to stop its colonization and appartheid on top of stopping killing people in Gaza.

The Palestinian abnegation and resistance managed to turn a world that had not much to say about the conflict from fear of being called antisemitic into a planet that is now completely riled up against the colonialism of Israel. I don't hate Israel, I'm against their politic. Something you do not seem to understand.

I've seen rightist and far rightist even agree on this, this is how radical the change was.

As for glazing. I glaze Palestinians.
World against Israel you say.

Yet, no one in the world was able to stop Israel.

You need to understand something - countries' don't care about Israel or Palestinians. They care about their stakes and interests.

West has stakes and interest in Israel and they will do everything to ensure Israel keeps on going if war goes on.


Yes we have seen more people being sympathetic towards Palestinian cause but the thing is sympathy won't win you the war....not this one and not in future.
 
Human nature repeats itself
There is no such thing.


World against Israel you say.

Yet, no one in the world was able to stop Israel.

You need to understand something - countries' don't care about Israel or Palestinians. They care about their stakes and interests.

West has stakes and interest in Israel and they will do everything to ensure Israel keeps on going if war goes on.


Yes we have seen more people being sympathetic towards Palestinian cause but the thing is sympathy won't win you the war....not this one and not in future.
Sorry I thing you missunderstood what I meant. When I'm saying "the world", I'm talking about the population, not the 0.00001% that compose the states and governements. I'm not talking about countries like states but countries like nations. Those two things are different.

Today, the world is against the apartheid of Israel.

It won't won us the war today, yes. But it will create the path to stop Israel's action in the future. Truth takes its time, but it always arrives.
 

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This is why leftists are gloating about the resistance’s “win” despite said resistance starting a war that slaughtered their own people
No one wins the war. Everyone loses.

Nothing was gained. Not even sympathy for Palestinians because people have short term memory. By the time next war will happen in years in future, this movement and its support would die down. That's how it always happen.
There is no such thing.



Sorry I thing you missunderstood what I meant. When I'm saying "the world", I'm talking about the population, not the 0.00001% that compose the states and governements. I'm not talking about countries like states but countries like nations. Those two things are different.

Today, the world is against the apartheid of Israel.

It won't won us the war today, yes. But it will create the path to stop Israel's action in the future. Truth takes its time, but it always arrives.
You can keep on waiting for the path because as long as Israel enjoys overwhelming resources from the west and other countries, Palestinians can't win with resistance.

The world you keep on bringing isn't reliable. They forget, they even change their stance, they flip flop. Support you are seeing today might not even exist few years down the line.


But what will definitely exist - is broader foreign policy framework of the west and other countries supporting Israel
 

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Nothing was gained. Not even sympathy for Palestinians because people have short term memory. By the time next war will happen in years in future, this movement and its support would die down. That's how it always happen.
You can thank the media and their attempts at constant bombardment of news on events that happen around the world for that.
 
The world you keep on bringing isn't reliable. They forget, they even change their stance, they flip flop. Support you are seeing today might not even exist few years down the line.
I'm not taking Israel into question here.

The lack of support for Palestine is one of the reasons why democrates lost, it's also one of the reasons why the radical left is winning in France. Step by step, the supports of Israel are being pressured into the exit. Multiple generations are waking up at the same time.

It might not be now, it might now be tomorrow, but trust me, it's coming. And on this day, it will be too late for fascists enablers to say "I'm sorry".

We don't live in utopia just yet. The forgiveness I'm trying to promote here will not be applied.
 

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Is this an attempt at threatening some of the user base here?

You frequently bring up the term 'fascist' in your posts, and it’s not unreasonable for me to assume that this specific word is aimed at certain people who post in this thread.

I also didn't see you being appreciative of Trump's actions for this month either, even though his involvement was the key to ending the one-sided destruction between Israel and Palestine (Biden attempted to take credit for this but he can take a hike.).
 
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Is this an attempt at threatening some of the user base here?

You frequently bring up the term 'fascist' in your posts, and it’s not unreasonable for me to assume that this specific word is aimed at certain people who post in this thread.

I also didn't see you being appreciative of Trump's actions for this month either, even though his involvement was the key to ending the one-sided destruction between Israel and Palestine (Biden attempted to take credit for this but he can take a hike.).
I'm talking about all fascists enablers all over the world. It's not a question of violence, but international right and social stigma.

Those who legitimized or tried to invisibilize this genocide will be caught by History and since it will be much sooner that the arrival of Utopia:

-> Politics will be brought to justice.
-> Influencers will be boycotted and shamed.
-> People will be oxtracized if they are not already

What I'm saying is that we are not living in a nice world at the moment. This is not a game. It will be TOO LATE for people to apologize in front of the wall.

The genocide of Gaza is not some invention created by leftists. It's a HIGHLY DOCUMENTED fact that only lacks the proper legal investigation. The recognition of this genocide is only a question of time and with it, the responsibility of those who tried to defend Israel's actions will be revealed.

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Also, to anyone who praises Trump for having done absolutely ziltch..

I know you do not understand why Israel is suddenly accepting a deal now out of all time, that is similar to the one that was proposed to them last year, but I have faith that the true nature of Trump's project will shine soon enough for you to understand just how deluded you were.

As for some of the people here who had the behavior i'm denouncing in this post. You will have to live with yourself and the idea that you tried to justify what is happening here.

And trust me. Guilt is a B*tch.
 
Please at least no more genocide
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I'm talking about all fascists enablers all over the world. It's not a question of violence, but international right and social stigma.

Those who legitimized or tried to invisibilize this genocide will be caught by History and since it will be much sooner that the arrival of Utopia:

-> Politics will be brought to justice.
-> Influencers will be boycotted and shamed.
-> People will be oxtracized if they are not already

What I'm saying is that we are not living in a nice world at the moment. This is not a game. It will be TOO LATE for people to apologize in front of the wall.

The genocide of Gaza is not some invention created by leftists. It's a HIGHLY DOCUMENTED fact that only lacks the proper legal investigation. The recognition of this genocide is only a question of time and with it, the responsibility of those who tried to defend Israel's actions will be revealed.

--------

Also, to anyone who praises Trump for having done absolutely ziltch..

I know you do not understand why Israel is suddenly accepting a deal now out of all time, that is similar to the one that was proposed to them last year, but I have faith that the true nature of Trump's project will shine soon enough for you to understand just how deluded you were.

As for some of the people here who had the behavior i'm denouncing in this post. You will have to live with yourself and the idea that you tried to justify what is happening here.

And trust me. Guilt is a B*tch.
Either way it's not about being guilty, it's about repenting, I haven't considered that people will feel guilt in the future for having supported it, they probably will, but in my opinion that guilt should be forgotten the moment it's felt and instead efforts should be made to help the jewish people and the palestinian people, not to dwell in guilt,
 
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but in my opinion that guilt should be forgotten the moment it's felt and instead efforts should be made to help the jewish people and the palestinian people, not to dwell in guilt,
I agree. But I'm not sure the rest of the world will do it once they have the confirmation that some people tried to legitimize a genocide.
 
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