Controversial General Political Discussion

[Adamxero]

@Adamxero @Logiko would you like to look together to try to see what is fascism?

Facism is a tyrannical form of leadership which allows no free thinking and you must fall in line and on the whims of a leader no matter what.

I believe fascism can come from all side of the political spectrum whether that is using violence or intimidation to silence your political opponents or using means to stop them from talking.

Free speech isn't free if it isn't for everyone so because someone said something someone may not like or agree with this doesn't make them a fascist. Fascism should be called out when an action towards fascism is done so when Trump and Elon start throwing people in camps and murdering them etc I'll hold back on the their Nazi's and fascists name calling
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How about scientists ?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1882080785018024160

Oh yes, I went to the left, but not to the far left. The world on the other hand drastically moved to the right. To a point where people like you are defending people like him who support fascist rethoric.

That's funny

Yeah cause a scientist is the greatest political expert. I bet you hundred of scientists having different opinions on this or is this going to be like Covid where there's one scientist who is the supreme leader of all science.

Using a French scientist lol. I'm European as well and I know all to well how anti Trump France, Germany and the UK are.

You're on the far left or whatever that is you have been for years Carrot4Nakama don't try fool me. I remember you back from the Next Nakama thread during Wano with some wild takea. Yeah the world is going right because the pendulum has swung to far left and I'm sure in a few years again it'll swing left however going the way you are it'll be a long while for that.

Also your Elon clip is edited lmao at least don't manipulate video footage. See you cut out the part where Elon says his heart goes out to everyone which is why he extended his hand to everyone at the audience.

 

[Logiko]

Yeah cause a scientist is the greatest political expert.

Well when said scientist is a renowned Historian specialized in Nazism and fascism, then yeah, in this case it is.

Using a French scientist lol. I'm European as well and I know all to well how anti Trump France, Germany and the UK are.

You're on the far left or whatever that is you have been for years Carrot4Nakama don't try fool me. I remember you back from the Next Nakama thread during Wano with some wild takea. Yeah the world is going right because the pendulum has swung to far left and I'm sure in a few years again it'll swing left however going the way you are it'll be a long while for that.

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[Adamxero]

Well when said scientist is a renowned Historian specialized in Nazism and fascism, then yeah, in this case it is.


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And I showed you a clip of an actual holocaust survivor saying you're wrong about Trump and his side.

I'll take the lived experience over a survivor than someone who read about facism.

Worst Nazi in history if he is one lmfao

 

[Logiko]

And I showed you a clip of an actual holocaust survivor saying you're wrong about Trump and his side.

I'll take the lived experience over a survivor than someone who read about facism.

It's because someone lived an atrocity that they understand everything about it. It's like saying "I was punched once, so now I understand everything about boxing" this is not how science works.

In fact, little reminder that descendants of the holocaust just perpetuated a genocide mate.

You should be wise to use science and the words of scientists instead of one testimony that - alone - has no scientific value.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

damn, yet here you were shitting on him relentlessly before he started campaigning with Trump. what a coincidence dude!!!!

You're so laughably disingenuous. It's clear to me that you don't believe in anything.

In general, I don't remember writing that much shit about Musk and I don't think I am praising him now.
That fact that you don't think I believe in anything is curious.

 

[Adamxero]

It's because someone lived an atrocity that they understand everything about it. It's like saying "I was punched once, so now I understand everything about boxing" this is not how science works.

In fact, little reminder that descendants of the holocaust just perpetuated a genocide mate.

You should be wise to use science and the words of scientists instead of one testimony that - alone - has no scientific value.

So in your words discount the holocaust survivor because they don't fit your narrative okay gotchu. ADF said he wasn't doing a nazi salute so we can get experts on either side saying one thing or the other depending on their political belief.

I like to think I give someone the benefit of the doubt when they've never shown anti Israel sentiments previously nor have they said anything about killing Jews ever.

Ah so there we go. I wonder if you also give the pro Palestinian people chanting from the river to the sea regarding Israel the same treatment you're giving Elon cause if you're not smells a lot like hypocrisy to me.

 

[Punk Rotten]

So many delusional Elon bros and Trump worshippers (some are closet ones) in the thread. Not surprised.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

So many delusional Elon bros and Trump worshippers (some are closet ones) in the thread. Not surprised.

Weeb forum

 

[Logiko]

So in your words discount the holocaust survivor because they don't fit your narrative okay gotchu.

Not because they don't fit my narrative, because a testimony of a random person is not a scientific conclusion or even simple observation based on data, researches and knowledge of a real life context, contrary to the man I shared who actually studied the subject heavily and has been analyzing the rise of the far right in the world for a long time.

ADF said he wasn't doing a nazi salute

Yes because everybody knows that fascists will exposes their supporters.

so we can get experts on either side saying one thing or the other depending on their political belief.

Well, good luck with that lmao

I like to think I give someone the benefit of the doubt when they've never shown anti Israel sentiments previously nor have they said anything about killing Jews ever.

It's crazy how you do not understand the link between zionism and Nazism. It's really baffling from my point of you.

It's literally two types of FAR RIGHT and FASCISTS imperialistic and colonial projects.

The ones defending Trump are LITERALLY the SAME who defended Israel and it's genocide !!

 

[Adamxero]

So many delusional Elon bros and Trump worshippers (some are closet ones) in the thread. Not surprised.

Maybe you should go to reddit then I hear the subreddit there will cater to your more delicate feelings.
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Not because they don't fit my narrative, because a testimony of a random person is not a scientific conclusion or even simple observation based on data, researches and knowledge of a real life context, contrary to the man I shared who actually studied the subject heavily and has been analyzing the rise of the far right in the world for a long time.


Yes because everybody knows that fascists will exposes their supporters.




Well, good luck with that lmao



It's crazy how you do not understand the link between zionism and Nazism. It's really baffling from my point of you.

It's literally two types of FAR RIGHT and FASCISTS imperialistic and colonial projects.

The ones defending Trump are LITERALLY the SAME who defended Israel and it's genocide !!

I'm not breaking your quote up but all the stuff about data and research etc reminds me when you'd try to bring your own essays as to why Carrot would join the crew and anyone who didn't believe in your essays was misinformed or not informed lmao.

Your literal argument of Elon being a Nazi falls on look he did a pose with his arm extended yet there's nothing you have via his actions prior to this to indicate it.

Ah so there's more than one far right now. I think you're in your own head to much and purposefully misinterpret people who don't hold the same political beliefs as you to demonise and invalidate their argument.

On one hand you're saying Elon and Trump are Nazi's then on the other you're saying how dare they support Israel. Make it make sense. You're completely all over the spectrum to try jump through hoops to make people you disagree with politically look bad.

 

[Afroking]

It was never used in ancient Rome. This was an extrapolation from a painting and an appropriation by fascist.

Everyone, from New-York to New Delhi know the meaning behind this salute. There is no excuses. Musk has supported a neo Nazi friendly party, supported Nazi on twitter, spreaded Nazi rethoric himself.

He KNOWS what he is doing.

Yes dude,I said how it was depicted in that movie gif and memes. Musk is cringe guy liking stupid memes. This shit is close to his next project(make europe great again) What better way than a "Roman" salute Mussolini brought up .

It is a fascist one,not a Nazi one..
Fascist states used as well not just Hitler..

How can you even quote and blue font the text that text that says it is a fascist one and still cling on Nazism...

 

[Logiko]

Yes dude,I said how it was depicted in that movie gif and memes. Musk is cringe guy liking stupid memes. This shit is close to his next project(make europe great again) What better way than a "Roman" salute Mussolini brought up .

It is a fascist one,not a Nazi one..
Fascist states used as well not just Hitler..

How can you even quote and blue font the text that text that says it is a fascist one and still cling on Nazism...

Did this guy just told me the Nazi salute was a fascist one, not a Nazi one ?

 

[Punk Rotten]

Maybe you should go to reddit then I hear the subreddit there will cater to your more delicate feelings.
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Feel attacked? Described you to a T huh?

 

[Afroking]

Did this guy just told me the Nazi salute was a fascist one, not a Nazi one ?

Yes... Fascism and Nazism aren't the same shit ...They have differences.

One could say what Bukiele has pulled is fascist. You would be stupid to say he is a Nazi pig.

 

[Adamxero]

Feel attacked? Described you to a T huh?

Right back at you lol

 

[Punk Rotten]

Yes... Fascism and Nazism aren't the same shit ...They have differences.

One could say what Bukiele has pulled is fascist. You would be stupid to say he is a Nazi pig.

The salute is Nazi period. Why is this even a conversation.

Stop trying to avoid the obvious or normalize this shit.

It’s such an apparent tactic at this point

 

[Blax Blah]

Let's not insult each other please

Yes... Fascism and Nazism aren't the same shit ...They have differences.

One could say what Bukiele has pulled is fascist. You would be stupid to say he is a Nazi pig.

I did read the writing ur fascism, it's not very long but it talks about general characteristics of fascist states, nazism would be a version of fascism specific to 1940s Germany wouldn't it?

 

[Logiko]

On one hand you're saying Elon and Trump are Nazi's then on the other you're saying how dare they support Israel. Make it make sense. You're completely all over the spectrum to try jump through hoops to make people you disagree with politically look bad.

Yeah nevermind. It's as useless as ever to discuss here.

Yes... Fascism and Nazism aren't the same shit ...They have differences.

One could say what Bukiele has pulled is fascist. You would be stupid to say he is a Nazi pig.

I'm talking about fascism is field that is Nazism as in the ethnocentrism of Nazism. (i'm sure you know what I'm talking about here, right ?)

I'm talking of Elon as being influence by fascism but most of all by nazism.

Again > race purity > Ethnical cleansing > Deportations based on racial stereotypes etc.

This salute is a nazi one. Intended to be interpreted by neo nazis.

 

[Afroking]

Let's not insult each other please



I did read the writing ur fascism, it's not very long but it talks about general characteristics of fascist states, nazism would be a version of fascism specific to 1940s Germany wouldn't it?

Nazism sure is the Germanic fascist state but it has has general differnces to its core that I don't think have been mentioned to other fascist states...

None outside of Germany focused on some race superioty (aryan) and heavy persection and antisemetic views as Hitler imposed.

Fascist states used the glory of the past of their nation and praise it sure .

I would personally say dictatorship and fascism are closer than 3rd reich ...

 

[Zenos7]

Third, please Ravager, Zenos and Uncle Van, can I ask you to a watch a video that's around 40 minutes?

Sure. I wont necessarily watch it though