Controversial General Political Discussion

[Bisoromi Bear]

That error was created by the lack of regulation in the hazardous scientific environement. Not because some want to make vaccine a necessity.

Were you there?

The social stigma pushed people who refused at first to get the vaccine anyway.

No. I never got it.

This is called survival social pressure.

The same pressure that makes sheep jump of a cliff when the leader does it. It doesn't help us survive, rather the opposite. But most people are more scared of social rejection than of dying.

If wewant to fight the actual culprit, we need to all do what radical leftist are doing right now :

Fight systems
Fight the ruling class
Fight all systems of oppression.
Push people to understand that with bad material conditions, bad situation such as theis virus leak will happen again and again.

Yet you are here also saying that it's a good thing to shame people for having a different approach to life than you and if they don't agree they have to be pressured into submission. This never works long term. It's a way to produce extremists.
Most people won't listen to your good points after you already tried to psychologically subdue them and belittled their suffering. They'll see you as the enemy and will treat you accordingly.
Learn how humans function for fuck's sake.

There are no real individual culprit. Our systems are the problem.

Throwing in this line acting like you're the first person in history who ever had this idea.
This self righteous attitude is why you're unwilling to understand the other side. You're giving the impression that you value yourself and your right to speek higher than the issues we're discussing here.

Soviet Union aura was definitely huge. Having spies within the Manhattan project was radical. But they lost incredible aura once their God Stalin died.

And now at least one sits in the White House. Y'all are sleeping on the rising dragon big time. Belt and road is the future fellas, buckle up🇨🇳

 

[Mathias]

Stalin was a genius. Unfortunately, he was a bad man.

From robbing banks for Lenin to ruling over the biggest country in the world. The real American dream

And now at least one sits in the White House. Y'all are sleeping on the rising dragon big time. Belt and road is the future fellas, buckle up🇨🇳

I have the African mindset « China or Westerners, what difference in the end ? »

 

[Rej]

watch this lol, this is some next level stuff

 

[NAMELESS]

watch this lol, this is some next level stuff

I love conspiracies.

 

[Logiko]

Were you there?

"I don't need to. Things can be explained much more simply by understanding how this could happen. China has a corrupt system with huge regulatory issues, so it's not surprising that they fail in areas like virus labs. The lack of care or proper regulation leads to problems, whether human-related or material. And that seems to be the case here.

The world is much simpler than the idea of a 'big bad' acting in the shadows. The 'big bad' acts in broad daylight. The notion that this was some kind of scheme to force us to get vaccinated -either to sell more vaccines or to make us sick and sell even more - is purely idealistic. It stems from a desire to find deep meaning in simple events and from the general stupidity of humankind.

I know that feeling well. It's exactly why I became a conspiracy theorist in the first place. But the world isn't that complicated - or rather, yes, it is, but it's much more material and grounded than people think.

The COVID leak was simply the result of a broken system.

No. I never got it.

Then you are in danger. You do not understand how dangerous Covid can be.

Covid is not a simple flue, it's a Virus that can attack a LOT of things (motors function, respiratory system, heart, neural damages etc.). I'm NOT joking. You are in danger !

That guy that I talked about got Covid, it seems to be nothing until it transformed into a long Covid and in just a few month, it put him in so much pain that :

- He couldn't Eat
- He couldn't Sleep
- He couldn't Sit
- He couldn't Enjoy anything
- He pushed him in constant tortorous pain

The guy was exhausted and suffering Hell on earth, which pushed him into depression and emotionnal trauma. A situation so hardcore that he KILLED himself to stop suffering.

I'm not joking about Covid. PROTECT YOURSELF ! Don't think that it only happens to your neighboor.

The same pressure that makes sheep jump of a cliff when the leader does it. It doesn't help us survive, rather the opposite. But most people are more scared of social rejection than of dying.

In this case, it did help us.

Yet you are here also saying that it's a good thing to shame people for having a different approach to life than you and if they don't agree they have to be pressured into submission. This never works long term. It's a way to produce extremists.
Most people won't listen to your good points after you already tried to psychologically subdue them and belittled their suffering. They'll see you as the enemy and will treat you accordingly.
Learn how humans function for fuck's sake.

When it's a question of life and death, it's not a matter of approach anymore. I'm sorry if you felt rejected because you didn't want to take the vaccine but humanity was on the verge of semi-extinction.

Taking the vaccine was necessary. It was not a game and it was not a theory. It was a real situation of danger for all of us.

You not taking Vaccine means that you have more chance to either get the virus or spread the virus. I'm sorry if that does makes you tick because of your fears of doctors but people who refused that were not only putting themselves in danger, but OTHERS TOO.

And it's still the case. Covid might be less dangerous than before, but it can still push you and others toward hell. Don't underestimate the danger.

People who refused that vaccine while keeping their day to day routine with others acted selfishly. They choosed to put people who are "weaker" in danger unecessarily. So yeah, I'm not gonna be very nice with them.

Throwing in this line acting like you're the first person in history who ever had this idea.
This self righteous attitude is why you're unwilling to understand the other side. You're giving the impression that you value yourself and your right to speek higher than the issues we're discussing here.

If you have heard this already then why are you not understanding it ?

This is the rationnal and materialistic approach. If you want to fight Fairy tales go for it, butI think you are intelligent enough to understand that the reality is a bit more simpler.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

"I don't need to. Things can be explained much more simply by understanding how this could happen. China has a corrupt system with huge regulatory issues, so it's not surprising that they fail in areas like virus labs. The lack of care or proper regulation leads to problems, whether human-related or material. And that seems to be the case here.

The world is much simpler than the idea of a 'big bad' acting in the shadows. The 'big bad' acts in broad daylight. The notion that this was some kind of scheme to force us to get vaccinated -either to sell more vaccines or to make us sick and sell even more - is purely idealistic. It stems from a desire to find deep meaning in simple events and from the general stupidity of humankind.

I know that feeling well. It's exactly why I became a conspiracy theorist in the first place. But the world isn't that complicated - or rather, yes, it is, but it's much more material and grounded than people think.

The COVID leak was simply the result of a broken system.



Then you are in danger. You do not understand how dangerous Covid can be.

Covid is not a simple flue, it's a Virus that can attack a LOT of things (motors function, respiratory system, heart, neural damages etc.). I'm NOT joking. You are in danger !

That guy that I talked about got Covid, it seems to be nothing until it transformed into a long Covid and in just a few month, it put him in so much pain that :

- He couldn't Eat
- He couldn't Sleep
- He couldn't Sit
- He couldn't Enjoy anything
- He pushed him in constant tortorous pain

The guy was exhausted and suffering Hell on earth, which pushed him into depression and emotionnal trauma. A situation so hardcore that he KILLED himself to stop suffering.

I'm not joking about Covid. PROTECT YOURSELF ! Don't think that it only happens to your neighboor.



In this case, it did help us.



When it's a question of life and death, it's not a matter of approach anymore. I'm sorry if you felt rejected because you didn't want to take the vaccine but humanity was on the verge of semi-extinction.

Taking the vaccine was necessary. It was not a game and it was not a theory. It was a real situation of danger for all of us.

You not taking Vaccine means that you have more chance to either get the virus or spread the virus. I'm sorry if that does makes you tick because of your fears of doctors but people who refused that were not only putting themselves in danger, but OTHERS TOO.

And it's still the case. Covid might be less dangerous than before, but it can still push you and others toward hell. Don't underestimate the danger.

People who refused that vaccine while keeping their day to day routine with others acted selfishly. They choosed to put people who are "weaker" in danger unecessarily. So yeah, I'm not gonna be very nice with them.



If you have heard this already then why are you not understanding it ?

This is the rationnal and materialistic approach. If you want to fight Fairy tales go for it, butI think you are intelligent enough to understand that the reality is a bit more simpler.

I've survived Covid like twice iirc. It's not that bad

 

[Logiko]

I've survived Covid like twice iirc. It's not that bad

You got lucky.

 

[NAMELESS]

I've survived Covid like twice iirc. It's not that bad

Me too, but it made me lose hair for a couple of months. I heard about people losing teeth.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Me too, but it made me lose hair for a couple of months. I heard about people losing teeth.

What the fuck???

 

[Mathias]

Me too, but it made me lose hair for a couple of months. I heard about people losing teeth.

Nah bro you just started balding. Welcome to the Vegeta club.

I've survived Covid like twice iirc. It's not that bad

Had Covid like 8 times

 

[Logiko]

Nah bro you just started balding. Welcome to the Vegeta club.



Had Covid like 8 times

Yeah, some people are lucky and there is no long Covid, most of the time because they had one or two vaccines, but for others it only takes once.

This virus is really not something we must underestimate.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Then you are in danger. You do not understand how dangerous Covid can be.

I understand how dangerous vaccines can be.

When it's a question of life and death, it's not a matter of approach anymore. I'm sorry if you felt rejected because you didn't want to take the vaccine but humanity was on the verge of semi-extinction.

Some things might be worse than death, such as living in dysfunctional societies where everyone eats each other

 

[Logiko]

I understand how dangerous vaccines can be.

You do not understand the benefit/risk balance.

Some things might be worse than death, such as living in dysfunctional societies where everyone eats each other

Indeed. And having long Covid in some cases can actually be worse than death. Hence why the person I'm talking about took their life out.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Indeed. And having long Covid in some cases can actually be worse than death. Hence why the person I'm talking about took their life out.

You don't need long COVID to get those kinda symptoms. Educate yourself. Vaccine damage is a thing , i know about that first hand


And tbh I'm bored of this dumb conversation that belongs in 2021. Talk to the wall.

 

[Logiko]

You don't need long COVID to get those kinda symptoms. Educate yourself. Vaccine damage is a thing , i know about that first hand


And tbh I'm bored of this dumb conversation that belongs in 2021. Talk to the wall.

Sigh...

What you don't understand is that it's not just about you. Covid can pass through your body without creating symptoms which makes you an invisible transporter for the virus. The vaccine reduce that effect. Rendering it harder to transmit.

Hence, when you refuse to create that protection, you are putting weaker people around you in danger too.

This is an eugenistic vision, a vision where people like me with health issue do not count. Hence why I'm not kind at people that do not care about creating a protection. It's selfish and ignorant of the danger.

But you do you. I'm done with that too. I need to stop replying here.

 

[NAMELESS]

Nah bro you just started balding. Welcome to the Vegeta club.



Had Covid like 8 times

I didn't. I had a form of Alopecia. My hair has grown back again.
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Sigh...

What you don't understand is that it's not just about you. Covid can pass through your body without creating symptoms which makes you an invisible transporter for the virus. The vaccine reduce that effect. Rendering it harder to transmit.

Hence, when you refuse to create that protection, you are putting weaker people around you in danger too.

This is an eugenistic vision, a vision where people like me with health issue do not count. Hence why I'm not kind at people that do not care about creating a protection. It's selfish and ignorant of the danger.

But you do you. I'm done with that too. I need to stop replying here.

I got vaxxed 3 times and got the disease from people that were vaxxed 4 times. How is that for being effective? You are the most gullible user in this forum.
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From robbing banks for Lenin to ruling over the biggest country in the world. The real American dream




I have the African mindset « China or Westerners, what difference in the end ? »

Chinese have a smaller pipi though...

 

[Mathias]

Yeah, some people are lucky and there is no long Covid, most of the time because they had one or two vaccines, but for others it only takes once.

This virus is really not something we must underestimate.

I had long Covid the first time. Lost my taste for women for half a year and it just came back outta nowhere. I could taste any wine and cheese. Losing taste is really evil.

 

[Logiko]

I got vaxxed 3 times and got the disease from people that were vaxxed 4 times. How is that for being effective? You are the most gullible user in this forum.

You are not dead. This is what is effective. Others don't have that privilege.

I had long Covid the first time. Lost my taste for women for half a year and it just came back outta nowhere. I could taste any wine and cheese. Losing taste is really evil.

Your taste for women ?

 

[NAMELESS]

I had long Covid the first time. Lost my taste for women for half a year and it just came back outta nowhere. I could taste any wine and cheese. Losing taste is really evil.

Your long covid symptom was no fap for 12 months? I would take that over hair loss lol
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You are not dead. This is what is effective. Others don't have that privilege.


Your taste for women ?

Lethality is less than 3% get real.

 

[Mathias]

Your taste for women ?

Yeah lol that’s a joke we used to make. lol