I agree too
US system generate violence

People demonstrating all day long and yelling in front of hospital that practices abortion is horrendous
Being able to be a white supremacist in peace and parading in the street
But the extreme left too with some wild behaviors

and overall the takes being far more extremes in US than in Europe about pretty much all the subjects

UE system is far far far from perfect but US system generates more violence

and obviously the gun policy doesn’t help at all
It can be solved , almost every part of the world solved gun problem .

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Lula is doing shit. You think you know better than me how the situation in my country is?

Lula will be out before Trump. And Trump will leave a sucessor. After Charlie Kirk murder yesterday forget about the left winning the next elections.

Yes, of course Trump wants to help Bolsonaro, because he went through the same thing. Look at that ridiculous judge holding a political trial, condemning Trump but facing no consequences himself. Same shit is happening to Bolsonaro, if they wanted to simply arrest him they'd already do it like they did to many other innocents but they want to kill him politically and they are failling over and over again.
No one is saint . I think ideology level Lula is showing brave face he could have coward and accept Trump’s terms .

Like i said i have less knowledge what goes over in brasil but hopefully we dont want Trump’s friends in powers .
 
I feel for his family, but i feel not much for him

If there is anything I regret about his death is what good of him could have been.

I don't not blame someone to not be sorrowful by this human's death or even feel remotely amused because of his flagrant denial and consideration of loss of human suffering in Palestine whilst being one of the faces of defence of this genocide that still continues today.
it is such a pity he died defending a state that assassinates children and their families and induces famines

I cannot pretend to shed tears for a dude that represented the epitome of evil to his death.

May god do with him whatever befits him.

Condolences to the family.
 
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It’s not what I meant

you can a be a anti abortion if you want

But if your state allows abortion and you’re against that you’re free to protest on the street, to lobby for abortion to be banned again etc

But it is indeed crazy to allow people to demonstrate right in front hospitals and clinics, to threaten doctors and patients, to demonize people and riled them up.

it can only generate violence

the way America is allowing people to be right against each other is crazy and much higher than in Europe
Being legal doesn't equal moral. Before considering legality, one should consider the morality of said law. Evil laws should not be respected or obeyed. Nazi Germany taught us that. I do agree that America goes way too easy on hate speech. Social cohesion is gone. Their society is polarized and getting radicalized.
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It can be solved , almost every part of the world solved gun problem .

U


No one is saint . I think ideology level Lula is showing brave face he could have coward and accept Trump’s terms .

Like i said i have less knowledge what goes over in brasil but hopefully we dont want Trump’s friends in powers .
lol is just posturing. They are all scared shitless of further sanctions and the Magnitsky Law.
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
Here’s the dearly departed celebrating 4500 people being arrested/displaced over the span of two days, tell me why I should care about his wife and kids when he’s thrilled to see that many families get ripped apart…if you have sympathy for him but not everyone else, you’re virtue signaling in the worst way
It’s two different subjects

You can be against his views about immigrants and still be against him being killed

him having those ideas doesn’t mean he deserved to be killed

to be fought, to be named and shit but not killed
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
Being legal doesn't equal moral.
Yeah but the law is the sum of the idea of 350 of Americans (those who voted at least)

Your moral doesn’t matter more than the moral of the guy who voted pro

And again if you disagree there are ways to fights without going against the rights of others


Evil laws should not be respected or obeyed. Nazi Germany taught us that
What I am saying is obviously meant to be looked in a democratic setting where people are electing (freely) other people to make the law etc etc / or people choosing directly

Obviously in a nazi setting or Chinese setting or North Korea the law has not the same quality
 
I feel for his family, but i feel not much for him

If there is anything I regret about his death is what good of him could have been.

I don't not blame someone to not be sorrowful by this human's death or even feel remotely amused because of his flagrant denial and consideration of loss of human suffering in Palestine whilst being one of the faces of defence of this genocide that still continues today.

He died defending genocide such it is such a pity, died defending a state that assassinates children and their families.

I cannot pretend to shed tears for a dude that represented the epitome of evil to his death.


May god do with him whatever befits him.

Condolences to the family.
Where have you been? I rarely see you post these days.
 

CoC: Color of Clowns

Kuma and Ginny #1 Forever
If they want to follow then by all means.
Stop pretending you're for Law when people like them are Illegal.
Not just laws you want enforced.
If they didn't want this to happen, they should have gone through the system legally. Others have done so, why can't they.
Sorry anything you say will be bullshit.
Slavery and the Holocaust were legal.

How you feel about that?

Would you respect laws made by Hitler, or disobey them?

Laws made by criminals aren't justice.

Justice? Just Ice kidnapping children.

Kids died in a school shooting yesterday.

This man advocated child murder.

Guess who the media is crying over?

The kids? Or the guy who said public shootings are necessary?

What Law? Where?

Is it hiding in the Epstein Files, or is it Guantanamo?
 
Slavery and the Holocaust were legal.

How you feel about that?

Would you respect laws made by Hitler, or disobey them?

Laws made by criminals aren't justice.

Justice? Just Ice kidnapping children.

Kids died in a school shooting yesterday.

This man advocated child murder.

Guess who the media is crying over?

The kids? Or the guy who said public shootings are necessary?

What Law? Where?

Is it hiding in the Epstein Files, or is it Guantanamo?
Can you guys actually post the full footage of where this guy said this? Pretty sure he didn't mean that.
 
Slavery and the Holocaust were legal.

How you feel about that?

Would you respect laws made by Hitler, or disobey them?

Laws made by criminals aren't justice.

Justice? Just Ice kidnapping children.

Kids died in a school shooting yesterday.

This man advocated child murder.

Guess who the media is crying over?

The kids? Or the guy who said public shootings are necessary?

What Law? Where?

Is it hiding in the Epstein Files, or is it Guantanamo?
You guys always go for The Holocaust, Always the low bearing fruit.
Get new material. Otherwise I might accuse you all of wanting another one.
Sickos.
 
There will always be those who hyper focus on individual high profile tragedies but the fact of the matter is, that the USA is already in a state of civil conflict. The country is slowly but surely breaking apart and democratic institutions are already under attack. There won't be an easy end to this ultra polarization of US society.
To act like the current state of the US is all about individual acts of violence is ignorant at best, dishonest at worst.
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
It's not about wanting him to die
It's about not feeling sympathy for his death
Even if you disagreed strongly with Kirk and think he was a fucking bastard, it should be normal to say that killing him was a serious crime, that the guy did the wrong thing, that it’s not like that at all that you fight against political ideas and yeah he was still a human with a family and children / child

Having no sympathy means you remove a bit the human aspect of your opponent and it can lead for a group to encourage / trivialize such acts.

that all things considered the guy who killed Kirk didn’t do such a bad thing
 
But honestly, it is silly in my opinion to even base a discussion around the color of someone's skin to begin with.
Morgan Freeman said it the best;
Yeah, I like him as an actor. But the man was completely wrong here.
Racism doesn't magically stop happenning because we stop talking about it. Racism is a systemic domination and exploitation system that create discriminations and domination relationships. It's not a result of bad behaviors.



Yeah yeah, leftism=sainthood, and conservatism is the devil incarnate. Hypocrite.
Not necessessarily. It's a question of understanding of the world.
You said it and showed it yourself, you don't care about being right, or looking at science.
You will deny anything that challenges your own personnal vision.

Your relationship to the political world is based on your beliefs and your mindset, not on the current understanding of reality


Being legal doesn't equal moral. Before considering legality, one should consider the morality of said law. Evil laws should not be respected or obeyed. Nazi Germany taught us that. I do agree that America goes way too easy on hate speech. Social cohesion is gone. Their society is polarized and getting radicalized.
You should consider looking at ethics instead of moral arguments. You are lost
Do you understand that the opposite team can say the exact same thing to justify anything they want ?

That any far right guy can say it’s fair game to make lefties or wokes (in their mind) cower in fear.

And you continue on that path you can justify almost any act of violence.

Yeah things people say can create violence for other people. Saying things isn’t neutral at all I agree. Saying gay people are a problèm or being an ultra anti abortion create risks and danger for those people, in real life. Yes.

But the opposite team can think the same, that the left speech create real danger for their kids, in real life.

There is violence and real life consequences in speeches.

but if you allow people to use violence to fight the ideas you’re against It’s the end. No more democracy.

Its fucking hard, democracy is a long and exhausting way to walk on and the US system is bullshit in some ways but killing or assaulting people isn’t the right way at all. It won’t make you right and won’t at all make the opposite team cower in fear, they will just radicalize more and use the same violence (if they didn’t use it beforehand too).
Depoliticizing much ?
It's like there are only fascist activist and leftist activist shooting at eachothers and never an entire fascist and capitalist system targeting leftist, their allies and marginalized people.

I don't think you are aware of it. But fascist are already killing us.
Maybe you should take a look at political assassination in France. Or... I don't know.. how the fascist system is repressing people all over the world.

It’s two different subjects

You can be against his views about immigrants and still be against him being killed

him having those ideas doesn’t mean he deserved to be killed

to be fought, to be named and shit but not killed
What about Nazis ?
At what point do you consider that a person deserves or not to be killed ? When they make war crimes ? When they participate in a genocide ?

Stop trying to imply that political violence is just an exception with shootings like this one or protest. The ENTIRE system is politically violent. America was forged on a genocide, there is no such thing as an absence of political violence in this world. I saw kids with their skull open by the IDF with not a shread of outrage from people who - like you - are outraged by this political violence.

Welcome to the real world. This is not a safe place.
 
There will always be those who hyper focus on individual high profile tragedies but the fact of the matter is, that the USA is already in a state of civil conflict. The country is slowly but surely breaking apart and democratic institutions are already under attack. There won't be an easy end to this ultra polarization of US society.
To act like the current state of the US is all about individual acts of violence is ignorant at best, dishonest at worst.
You can post something of value when you want. I said that all American here, even thoe that hated Kirk, should be very fucking worried right now. This is a bad sign.
 
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