Controversial General Political Discussion

[Mathias]

Not necessarily true.

Let's suppose 100 people voted for Trump.

There would be significant % of people who voted him just because of him belonging to Republican party. There are always party loyalists (right or left) who always votes for their own party regardless of the leadership.


Then, some voted because of his vision.

Some voted because they didn't like Biden or Harris (If people can vote for Biden or Harris just because they hated Trump and not because they liked Harris or Biden, then the opposite holds true as well)

Some voted because they got brainwashed or misguided by propaganda or fell for the narrative.

Some voted because they found themselves aligned with his manifesto (not the execution but the idea itself)

Only a small percentage of people who voted him would actually be fit to call Fascists.



Now, I don't know what you people are reading but I remember reading article on this so will share...

One of the reason why in past decade or so, Left is losing it's clout across the world is they started labelling people in form of generalization even on slightest of difference of opinion which actually ends up alienating many people and push them to the right.

Labelling people became a tool which actually got misused rather than actually serving its true purpose and it not only drifted people away to the right but it's significance got eroded as well.

Some of it is kinda true especially the regular GOP voters keeping to vote GOP. But this all tantamounts to endorsing a wannabe dictator in the White House in the end. If they were just some kind of conservative at first, they all ended up endorsing Trump. This isn’t early 2016 anymore, we’re almost a decade away.

Do you understand it got misused?

If you people think throwing labels like candies are serving your purpose then be my guest.

But remember, left will continue to lose its base

Left keeps losing but not because of calling fascists what they are.
The whole left in the western world loses because they’re not united and the media are mostly and especially the biggest ones owned by far right wing or very right wing billionaires. Other reasons too, like bi party system in some countries with poorly representative system of election.

There isn’t a single leftwing news channel in France. And when the left unites, they win the elections (but don’t get a government because of Macron who rather ally with the far right…).

 

[AL sama]

Like how calling someone a fascist or nazi has become a replacement for "I disagree with/don't like you."

it's way more than just that no??

nowadays those words can mean just about any and all insult

 

[Ravagerblade]

Do you understand it got misused?

If you people think throwing labels like candies are serving your purpose then be my guest.

But remember, left will continue to lose its base

As they should.

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Like how calling someone a fascist or nazi has become a replacement for "I disagree with/don't like you."

Finally some truth.

 

[MonsterKaido]

You’re absolutely right, my friend… @NAMELESS @Ravagerblade Take a good look at the guy you’re mourning, bitter and hateful from start to finish just like you

Damn...

 

[Ravagerblade]

it's way more than just that no??

nowadays those words can mean just about any and all insult

They call us these names because without it, they don't have anything to actually say.
So they label us the worst, it's all just to make them feel better about themselves, not actual truth and facts.

 

[AL sama]

Left keeps losing but not because of calling fascists what they are.
The whole left in the western world loses because they’re not united and the media are mostly and especially the biggest ones owned by far right wing or very right wing billionaires. Other reasons too, like both party system in some countries with poorly representative system of election.

There isn’t a single leftwing news channel in France. And when the left unites, they win the elections (but don’t get a government because of Macron who rather ally with the far right…).

clearly not his point

 

[Logiko]

Do you understand it got misused?

If you people think throwing labels like candies are serving your purpose then be my guest.

But remember, left will continue to lose its base

Do you understand why we label people on the left?

Finally some truth.

Usually when Ravager is agreeing with you, it trigger an alarm.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Do you understand why we label people on the left?


Usually when Ravager is agreeing with you, it trigger an alarm.

*Golfclap*

 

[Reborn]

Like how calling someone a fascist or nazi has become a replacement for "I disagree with/don't like you."

It goes beyond this.


It became a tool to attack as an insult and silence debate.

And, it's leading to dilution of it's real meaning, that is It trivializes real fascism and its historical horrors. Furthermore, it's leading to polarization.

Some of it is kinda true especially the regular GOP voters keeping to vote GOP. But this all tantamounts to endorsing a wannabe dictator in the White House in the end. If they were just some kind of conservative at first, they all ended up endorsing Trump. This isn’t early 2016 anymore, we’re almost a decade away.



Left keeps losing but not because of calling fascists what they are.
The whole left in the western world loses because they’re not united and the media are mostly and especially the biggest ones owned by far right wing or very right wing billionaires. Other reasons too, like bi party system in some countries with poorly representative system of election.

There isn’t a single leftwing news channel in France. And when the left unites, they win the elections (but don’t get a government because of Macron who rather ally with the far right…).

Read again what I said

Do you understand why we label people on the left?


Usually when Ravager is agreeing with you, it trigger an alarm.

Do you understand it's getting misused and overused?

 

[Jew D. Boy]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CringeTikToks/comments/1ngqkzt More AI slop bordering on blasphemy, but my main question is why is he running like that?? Straight from prayer hands to a full sprint is an interesting choice

 

[Logiko]

Do you understand it's getting misused and overused?

I will answer you question if you answer mine first.

Do you understand why we label on the left ?

 

[Reborn]

I will answer you question if you answer mine first.

Do you understand why we label on the left ?

We are done then

 

[Logiko]

More AI slop bordering on blasphemy, but my main question is why he running like that?? Straight from prayer hands to a full sprint is an interesting choice

It's their only way to make their words look grounded in reality

We are done then

Lmao, you won't even answer a question ? What is this level of cowardise ?

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Damn...

Pretty damning stuff, right?? This is why I reject the deification shit, he was an absolute prick in life and that’s exactly how everyone but the MAGAts will remember him

It's their only way to make their words look grounded in reality

Reality is the farthest thing from my mind when I see shit like this

 

[Logiko]

Reality is the farthest thing from my mind when I see shit like this

I said they "look grounded in reality" not they "are".



It's a scam, like everything the right invents to justify their idealism.

 

[Reborn]

It's their only way to make their words look grounded in reality



Lmao, you won't even answer a question ? What is this level of cowardise ?

whatever makes you sleep better at night

 

[Logiko]

whatever makes you sleep better at night

Mate, I'm not the one unable to answer simple questions

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

It goes beyond this.


It became a tool to attack as an insult and silence debate.

And, it's leading to dilution of it's real meaning, that is It trivializes real fascism and its historical horrors. Furthermore, it's leading to polarization.


Read again what I said


Do you understand it's getting misused and overused?

It happens with any group whenever they get criticized
You criticize overly ghetto black people and get called racist even though you specifically only mentioned the extremely ghetto ones
You criticize women for anything and you're a misogynist
So on and so forth

 

[Reborn]

Mate, I'm not the one unable to answer simple questions

Sure! We are done here

 

[Mathias]

Read again what I said

I simply disagree on the fact that voting for a far-righty doesn't make you a far-righty. They are roped into it whether they disclaim it or not.

Hitler wasn't a nazi dictator rather his actions were I guess

Voting for Trump doesn't make you a MAGA supporter. Rather some of your actions or thoughts are in a way kinda kinda aligned with them.

Trump isn't a "nazi" btw. Just another far-righty. But I'm sure that you get the point.