Controversial General Political Discussion

[Zenos7]

Remember how Musk was gonna build a bullet train to facilitate long distance travel in America? Yeah, me fucking neither…

at least they are a building a moon space station

 

[Mathias]

Only report so-called alt accounts if you disagree with their views

 

[Jew D. Boy]

at least they are a building a moon space station

That should do the trick!! It’s like the whole “Colonize Mars” bullshit, billionaires would rather ruin the rest of the solar system instead of improving conditions for everyone on their home planet

 

[AL sama]

Alt alert?
@Uncle Van

Yup, alt confirmed.
@AL sama

nope we don't think so

 

[NikaInParis]

nope we don't think so

Welp, that's even sadder - make an account on WG just to discuss politics with weebs

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

nope we don't think so

Of course AL is saying his alt isn't an alt
Lol

 

[HerreraIsBack]

Welp, that's even sadder - make an account on WG just to discuss politics with weebs

What's worse? That or making alt to discuss about One Piece?

 

[AL sama]

Welp, that's even sadder - make an account on WG just to discuss politics with weebs

Of course AL is saying his alt isn't an alt
Lol

observe before saying stuff

you guys are barking without evidence

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

observe before saying stuff

you guys are barking without evidence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire

 

[AL sama]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire

nope you were barking

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

nope you were barking

ok

 

[Blax Blah]

@Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier @BurningFlesh

Sorry to hear about the argument, but Zoro did you fall asleep at 5am?

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

These freaky ass cultists always have the shit-eating grin bullies in school used to have, before they went back to their miserable home lives.

You know, a lot of this really just boils down to that:

These are miserable people that like bullying others to distract themselves from their own misery.

To them, the entire world is a barrel, and everyone else is crabs.

Can't find most US states on a map the way they can't find the clitoris.

 

[BurningFlesh]

@Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier @BurningFlesh

Sorry to hear about the argument, but Zoro did you fall asleep at 5am?

No don't be, it's okay you don't have to worry about it; it's just people being annoying.

Also, I wanted to talk to you about something directly about stuff I said on the other discussion.

Only if you want to though.

 

[Logiko]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1968673326831645095

I trust

Yeah, but BEFORE you trust a sources, how do you make sure you can trust them?

Let's say I gave you a scientific paper. What will make you trust it or not?

I don't care about his "jokes" but he shouldn't blatantly lie to his audience by portraying his murderer as a conservative maga.
It's good that the left is rediscovering the benefits of the first amendment, but to be credible, perhaps you should have denounced cancel culture much earlier.

Cancel culture was NEVER really a thing against the right wing. It's a moral panic because you guy can't stand taking responsibility for hurting people.

On the other hand, there is only state censorship here. Seems like you are okay with that.

Donnie’s administration is doing a fascism speed run, they have hit EVERY SINGLE ONE of these things and it hasn’t been nine full months since he took office…completely cooked country, I don’t know how we’ll ever recover from this xenophobic movement

instead of blaming one side, lets actually combat aganist the evil in the world?

both sides

"Both side has done evil" completely denies the material reality of the world. Reality is more complex.

Let me politically translate what you just said:

"Instead of blaming the side that is perpetuating the violence, let's fight against a simplistic concept made for kids to understand that we shouldn't perpetuate violence"

It's not a both side scenario. There is one NON ethical side that lie, harm, hurt, willingly and another that TRIES to be ethical that try to prevent the other side from doing harm, when though violence if needed.

While there are indeed problems in the mode of action of the left, the problem relies in the danger of authoritarism first. But on the right, it's a completely different matter, the problem relies in the DIRECT VALUE SYSTEM. A value system that directly hurts people. A value system that is not shared only by the extremist of the right, but by the entire rightist spectrum to different degrees of power.

he was largely dismissed

The literal opposite happened. He got a front page everywhere. His candidacy was accepted BECAUSE it was seen and portrayed as joke.

you're also forgetting that trump would always talk shit about Hillary too so neither side is better than the other.

Let's stop looking at democrats and republican as "the two side". They are both on the conservative side.

@Logiko if you really mean everything you say then I have a challenge for you.

Convert tesla into a Left like you within 10 days.

Are you up for the challenge?

It will never be possible. It took me multiple YEARS to go from his point to where I'm at politically. And it was while completely being aware that I needed to change.

At best I think it's something possible in a few month IF (and only IF) he is REALLY willing to listen to me, which he is not. The more that I can do in 10 day is try to make him doubtfull of his own biases and belief. But again, it would require him to be open minded and not completely reject what I have to say like before.

But you know.. he is not really far from being a leftist, just like Van (but for different reasons). I guess you could even say that the only thing missing for Monster is the self-questionning. The acceptance of the fact that he has biases created by his material condition of existence.

Things like denying the reality of racism while being racialized himself is kind of a big denial in my opinion.

>>>>

Logiko has a larger ego than me and loves to make things more complicated than they need to be

Here for exemple, he a case of denial of reality. A documented reality that is labelled as "more complicated than they need to be".
It would be like me having that kind of discussion:

Me : "Oh! I get it, so gravity is attracting the object together"
A scientist : "It's actually a bit more complex than that, gravity distords spacetime which make object "fall"
Me: "you are making thing more complicated than they need to be"

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Yeah, but BEFORE you trust a sources, how do you make sure you can trust them?

Let's say I gave you a scientific paper. What will make you trust it or not?



Cancel culture was NEVER really a thing against the right wing. It's a moral panic because you guy can't stand taking responsibility for hurting people.

On the other hand, there is only state censorship here. Seems like you are okay with that.

"Both side has done evil" completely denies the material reality of the world. Reality is more complex.

Let me politically translate what you just said:

"Instead of blaming the side that is perpetuating the violence, let's fight against a simplistic concept made for kids to understand that we shouldn't perpetuate violence"

It's not a both side scenario. There is one NON ethical side that lie, harm, hurt, willingly and another that TRIES to be ethical that try to prevent the other side from doing harm, when though violence if needed.

While there are indeed problems in the mode of action of the left, the problem relies in the danger of authoritarism first. But on the right, it's a completely different matter, the problem relies in the DIRECT VALUE SYSTEM. A value system that directly hurts people. A value system that is not shared only by the extremist of the right, but by the entire rightist spectrum to different degrees of power.

The literal opposite happened. He got a front page everywhere. His candidacy was accepted BECAUSE it was seen and portrayed as joke.



Let's stop looking at democrats and republican as "the two side". They are both on the conservative side.



It will never be possible. It took me multiple YEARS to go from his point to where I'm at politically. And it was while completely being aware that I needed to change.

At best I think it's something possible in a few month IF (and only IF) he is REALLY willing to listen to me, which he is not. The more that I can do in 10 day is try to make him doubtfull of his own biases and belief. But again, it would require him to be open minded and not completely reject what I have to say like before.

But you know.. he is not really far from being a leftist, just like Van (but for different reasons). I guess you could even say that the only thing missing for Monster is the self-questionning. The acceptance of the fact that he has biases created by his material condition of existence.

Things like denying the reality of racism while being racialized himself is kind of a big denial in my opinion.

>>>>

Here for exemple, he a case of denial of reality. A documented reality that is labelled as "more complicated than they need to be".
It would be like me having that kind of discussion:

Me : "Oh! I get it, so gravity is attracting the object together"
A scientist : "It's actually a bit more complex than that, gravity distords spacetime which make object "fall"
Me: "you are making thing more complicated than they need to be"

In this case I'm the scientist

 

[Logiko]

"A school recruited the organizer of a neo-nazi protest as a history teacher"

In this case I'm the scientist

Dear.. how can I say this to you kindly....

 

[Reborn]

Yeah, but BEFORE you trust a sources, how do you make sure you can trust them?

Let's say I gave you a scientific paper. What will make you trust it or not?



Cancel culture was NEVER really a thing against the right wing. It's a moral panic because you guy can't stand taking responsibility for hurting people.

On the other hand, there is only state censorship here. Seems like you are okay with that.

"Both side has done evil" completely denies the material reality of the world. Reality is more complex.

Let me politically translate what you just said:

"Instead of blaming the side that is perpetuating the violence, let's fight against a simplistic concept made for kids to understand that we shouldn't perpetuate violence"

It's not a both side scenario. There is one NON ethical side that lie, harm, hurt, willingly and another that TRIES to be ethical that try to prevent the other side from doing harm, when though violence if needed.

While there are indeed problems in the mode of action of the left, the problem relies in the danger of authoritarism first. But on the right, it's a completely different matter, the problem relies in the DIRECT VALUE SYSTEM. A value system that directly hurts people. A value system that is not shared only by the extremist of the right, but by the entire rightist spectrum to different degrees of power.

The literal opposite happened. He got a front page everywhere. His candidacy was accepted BECAUSE it was seen and portrayed as joke.



Let's stop looking at democrats and republican as "the two side". They are both on the conservative side.



It will never be possible. It took me multiple YEARS to go from his point to where I'm at politically. And it was while completely being aware that I needed to change.

At best I think it's something possible in a few month IF (and only IF) he is REALLY willing to listen to me, which he is not. The more that I can do in 10 day is try to make him doubtfull of his own biases and belief. But again, it would require him to be open minded and not completely reject what I have to say like before.

But you know.. he is not really far from being a leftist, just like Van (but for different reasons). I guess you could even say that the only thing missing for Monster is the self-questionning. The acceptance of the fact that he has biases created by his material condition of existence.

Things like denying the reality of racism while being racialized himself is kind of a big denial in my opinion.

>>>>

Here for exemple, he a case of denial of reality. A documented reality that is labelled as "more complicated than they need to be".
It would be like me having that kind of discussion:

Me : "Oh! I get it, so gravity is attracting the object together"
A scientist : "It's actually a bit more complex than that, gravity distords spacetime which make object "fall"
Me: "you are making thing more complicated than they need to be"

Well let me phrase it differently.

He's a bad, spoiled student. But a good teacher is one who can find ways to make even bad apples listen, learn and transform them.

And, don't you want another Leftist ally? He would come handy.

 

[Logiko]

"KANAKY (a french colony) - Policemen in a civilian car shot down a Kanak - 7 dead since the beginning of the revolt"

Well let me phrase it differently.

He's a bad, spoiled student. But a good teacher is one who can find ways to make even bad apples listen, learn and transform them.

And, don't you want another Leftist ally? He would come handy.

A teacher is someone that talks to a room that listens and is not closed minded. That is not who I am here lol.

I would love for him to start become more left, just like I would love for you to do it too, but sadly, if you don't want to change or listen, I don't know how to change that.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

It was 5 am for me

That's time to wake up! The early bird catches the worm. Time to hustle and make money, lazy bum!

Looks like those ancient coins with kings / emperors on them.
Trump is as great as them. Why not call him Donald the Great while we're at it?