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He is against DEI because it gives an unfair advantage to blacks which implies he doesn't feel they need it, AKA they are equally as capable as whites, something no Nazi would ever even consider.
I literally listenned to the video mate. He said a lot of biased and fallacious BS that have no basis in logic, rethoric or historical reality. This is a revionnist channel that focused on slop reactionnary videos. There is nothing worth keeping in his argumentary and you shouldn't take what he says as god's words.
My question is simple. Do not try to gaslight me you will just look ridiculous. ANswer it or ignore it but don't try to twirl your way out like that it's useless.
I gave you a clear answer and a clear question. If you are not ok with the content, do say so.
He was racist, that's a fact.
The fact of thinking that DEI gives an unfair advantage IS a racist stance as it denies systemic racism to begin with to attack black people in return. As for LGBTQI+ he was a bigot too explaining how the bible was sayin gay should be stoned to death.
DO not even start defending this fascist or we will have a problem. The guy was a white supremacist. Stop your propaganda right now.
Which is capitalist BS and a myth and in this case a tool for white supremacy.
THe guy literally explained that situation of black people was better under segregation than it is right now, STOP defending this fucking NAZI FFS
The clip is a bit surprising the first time but it's not really that bad compared to what we can see at the moment in the world..
"Bla bla bla I refuse his arguments because I can't argue with logic"
Dude I'm not gaslighting you and your question is not simple. You want my opinion if the article quoted right the theory or if the theory quoted is right?
You just have to say "Tell me if you believe the article quoted right the theory" or "Tell me if you believe the theory is right" is that simple. And yet I know you will not do that and will add a bunch of nothing just to sound intellectual and not be precipice about what you are asking
Obama had the legal pass to deport illegals. Trump doesn't. That's why Obama is not racist.
Dude I'm not gaslighting you and your question is not simple. You want my opinion if the article quoted right the theory or if the theory quoted is right?
You just have to say "Tell me if you believe the article quoted right the theory" or "Tell me if you believe the theory is right" is that simple. And yet I know you will not do that and will add a bunch of nothing just to sound intellectual and not be precipice about what you are asking
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Obama had the legal pass to deport illegals. Trump doesn't. That's why Obama is not racist.
There wouldn't need an advantage for black people if there wasn't already an unfair advantage for white people.
I literally listenned to the video mate. He said a lot of biased and fallacious BS that have no basis in logic, rethoric or historical reality. This is a revionnist channel that focused on slop reactionnary videos. There is nothing worth keeping in his argumentary and you shouldn't take what he says as god's words.
My question is simple. Do not try to gaslight me you will just look ridiculous. ANswer it or ignore it but don't try to twirl your way out like that it's useless.
I gave you a clear answer and a clear question. If you are not ok with the content, do say so.
I literally listenned to the video mate. He said a lot of biased and fallacious BS that have no basis in logic, rethoric or historical reality. This is a revionnist channel that focused on slop reactionnary videos. There is nothing worth keeping in his argumentary and you shouldn't take what he says as god's words.
My question is simple. Do not try to gaslight me you will just look ridiculous. ANswer it or ignore it but don't try to twirl your way out like that it's useless.
I gave you a clear answer and a clear question. If you are not ok with the content, do say so.
Well we can define these things.
Seeing as you probably do not have a coherent definition for "racist", I will just define racism = someone who hates other races
No, denying that blacks are entitled to special selection in university for example, =/= hating black people. Lol
He didn't say he thinks gays should be stoned to death. He welcomed gays, including gay black men, into TPUSA and publically allied with them.
Trump is Darth Vader, Vance is Hitler, Kirk is Goebbels, and the ANTIFA is The Avengers
Meritocracy is, by definition, race-blind
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mer·i·toc·ra·cy
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- government or the holding of power by people selected on the basis of their ability.
And now, you think being against DEI means being a racist and that Kirk (who holds average conservative beliefs) is racist
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I have no idea what is that but I hope you know minimal wage is a racist law.
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Workers are not giving away from what they produce. Owners of capital you mean what?
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Explain to me why people are working for someone who doesn't work instead of working for themselves and therefore becoming rich?
Do you guys even work? Dude I work in a small company and I guarantee you my boss is the hardest worker of it. He works every fucking day at least 12 hours a day on week days.
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By the way Trump, Elon and that murdered president son (forgot his name) were all Democrats not long ago. Specially the latter.
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30s is not old.
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Your argument has now morphed into Kirk being racist for what he DIDN'T do
He DIDN'T do research on how bad blacks have it then and today
Actual racist or even right-winger you can just pull a clip of them saying DEI or CRT is anti-white, or that this country must remain majority white. Not any of this weak arguments shit
Kirk was a moderate on race, his complaint against DEI amounted to wanting a colorblind meritocracy, it had nothing to do with him seeing race or ethnicity as a central factor in how society should be organized. He dismissed such ideas and considered DEI a form of racism but for blacks
He DIDN'T do research on how bad blacks have it then and today
Actual racist or even right-winger you can just pull a clip of them saying DEI or CRT is anti-white, or that this country must remain majority white. Not any of this weak arguments shit
Kirk was a moderate on race, his complaint against DEI amounted to wanting a colorblind meritocracy, it had nothing to do with him seeing race or ethnicity as a central factor in how society should be organized. He dismissed such ideas and considered DEI a form of racism but for blacks
this is a running theme with kirk
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So?
Charlie Kirk promoted legal migration into America from the third world in large numbers (as long as it's economic), and promoting that the Conservative Movement should embrace gays.
Charlie Kirk promoted third-world migration
He did not believe in limiting visas for the skilled/educated and that people from India, China, etc. should be eligible for green-cards in America if they acquire a 2-year degree
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Charlie Kirk was so homophobic, he promoted gays in Conservatism
Quite contrary to wanting them stoned, Charlie Kirk says some of his "closest friends" were gay and that the conservative movement should embrace "talented people that also happen to be gay"
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He lived and died towing the line, never going beyond culture war discussion, his organization was a dam preventing common-sense, conservative youth in America from becoming truly right-wing.
Charlie Kirk promoted third-world migration
He did not believe in limiting visas for the skilled/educated and that people from India, China, etc. should be eligible for green-cards in America if they acquire a 2-year degree
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Charlie Kirk was so homophobic, he promoted gays in Conservatism
Quite contrary to wanting them stoned, Charlie Kirk says some of his "closest friends" were gay and that the conservative movement should embrace "talented people that also happen to be gay"
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He lived and died towing the line, never going beyond culture war discussion, his organization was a dam preventing common-sense, conservative youth in America from becoming truly right-wing.
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How magnanimous of her to (kinda) support her own party, especially since she spent four months before the election courting the six disillusioned Republicans in the entire country
How magnanimous of her to (kinda) support her own party, especially since she spent four months before the election courting the six disillusioned Republicans in the entire country
No. I refuse his argument precisely because it's not based on logic, historical knowledge or factual evidence, but things and concept out of his ass and a complete invisibilization of the actual reason why the subject is important in the first place.
In other words, this holds no more value than people rewriting history trying to explain how alien helped the human specie develop in the first place. It's scientific nonsense.
And if you think this holds value, there is a problem.
Sigh.
Yes I want to know if you consider this theory correct. Yes or no. And in any case, why?
There is more to his rethoric to explain why the guy is a white supremacist. DEI is one of them.
Racism is a domination system. It's much more complex than just "someone who hates other races"
Kindly. Read a bit of social and human sciences about domination system (or go check some vulgarization videos about it idc) and come back to me when you understand the subject. This guy was racist, it's factual. Just as it is factual that denying systemic racism is a white supremacist behavior that many (even the most progressive) people on the right share.
Yes he did.
And being friend with marginalized doesn magically stop you being an oppressor toward them.
Actually Trump would be Hitler here, Vance is too dumb to be goabbels and the Antifa are not the avangers, they would rather be James Gunn's Superman.
The Avengers would be the governements that do not involve themselve in political struggle such as fighting oppression.
You have a lot to learn about sociology.
Treating everyone equally means that people are being leaving as equal in the first place. But since you do not know about social sciences, you do not know that people are actually not Leaving as equal in the first place
SO treating equally everyone in your world just ends up treating advantaged people with more advantages than others.
This is why rich people get richer and poor people get poorer. Learn and educate yourself Captain America
Not directly no.
But it becomes a racist belief system in a system where white supremacy and whiteness are the norm. And those things are the norm in western countries.
The reason is simple : when black people are already systematically oppressed, meritocracy becomes a tool to justify their place and status in society.
"My friend was gay therefore I can't be homophobic" BS rethoric
THere is a lot of work around that question in sociology, you should check it. But briefly, it's a self-justification behavior. "I'm friend with them therefore I can't be oppressing them' not realizing that the friend they have have been silented and completely whitewashed to the point of advocating against their own interest.
That's what I was talking about when I quoted Frantz Fanon to Monster the other day.
It's called whiteness. It's a system of domination that pushes racialized people to adopt white supremacy rethorics to be assimilated in the white supremacist society.
THe guy was a fascist white supremacist and a genocide apologist. Keep defending him and I will see you the same way my guy.
In other words, this holds no more value than people rewriting history trying to explain how alien helped the human specie develop in the first place. It's scientific nonsense.
And if you think this holds value, there is a problem.
Sigh.
Yes I want to know if you consider this theory correct. Yes or no. And in any case, why?
There is more to his rethoric to explain why the guy is a white supremacist. DEI is one of them.
Racism is a domination system. It's much more complex than just "someone who hates other races"
Kindly. Read a bit of social and human sciences about domination system (or go check some vulgarization videos about it idc) and come back to me when you understand the subject. This guy was racist, it's factual. Just as it is factual that denying systemic racism is a white supremacist behavior that many (even the most progressive) people on the right share.
Yes he did.
And being friend with marginalized doesn magically stop you being an oppressor toward them.
Trump is Darth Vader, Vance is Hitler, Kirk is Goebbels, and the ANTIFA is The Avengers
The Avengers would be the governements that do not involve themselve in political struggle such as fighting oppression.
You have a lot to learn about sociology.
Treating everyone equally means that people are being leaving as equal in the first place. But since you do not know about social sciences, you do not know that people are actually not Leaving as equal in the first place
SO treating equally everyone in your world just ends up treating advantaged people with more advantages than others.
This is why rich people get richer and poor people get poorer. Learn and educate yourself Captain America
Not directly no.
But it becomes a racist belief system in a system where white supremacy and whiteness are the norm. And those things are the norm in western countries.
The reason is simple : when black people are already systematically oppressed, meritocracy becomes a tool to justify their place and status in society.
"My friend was gay therefore I can't be homophobic" BS rethoric
It's funny Libshits use this argument but it is logically sound, why would you befriend black people if you hate them?
That's what I was talking about when I quoted Frantz Fanon to Monster the other day.
It's called whiteness. It's a system of domination that pushes racialized people to adopt white supremacy rethorics to be assimilated in the white supremacist society.
THe guy was a fascist white supremacist and a genocide apologist. Keep defending him and I will see you the same way my guy.
Define white supremacy and why being against DEI entails it.
I can see why you're interested in calling racism is a system, because this allows you to in a top-down fashion condemn millions of ordinary people inside this system (whether they have a choice or not)
Me defining racism is a specific way limits your ability to weaponized this term against those you disagree with
Prove it
Except he didn't merely say gays are his friends, he said Conservative should embrace gays into the movement
Pretty much yeah
Friendship requires good will and altruism, if you are trying to oppress someone are they actually your friend?
Kinda why this leftist canard when you show so called racists and homophobes engaging in contradictory behavior doesn't work.
He did run apologetics for genocide. He was not a fascist (you cannot be race blind meritocratic and fascist) or white supremecist (he promoted non whites moving to America)
Friendship is something in the will, if you outwardly are friends but deep down hate them then they aren't actually your friend
I love how your second point in this reply is also just "Or you could be lying" AKA "I'm not racist, I don't have any black friends". Lol
I can see why you're interested in calling racism is a system, because this allows you to in a top-down fashion condemn millions of ordinary people inside this system (whether they have a choice or not)
Me defining racism is a specific way limits your ability to weaponized this term against those you disagree with
Prove it
Except he didn't merely say gays are his friends, he said Conservative should embrace gays into the movement
Pretty much yeah
Friendship requires good will and altruism, if you are trying to oppress someone are they actually your friend?
Kinda why this leftist canard when you show so called racists and homophobes engaging in contradictory behavior doesn't work.
He did run apologetics for genocide. He was not a fascist (you cannot be race blind meritocratic and fascist) or white supremecist (he promoted non whites moving to America)
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Friendship is something in the will, if you outwardly are friends but deep down hate them then they aren't actually your friend
I love how your second point in this reply is also just "Or you could be lying" AKA "I'm not racist, I don't have any black friends". Lol