Controversial General Political Discussion

[Jew D. Boy]

I know nothing about Kirk outside of what I read here the last week, so I won't judge, but I watched some parts of his memorial, and that shit was creepy as fuck. People coming out to pyro like they're Batista from Smackdown in 2006?!!

Also, his wife gives me the creeps. The least genuine reaction of grief I ever saw from a public figure. If I was a conspiracy theorist, I'd follow that trail

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Like damn sis, your husband's corpse is still warm and you're out here sending marketing blast emails?! Sus af

Didn’t she also post some memorial video that ended with a link to send donations?? The grift is all-consuming, it’s the entire point of conservatism, and the first thing you learn about scamming simpletons is that you NEVER drop the fucking act even if someone dies

 

[BleakAsh]

Except it is all caused by Hamas

Last i saw Hamas came into being in 1980's as a reponse to the zionists' occupation
much later than 1948 when Israel declared itself a state and started the Nakba (ethnic cleansing and force dispossession of p)

I bothered explaining this knowing how stupid you sound saying its all hamas.. You don't even have a base level grasp on history on the matter.

Accusing hamas of genocide is.. Retarded enough.. I doubt you could even back half the bs you spout logically let alone academically historically

 

[NikaInParis]

Last i saw Hamas came into being in 1980's as a reponse to the zionists' occupation
much later than 1948 when Israel declared itself a state and started the Nakba (ethnic cleansing and force dispossession of p)

I bothered explaining this knowing how stupid you sound saying its all hamas.. You don't even have a base level grasp on history on the matter.

Accusing hamas of genocide is.. Retarded enough.. I doubt you could even back half the bs you spout logically let alone academically historically

The worst thing about our boy who cried Hamas here is that, and I would bet my left nut on this, he has zero clue about what Irgun was, how they operated, and how they got folded into the current IDF.
Or anything about Theodor Herzl, the founder of Zionism who said "our thibg is something colonial" and "we need human material" in regards to the need of more Jews in Israel so a majority can be reached.
Bonus points if he ever even conisdered how Zionism itself is the most antisemitic policy for the Jews themselves - it united religious Jews from Yemen, Ethiopia, Poland, Iraq, Morocco, UK, on the basis of shared "Jew blood" and character traits - same rhetoric used by those that genocided Jews for their "jew blood" as well.

 

[Uncle Van]

Interesting thing to note is that Christainity started in Palestine. Could explain why so many on the American right( ton of Christian nationalist), are so anti-Muslim and supports the Gaza genocide. Islam is the dominant religion in Palestine.

 

[NikaInParis]

I. People coming out to pyro like they're Batista from Smackdown in 2006?!!

Erika's entrance:
https://youtube.com/shorts/zk9HHlC5RuI?si=e7xHqG3022adXdOt

 

[BleakAsh]

Interesting thing to note is that Christainity started in Palestine. Could explain why so many on the American right( ton of Christian nationalist), are so anti-Muslim and supports the Gaza genocide. Islam is the dominant religion in Palestine.

Which seems like one of the factors. There is animosity against Islam in the Christian right certainly but tbe basis of it is anything but theological.

Its riddled with hypocrisy and stupidity. These twats would blame everything happening on Muslims and Hamas and call us terrorist but will turn a blind eye when Israel (extremist jews that spit on Christians) bombs one of the oldest churches in the region (protected for over a millenia under Islamic rule) and won't criticize zionists for it.

They care more about hating on Muslims.

They speak about seperation of church and state but their leaders pay the Jewish wall a visit whenever they are elected.

I haven't seen one Christian speak up against why they don't go to a famous church instead.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Interesting thing to note is that Christainity started in Palestine. Could explain why so many on the American right( ton of Christian nationalist), are so anti-Muslim and supports the Gaza genocide. Islam is the dominant religion in Palestine.

Honestly i never thought UK, Australia and other western power would breakout of Western hegemony and recognise Palestine .



Trump and Netanyahu out did their idiocy .

 

[Akai2]

Erika's entrance:
https://youtube.com/shorts/zk9HHlC5RuI?si=e7xHqG3022adXdOt

This is the first thing I thought of seeing all the crazy pyro lmao

Everyone at school stanned Batista back in the day, the machine gun pyro entrance is iconic.

 

[Logiko]

Honestly i never thought UK, Australia and other western power would breakout of Western hegemony and recognise Palestine .



Trump and Netanyahu out did their idiocy .

They did it for Israel, not for Palestine.

They recognized the leftovers of the colonizations and a massacre. This was the only way - under this genocide that Israel is commiting - to maintain the legitimacy of this state.

Nothing is done to stop the genocide, armements and material are still send to supply Israel, Netanyahou is still benefiting from western support. Nothing will change until they have the courage to speak up... But it would also mean recognizing their responsibility in their complicity with Israel.. which is a big no no..

 

[Reborn]

They did it for Israel, not for Palestine.

They recognized the leftovers of the colonizations and a massacre. This was the only way - under this genocide that Israel is commiting - to maintain the legitimacy of this state.

Nothing is done to stop the genocide, armements and material are still send to supply Israel, Netanyahou is still benefiting from western support. Nothing will change until they have the courage to speak up... But it would also mean recognizing their responsibility in their complicity with Israel.. which is a big no no..

They didn't do it for Israel nor for Palestine.

They did it for themselves.

These are populists democratic countries where majority decides who will form the government.

Public protests on key issues can escalate any moment and often shapes the fate of the government. So, they are doing it to please these protesters - a carrot to save their own power and legitimacy.

 

[Zenos7]

Lol yeah no. Charlie Kirk was definitely a racist, mostly towards Muslims. "24 years ago a group of Muslims killed 2,753 people on 9/11. Now a Muslim socialist is on pace to run New York City" was a tweet of his back in June, and perfectly showcases his racism. He had plenty of podcasts denouncing Islam and calling them dangerous, and generalizing brown people as muslim. He also supported the Gaza genocide because eliminating radical Muslims was the top priority.

Kirk was just your textbook Christian Nationalist, with all of his beliefs and politics stemming from his glorified/propagandized version of the Bible like the rest.

Muslims are not an ethnic group and charlie had no issue having the apostate prophet (ex-muslim turkish guy) at one of his TPUSA events

 

[Logiko]

They didn't do it for Israel nor for Palestine.

They did it for themselves.

These are populists democratic countries where majority decides who will form the government.

Public protests on key issues can escalate any moment and often shapes the fate of the government. So, they are doing it to please these protesters - a carrot to save their own power and legitimacy.

If they wanted to please protester, Gaza would be safe right now. They don't care about protesters, but you are right in the sense that they are interested in themselves or rather, the interests of the imperialist west. Without Israel, they lose a major point of operation in the region. They need this country under their "protection"

Muslims are not an ethnic group and charlie had no issue having the apostate prophet (ex-muslim turkish guy) at one of his TPUSA events

Muslim are sociologically a racialized group in the west. Just like Jews.

 

[Reborn]

If they wanted to please protester, Gaza would be safe right now. They don't care about protesters, but you are right in the sense that they are interested in themselves or rather, the interests of the imperialist west. Without Israel, they lose a major point of operation in the region. They need this country under their "protection"



Muslim are sociologically a racialized group in the west. Just like Jews.

Why they will go for Gaza to please protesters, protesting in their own country?


Politicians care about saving their own power and they are just giving a small carrot to Protesters - "Hey, we are with you. See, we are even acknowledging Palestine and publicly putting pressure on Israel.

But we can't stop the war as it's between Israel and Palestine".

This is surface level pleasing to calm down the local protests and to save their own government.

But at the back end, they will continue supplying support to Israel.


Triple win situation - Helping Israel + building credibility in Arab World + trying to save power and face of their own government in their own country..

 

[Logiko]

Why they will go for Gaza to please protesters, protesting in their own country?


Politicians care about saving their own power and they are just giving a small carrot to Protesters - "Hey, we are with you. See, we are even acknowledging Palestine and publicly putting pressure on Israel.

But we can't stop the war as it's between Israel and Palestine".

This is surface level pleasing to calm down the local protests and to save their own government.

But at the back end, they will continue supplying support to Israel.


Triple win situation - Helping Israel + building credibility in Arab World + trying to save power and face of their own government in their own country..

Very surface level then. Not even the first layer but the atmosphere over the first layer lol

 

[BleakAsh]

Muslims are not an ethnic group and charlie had no issue having the apostate prophet (ex-muslim turkish guy) at one of his TPUSA events

The point being?

 

[Reborn]

Very surface level then. Not even the first layer but the atmosphere over the first layer lol

Obviously! It's enough to calm down local protests for time being.

And, don't expect much anyway.

US is backing Israel completely. No European ally nation will upset USA just to please some protesters or Palestinians.

Arab World in itself is not putting up a United front against Israel so have no expectations from US or Europe because at the end of the day - each nation is simply going with their own national interests.

 

[Zenos7]

Muslim are sociologically a racialized group in the west. Just like Jews.

judaism is an ethno-religion, islam is not.

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The point being?

charlie wasnt against muslims for racial reasons.

 

[NikaInParis]

ex-muslim

Geez, I wonder why he had no issue having him on

 

[Zenos7]

Geez, I wonder why he had no issue having him on

charlie wasnt against muslims for racial reasons.

im not saying he wasnt against muslims, just not for racial reasons, imo.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

They did it for Israel, not for Palestine.

They recognized the leftovers of the colonizations and a massacre. This was the only way - under this genocide that Israel is commiting - to maintain the legitimacy of this state.

Nothing is done to stop the genocide, armements and material are still send to supply Israel, Netanyahou is still benefiting from western support. Nothing will change until they have the courage to speak up... But it would also mean recognizing their responsibility in their complicity with Israel.. which is a big no no..

They united all of the entire Arab world damn .

I feel whatever is happenibg right now in Gaza is more of political optics Israel indirectly threatened Qatar and Iran they can be attacked with Trump unconditional backing . We will likely whole of Arab countries uniting again .


We are in bad times like i say . Era of long peace is over.