Controversial General Political Discussion

[RyoQ]

yeah transgenderism isnt about changing genders @RyoQ . people just are a gender. and if you see people "changing between genders" by using a different word to describe it, that really just means that the understanding of said gender changed. What transgender people are changing (if anything) are physical attributes

this is something advocates of transgender say, but don't really mean. people say their gender isn't changing, but then they go and get hormonal treatment, change their name and how they dress

 

[Zenos7]

one is that one can change their gender/sex

there really is only a very small fraction in the pro-lgbtq community that thinks one can change their sex. so yeah no, thats not really a thought we need to consider.
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I will reiterate that I am on the far-right and oppose homosexuality/gay marriage being legal.

where are you from?

 

[RyoQ]

there really is only a very small fraction in the pro-lgbtq community that thinks one can change their sex. so yeah no, thats not really a thought we need to consider.

you think only a small percent of transgenders and transgender defenders support transitioning?

also, it's not only sex changes, transgenders change their physical outward appearance (such as their clothes, their names) which doesn't make sense if we are to believe nothing changes or that gender is not something bodily
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where are you from?

America. Also why did you post that image of Trump endorsing Gays for Trump? do you also agree he is rather liberal on gay marriage?

 

[Zenos7]

It's either you accept their existence and their right to exist, or you are on the side of their oppressor. There is no "I'm for gay but F Trans people" . If you against the second you are ALSO against the first, no matter what you say, systematically, you will harm them the same way.

this is fucking bullshit though because if we are real honest, the T doesnt belong with the LGB, because those represent sexual orientations and gender identity is a completely different concept. there are many people who support the LGB but not the T, even inside the community itself.

 

[HerreraIsBack]

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With all these shootings and the Jan 6 insurrection and such, the brownshirts are doing their job for real.

Trump hasn't even finished his 1st year of his 2nd term. I can't even imagine what America will be like the next year, never mind the following 2 and god knows what will happen after that. And the UK is trying to imitate the USA even harder and Americanise their politics and the rest of country too, when "British Nationalists" are ironically glazing America too.

Even my own clownfoolery and insanity doesn't even pale in comparison to this, it's way beyond that in difference. It's like comparing a single planet to the scale of the entire universe at least. As much as I hate myself, I know I will never be remotely as scummy as Trump and his narcissistic, inhumane cult of murderers and actual terrorrists.

He's exactly the kind of monster that creative media has been satirising as megalomaniacal villains for decades now and trying to warn us all about, but dictators have existed and still exist en masse in the world ofc, but now it's in the worst place possible in the world too.

Hell hath no wrath like a narcissisist scorned.

It's funny how you people are never bothered about criminals killing civilians.

 

[Zenos7]

natural law

couple of things wrong with this entire take of yours.

first, appealing to nature is fallacious. but even if that wasnt the case and we take your natural law bs at face value, i hate to break it to you, but homosexuality is not unnatural by any means. it occurs in many different groups of animals. Clearly it occurs in humans, and it occurs in the closest relatives of humans, chimps and bonobos.

and fun fact: there are species that can change their sex. not us though
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So gay marriage could be outlawed entirely distinct from Christian observance. Even if I was not Christian I would still oppose it like I oppose other natural evils such as murder, incest, theft, things like that

theft is very natural as well. sadly rape also is very natural, very present in a ridiculous amount of animal groups

 

[HerreraIsBack]

couple of things wrong with this entire take of yours.

first, appealing to nature is fallacious. but even if that wasnt the case and we take your natural law bs at face value, i hate to break it to you, but homosexuality is not unnatural by any means. it occurs in many different groups of animals. Clearly it occurs in humans, and it occurs in the closest relatives of humans, chimps and bonobos.

and fun fact: there are species that can change their sex. not us though
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theft is very natural as well. sadly rape also is very natural, very present in a ridiculous amount of animal groups

Like I replied to him, natural in this case means common.

 

[Zenos7]

or does your definition of natural only encompass aspects of nature that you like?

 

[RyoQ]

first, appealing to nature is fallacious. but even if that wasnt the case and we take your natural law bs at face value, i hate to break it to you, but homosexuality is not unnatural by any means. it occurs in many different groups of animals. Clearly it occurs in humans, and it occurs in the closest relatives of humans, chimps and bonobos

you use nature = in the wild, I use nature = essence of a thing

homosexuality occurs in the wild, but it is contrary to the essence of human nature because human sexuality is ordered towards heterosexual actions not homosexual ones

if you want to argue it's natural because chimps do it, that is YOU appealing to nature, and chimps do many fucked up things that we would not say is okay

 

[Blax Blah]

Personally I think it's wrong, in the same way that sleeping with a woman outside of marriage is wrong, or smoking cigarettes, but since it's not you imposing something wrong on someone else, like say you beating someone up randomly, it's a personal decision that you should get to make

 

[Zenos7]

Am I allowed to call him a Nazi again?? @AL sama @Zenos7

you were always allowed to call him a nazi (IMHO)

my issue was you lying about his self proclamation of being a nazi (because that didnt happen btw)

you are also allowed to stop being a bitch about it
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Well, before that I would ask you: is it possible to misuse to the sexual functions of the body, in your opinion? That is to say, is there even such a thing as sexual morals?

If the answer is yes, what are they? I believe I could define the boundaries much better than you can.

bro if we follow this line of reasoning then everytime people have sex without the female getting pregnant is evil.
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Well, before that I would ask you: is it possible to misuse to the sexual functions of the body, in your opinion? That is to say, is there even such a thing as sexual morals?

If the answer is yes, what are they? I believe I could define the boundaries much better than you can

gotta throw in our closest animal relatives again, the bonobos, who perform sexual activities of all sorts as social interaction and/or to ease tension.

 

[RyoQ]

bro if we follow this line of reasoning then everytime people have sex without the female getting pregnant is evil

what do you mean by that? like in cases of infertility?

 

[Reborn]

Woh don't provoke him


Actually delete your post before he wakes up

Akai bribed me to post that

 

[RyoQ]

Personally I think it's wrong, in the same way that sleeping with a woman outside of marriage is wrong, or smoking cigarettes, but since it's not you imposing something wrong on someone else, like say you beating someone up randomly, it's a personal decision that you should get to make

if you are having a gay marriage, you are imposing something on others because marriage is a public action that has a public effect on society

if the state is allowing this, the state is legally redefining marriage which perverts the public conscious

 

[Zenos7]

Incest is evil because it goes against the nature of human sexuality in some way, homosexuality also goes against this nature but in a different way.

attention everyone: being asexual is EVIL AS FUCK! ! ! !
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I'd pay a million dollars to have a woman ride me like they ride Kirk lmfao

just get a girlfriend

 

[RyoQ]

attention everyone: being asexual is EVIL AS FUCK! ! ! !

asexuality is definitely less immoral than homosexuality, lol. Bad comparison really

it's still not good and still a dysfunction, but the actions it would tend towards (celibacy) are 100% less perverted and less grievous than the actions a homosexual inclination would tend towards

 

[Jew D. Boy]

you were always allowed to call him a nazi (IMHO)

my issue was you lying about his self proclamation of being a nazi (because that didnt happen btw)

you are also allowed to stop being a bitch about it
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bro if we follow this line of reasoning then everytime people have sex without the female getting pregnant is evil.
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gotta throw in our closest animal relatives again, the bonobos, who perform sexual activities of all sorts as social interaction and/or to ease tension.

Can we at least agree that although it’s not exactly what he said, everything he’s posted since indicates he objectively IS a hateful bigot, racist, and homophobe?? I may not see his disgusting rhetoric, but everyone I see quoting him is responding clearly enough that I get the gist

 

[Zenos7]

"Murder became bad only when humans decided it's bad"

are you a YEC?

 

[Reborn]

are you a YEC?

What's YEC?

 

[RyoQ]

Can we at least agree that although it’s not exactly what he said, everything he’s posted since indicates he objectively IS a hateful bigot, racist, and homophobe?? I may not see his disgusting rhetoric, but everyone I see quoting him is responding clearly enough that I get the gist

you can have civil debate with me on things...or you can keep calling me slurs, to which the mods can and should ban you from here if all you can do is throw slur