So as usual, your own criteria that lacks any evidence.
I'm basing my point of view on scientific research but ok


I didn't even know that Bernie had recognized the genocide.
But then what ? He became left-wing after two years ?
I'd say more like a sos-dem centrist, a little bit on the right of Melenchonchon

I don't consider that guy a strong ally, but I'm ok with calling him a leftists. He actually tries to change this F-ing system.

This refusal to recognize the genocide is a massive red flag tho.

That's why you guys need me here. I am the anti Logiko. Lol
Pretty much yea, complete lack of out-group empathy, refusal to recognize your biases, refusal to even question yourself, dehumanizaing rethoric of marginalized, reactionnary rethoric etc.

I know all this but you don’t need to be ancap to be lefty.
A person that see the horrors of capitalism and the evidences that regulations do not negate said horrors... and says "nope, I still believe in regulation".. is not a direct ally to leftism. Class conscience and struggle is the basic necessity of leftism.

It's a question of who we choose to fight with and who we fight against.


No, leftism is scum. I may even oppose capitalism and I would still be right wing lmfao
That would be a good start to bridge the conversation.


What a fucking loser John is.
Listen more to John Oliver. That's a fair advice I can give you.
 
@Logiko NFP was left wing despite having the sore losers from the PCF and the PS. Green party is lefty as in socdem and LFI is like whatever new constitution written by the people for a more democratic republic. I don’t see much socialism in there tbh. What does ancap even stand for in the end ? Ancap isn’t an ideology in itself, you need precise words and structured theories like certain kinds of socialism or whatever
 
@Logiko NFP was left wing despite having the sore losers from the PCF and the PS. Green party is lefty as in socdem and LFI is like whatever new constitution written by the people for a more democratic republic. I don’t see much socialism in there tbh. What does ancap even stand for in the end ? Ancap isn’t an ideology in itself, you need precise words and structured theories like certain kinds of socialism or whatever

What does NFP, PCF, PS, and LFI mean?
 
"You have yet to meet everyone who will love you.


You have yet to meet everyone you will love. "





NFP Nouveau Front Populaire, alliance of the 4 left wing parties known as Parti Communiste Français, Parti Socialiste, Green Party and La France Insoumise.

communists and socialists only have the name

Awesome thank you, do you mean only in name?
 
Pretty much yea, complete lack of out-group empathy, refusal to recognize your biases, refusal to even question yourself, dehumanizaing rethoric of marginalized, reactionnary rethoric etc.
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You're such a good person. Lol
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That would be a good start to bridge the conversation
Idrc about economics, I am not a capitalist. I do see it as less harmful and more natural state than communism or socialism but see it in its current form as riddled with issues and unideal of course
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That'd be cool lol
I don't see why, as a Christian, you will call yourself as a part of the same political side which celebrates many deviations from Christian morals just because they may have a point about capitalism, for example
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Every police violence is unjustified.
:suresure::suresure::suresure::suresure::suresure::suresure:

But you'd call the cops on me
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@Logiko NFP was left wing despite having the sore losers from the PCF and the PS. Green party is lefty as in socdem and LFI is like whatever new constitution written by the people for a more democratic republic. I don’t see much socialism in there tbh. What does ancap even stand for in the end ? Ancap isn’t an ideology in itself, you need precise words and structured theories like certain kinds of socialism or whatever
Note: I missunderstood what you said and ancap (which is anarcho capitalism, a far right ideology) with anticap (anticapitalism).

Stayin on anticapitalism: It's is by defaut a vision of society that consider class struggles and the necessity of a complete restructuration. It's marxist-ish and thus socialist (which is why I can consider Sanders as a sos dem). Most LFI deputees are anticapitalist I believe.


communists and socialists only have the name
Indeed. The PCF (communists) are flirting with reactionnaries and neoliberals. The EELV (green party) is party that is highly idealistic and individualistic in it's vision of politics (and not really anticapitalist, which is a necessity to be an ecologist).

The PS (socialists) are traitors who want to keep the status co. LFI are real radical leftist (but with huge biases on marginalized struggles)


You're such a good person. Lol
No I'm not.

I'm only trying to be one.


But you'd call the cops on me
Unlikely.

But give me a scenario, I will tell you if I do it or not.
 
But give me a scenario, I will tell you if I do it or not.
I gave a scenario, it got deleted for some reason. The parameters for what goes here are not explained to me at all, even making a hypothetical of saying something apolitically correct and the mods are using ope ope on me
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Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
I don't know why people are indirectly targeting Al sama for things he didn't even say it

If you can't fuckn comprehend then it's on you.

If you got insecure because of it...then its on you.

And, you people don't even know Al personal life conditions. Yet, he doesnt go around making appeal to emotions for it.

Al sama resilience and positivity towards life are actually unmatched.

It's not that I am defending this clown.... I have my fair share of arguments with him .. but the fact is this guy has mental fortitude which many of you can only dream of....and, he does it without bringing "how much he struggles" or "what he faces" every single damn time.
 
I don't know why people are indirectly targeting Al sama for things he didn't even say it

If you can't fuckn comprehend then it's on you.

If you got insecure because of it...then its on you.

And, you people don't even know Al personal life conditions. Yet, he doesnt go around making appeal to emotions for it.

Al sama resilience and positivity towards life are actually unmatched.

It's not that I am defending this clown.... I have my fair share of arguments with him .. but the fact is this guy has mental fortitude which many of you can only dream of....and, he does it without bringing "how much he struggles" or "what he faces" every single damn time.
Why do you express the need to imply that I attack AL ? (because I know - from experience - you are targetting me in your last sentence)

I don't mind the guy. I don't see him as an ally and I think he should - like Van - take what I say a little bit more seriously to moderate better, but he is cool, he very respectable in his work and he - I think - still more progressive than a lot of people here. Relax mate.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Why do you express the need to imply that I attack AL ? (because I know - from experience - you are targetting me in your last sentence)

I don't mind the guy. I don't see him as an ally and I think he should - like Van - take what I say a little bit more seriously to moderate better, but he is cool, he very respectable in his work and he - I think - still more progressive than a lot of people here. Relax mate.
It was not specifically directed at you. It was more of a generalized statement in response to what I saw when Al sama posts on positivity and human were taken out of context.

Al sama could be wrong about many things...his opinions or his actions as mod can be questioned sometimes.

But I will tell you what he's not.

He's not a cry baby
Hes not empathy seeker

And, reborn doesn't defend or vouch for anyone on this forum..(unless you belong to informer familiy because then we will be at war)

But Al sama....this guy mental fortitude is on next level. Enough said
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
I'm basing my point of view on scientific research but ok
So you use your own subjective interpretation of science to incorrectly label someone that accurately matches with one label by definition, core values, and historical context? It would be more evidence for why you so often lose the plot with your own preferences to judge things.
 
He's not a cry baby
Hes not empathy seeker
It's ok to be both those things mate. No need to be insecure about it.


o you use your own subjective interpretation of science to incorrectly label someone that accurately matches with one label by definition, core values, and historical context? It would be more evidence for why you so often lose the plot with your own preferences to judge things.
Nop. I'm actually using a marxist materialistist and intersectionnal lens.

What you read here from me is only based on the knowledge distributed by people much more knowledgable than me and you.

You & me, are two class ennemies. In both real life and the virtual. What I'm trying to do, is open your eyes on this conflict.
 
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