To be honest all political parties in the UK support this "Big Brother" tier policies

Leftists liberals conservatives, all support stuff that would cause riots in America

Funny thing is that this is because of Blair, even Thatcher avoided it , Blair who is Clinton's friend destroyed the UK
I haven’t seen any riots in the US in decades of Patriot Act and even after the Snowden revelations but yeah okay it’s America Freedom Über Alles all day everyday for ever :suresure:
 
Leftist can't be fascist by definition.
Just saying, these pseudoscientific definitions were saying a lot of mad shit about black people in a not so distant past. You gotta take what academia says with a grain with salt.
1. My post does not say nor imply that the left cannot be authoritarian. You are strawmanning to make a point.

2. C4N's gimmick was not using terms correctly by defintion and changing them. Since when was his thing hiding behind factual defintions? Assuming more things to justify a strawman?

3. Leftists cannot be fascist by defintion. Fascism is factually, by definition, a far right ideology. Mentioning other people is irrelevant.

It's like claiming right wing captalists are communist. And it sounds like that you don't know that fascism is a type of authoritarianism, since apparently saying the left cant be fascist = can't be authoritarian somehow.
Fascism has more in common with left-wing ideologies than conservative ones. We already had this conversation. Sociology and political science aren't really scientific, btw. These definitions are broad and inaccurate. Fascism can mean multiple things. All fascist regimes had characteristics that were unique to them too. "Fascist" doesn't really mean shit.
 
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Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
Just saying, these pseudoscientific definitions were saying a lot of mad shit about black people in a not so distant past. You gotta take what academia says with a grain with salt.

Fascism has more in common with left-wing ideologies than conservative ones. We already had this conversation. Sociology and political science aren't really scientific, btw. These definitions are broad and inaccurate. Fascism can mean multiple things. All fascist regimes had characteristics that were unique to them too. "Fascist" doesn't really mean shit.
Fascism is a far right ideology. Nazism is a far right ideology. Saying "the textbook definition could be wrong" isn't an argument, especially since Fascism came to be defined by far right regimes, follows extreme right wing ideologies, and is accurately defined as one. It is nothing like the factually false rhetoric used by racists against black people. Ain't nothing psudeoscientific about a far right ideology being a far right ideology.
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
Careful, you said: "he knew", but in reality he thought* Non violence as its limits in term of activism and that's something MLK didn't understood. In fact, that's precisely why MLK is now quoted not only by simple liberals but also by the far right. MLK was what the system needed him to be: a symbol that could be recuperated.


Only to a certain point. In reality, change was possible because other people were pushing behind. (Black panthers, communist and black thinkers). Revolutionary change cannot happen by asking nicely. Power is not given, power is taken. Especially under capitalism where the material interest of the power do not align with marginalized.


And that's what you have been missing. You think that leftist don't take that into account. But I can assure you, that in reality we all do. In fact, France is a clear example where exemplarity doesn't align with success. And I think if you understood the importance of material interests, you would understand why I say all of that.



You are looking here at the leader of the main leftist movement in France, radical, but MUCH LESSER than I am. This guy is HATED by everyone else on its right (from communist to socialist to liberals to far rightist etc.) and yet he succeeds.. why? Because he scream? Nah.... Because he or his movement can be conflictual? Yeah... but naaaaaah. :



In reality, the guy & people inside the movement like Rima Hassan here are hated because they are the incarnation of a necessary rupture between liberalism and what should be socialism and overall different question like antiracism, anticolonialism etc. And here lies the truth: People vote for their material interest first in the hierarchy of gender, class and race



And under capitalism, today, the interests are clear: The model of society can't be questioned, white supremacy must be used a tool for the elite to keep the power, meritocracy must not be questionned, productivity must be pushed, Marginalization must be shut down, revolutionnary thinking must be suppressed.



THIS, is the result of non violence under neoliberalism and unchecked power. This is but a taste of what you are about to witness in the US in the next few years on non violent prostestor. There will be no such thing as a movement of change that take the power without anger or a form of violence, either vocal or physical.



Because it is not in the material interest of the power to allow what was allowed to MLK before. MLK wasn't a revolutionnary. He was the product of a system that pushed black people to conform. To assimilate. To be exemples and be later recuperated. MLK was convenient for the power... until he wasn't.




The reality is that MLK radicalized later in life and was probably heading toward something much more radical than me and you or many leftists. The reality is that "I have a dream" overshadowed everything, not by design, but by the power and targeted education. The reality is that MLK would have hated the imperialism of Obama.



The power needs "non violent" or "non radical" leftists to maintain itself.
How do you completely gloss over the point? You repeat things I've already said, which shows how much you missed the point.
 

Jew D. Boy

I Can Go Lower
https://www.newsweek.com/blue-collar-jobs-are-collapsing-under-trump-11127115
AI is stealing white collar jobs, intentionally suppressed wages are choking out blue collar workers, grocery and gas prices refuse to go down, and ICE crackdowns aren’t leading to an American productivity boom like the dumbest assholes thought they would…but at least your Starbucks cashier has to say “Merry Christmas” and kowtow to the six miserable MAGAt snowflakes who still get upset about that kind of thing!! @Ravagerblade Here’s hoping the brass at your insane asylum can afford to put a little cinnamon or nutmeg in your morning medications for that special holiday feeling :sweat:
 

Jew D. Boy

I Can Go Lower
It’s a reference to the whole “War on Christmas” shit that Fox News has been shoving down everyone’s throats for the better part of 30 years…since conservatives love hyperfixating on minuscule shit that doesn’t actually impact anything, they’re always up in arms about retail/customer service workers saying “Happy Holidays” instead of “Merry Christmas” because it makes them upset when other people’s feelings on any given thing are taken into account. Personally, I have never once been offended by someone wishing me a Merry Christmas - even if I don’t celebrate it myself, I recognize that the majority of folks in this country do and are (mostly) trying to be nice and kind by saying it. However, I also realize that those who don’t celebrate might not want to feel like their own holidays are being excluded, so unless you’re an overbearing douchebag like most righties, it’s not the worst thing to hedge your bets and use the all-inclusive term just to be safe. Still, Donnie and his goons wanna weaponize Christmas like they’ve done with so many otherwise benign “issues” to rile up the lowest common denominators, so every year we get to do this dumb fucking dance :few:
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Here, I’ll throw an anti-woke bread crumb to our resident dipshit bootlickers…I worked in retail as a teenager and once said “Merry Christmas” to a customer after ringing them up, and they frowned and said, “You know, you should really say ‘Happy Holidays’ because some people DON’T celebrate Christmas”; I responded, “Yeah, I’m one of them, but it doesn’t bother me” and they left in a huff :gokulaugh:
 
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It’s a reference to the whole “War on Christmas” shit that Fox News has been shoving down everyone’s throats for the better part of 30 years…since conservatives love hyperfixating on minuscule shit that doesn’t actually impact anything, they’re always up in arms about retail/customer service workers saying “Happy Holidays” instead of “Merry Christmas” because it makes them upset when other people’s feelings on any given thing are taken into account. Personally, I have never once been offended by someone wishing me a Merry Christmas - even if I don’t celebrate it myself, I recognize that the majority of folks in this country do and are (mostly) trying to be nice and kind by saying it. However, I also realize that those who don’t celebrate might not want to feel like their own holidays are being excluded, so unless you’re an overbearing douchebag like most righties, it’s not the worst thing to hedge your bets and use the all-inclusive term just to be safe. Still, Donnie and his goons wanna weaponize Christmas like they’ve done with so many otherwise benign “issues” to rile up the lowest common denominators, so every year we get to do this dumb fucking dance :few:
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Here, I’ll throw an anti-woke bread crumb to our resident dipshit bootlickers…I worked in retail as a teenager and once said “Merry Christmas” to a customer after ringing them up, and they frowned and said, “You know, you should really say ‘Happy Holidays’ because some people DON’T celebrate Christmas”; I responded, “Yeah, I’m one of them, but it doesn’t bother me” and they left in a huff :gokulaugh:
ok but i thought you were saying they are required to say it like that lol
 

Jew D. Boy

I Can Go Lower
ok but i thought you were saying they are required to say it like that lol
Only to the extent that corporations are “required” to bend to Donnie’s will; they don’t HAVE to follow his orders, but none of them have any integrity or desire to lose their generous tax breaks, so they fall right into the goose-stepping line every time :Sad_Cat:
 
https://www.newsweek.com/blue-collar-jobs-are-collapsing-under-trump-11127115
AI is stealing white collar jobs, intentionally suppressed wages are choking out blue collar workers, grocery and gas prices refuse to go down, and ICE crackdowns aren’t leading to an American productivity boom like the dumbest assholes thought they would…but at least your Starbucks cashier has to say “Merry Christmas” and kowtow to the six miserable MAGAt snowflakes who still get upset about that kind of thing!! @Ravagerblade Here’s hoping the brass at your insane asylum can afford to put a little cinnamon or nutmeg in your morning medications for that special holiday feeling :sweat:
Productivity thing is a myth

Most of the stuff that was offshored is unproductive work

Not to mention that Blue Collar Heavily depends on the prosperity of White Collar, Machinists are way less likely to call plumbers for the smallest issues
 
I expected better from you had no idea you simp for Isntreal
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Israels founders literally called it "a colonial adventure"

Expect they did in fact literally did steal the land ask yourself why there was no such thing as Israel before 1948
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For the record Zionists are worst than Nazis
Nazi/Russian propaganda. Couldn't expect less.

There was no land stole. It was all bought or given (public lands in control of British Empire).
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First: Both these things are an hoax that has been debunked a long time ago. This was pro-Israel propaganda to push anti-hamas agenda on people like you. But what you don't know is that it actually mirrors crimes committed by Israel prior and later. The IDF did horrible things to children, and Palestinian men and women are continuously raped in prison (but not only) by the IDF.
None of it was debunked. Netanyahu walked around UN corridors exposing those FACTS. Like you need an agenda to be against a terrorist group like Hamas.

I guess you are once again talking about IDF using literal LIVING bodies on their army truck to avoid getting shot at (confirmed). And I guess you do not understand that hiding in a city means among the population. (but I guess this is not something you thought about). BTW why don't you talk about Israel putting missile launcher in israeli towns? That's right, you have no backbone.
WTF are you talking dude.

Oh, this time you must be talking about the armed milicias FUNDED by Israel. These milicia who were monopolyzing the humanitary ressources to starve the population and create inner conflict and that Hamas had to hunt down.

Do you think that if you lie enough, people will stop fact checking? You are still underestimating me fascist.
If Hamas is the biggest, strongest group and in charge of control of Palestine how such militias could do such thing as claimed by you? You are very slow dude

Civilian colonist who mostly served in the IDF* (that's for the context). And yeah, the Hamas did what can be considered as A war crime. But I don't see you acknowledging the thousands of the IDF, I don't see you acknowledging the genocide or the appartheid or the colonization. Again, you have no backbone. You are a coward parading as an ignorant.
Because they did no war crime, that's why no international justice court ever said they did.

Yeah, that would be Palestinians. Israelian have no right on the land.

You are a liar and a genocide denier, mate. Deal with it.
There is no aggresion from Israel. It's always the arabs attacking them since day 1, and losing every single war by the way.

It's a physical impossibility, and yet you did it.

You reached the absolute 0 of knowledge and common awareness.
Talking about yourself as usual
 
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Developed countries will never go back to blue collar labor and I just wish politicians would stop selling this dream on people
the same is happening with IT jobs going to India

the right wants to protect these jobs, but they really can’t because it will never be more profitable to pay an American to do them.
 
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