Slavery was also "normal" for a good while. I don't have a good view of you in general, but I think it'd be low for even you to think slavery was fine just because the majority of people either supported it or turned a blind eye to it back then.
Most people didn't engage in slavery which is the difference

We are talking about how humanity is pretty "rough around the edges" when the ideal environment isn't provided, we have a biological aversion to killing people or raping kids, but humanity without the cultural guidance of Greek Gnostic Enlightenment and the ideal economic situation didn't have that same aversion to many things we consider bad biologically
 
I don't care for your dumb little hypotheticals about me having to save the world by killing a dude (which I would do, btw, one life gone for the lives of billions of others to stay is a small price to pay). They're not relevant to the topic at hand.
Thus proving that you would kill in another not necessarily ethical context.

People who beat their wife, or rape children, or mass murder people, or whatever else, they aren't humans. Maybe they are humans in a literal sense, but from a psychological/emotional standpoint, they aren't.
So you are still seeing yourself out of the scale then.

I'm very clearly talking from a moral standpoint anyway. I don't view them as "humans" from a morals standpoint.
And morality is not viable to understand the world.

Ethics are much better as they take contextual matter into account.


They don't have the same logical tendencies as normal human beings, their brains are warped beyond repair.
It's crazy the ignorance of liberals sometimes...

Listen, be dumb if you want, I do not consider it my place to make this place evolve anymore. It's gonna crumble anyway.


Also, you shouldn't say slurs against trans people like that. I'm not calling you transphobic or anything,
Yeah, I could say T-Word. But in a toxic place where trans people are already excluded and where the word is invibilized, the chances are, noone will understand what it means. So using it to denounce its usage is a necessity to make it visible then push people to prevent its usage. But this is mainly a different of culture.

The problem of words are the usage as dehumanization method. Not the denunciation of those dehumanizations. That would be the level 0 of activism.

But I agree that you should use the word that you want. I've never been against a black person using the n-word here.
 
I'm very clearly talking from a moral standpoint anyway. I don't view them as "humans" from a morals standpoint.
I said that in the same message you quoted, so I don't know why you ignore it.
I don’t know what that is supposed to mean

these people could have acted otherwise, they just chose not to. That’s why we view their actions as acts of evil and not a force of nature like a wild animal attack.
 
Because you're telling me that I HAVE to kill someone in order to save THE ENTIRE WORLD. Of course I would kill one person to save the entire world!
You never make any sense. You just want to seem like you're making sense.
Killing one person to save billion, is still killing one person, it's a morally ambiguous choice. It's the point of the trolley problem, there is no good or bad option. The point is to show you that people who kill, no matter the reason, are on the same violence scale as all of us.

Killing is the action, the context is everything else, from education, to situational datas. Thus, trying to exclude these people from the human scale has only one result: It will make you oblivious to the contextual reasons that push these people to act the way they do

would you still consider it "illegally occupied"?
Yes.


these people could have acted otherwise, they just chose not to. That’s why we view their actions as acts of evil and not a force of nature like a wild animal attack.
Ok so let me give you an analogy:

Can you magically speak Chinese if the only thing you learned or heard in your life is English?


I don't think war was ever portrayed as a good/neutral thing though
Anti-war movies are extremely rare.

 
Hm... yes it is..
Saying that you would bite the bullet and kill the person isn't saying you'd ENJOY it. It's just that you HAVE to do that in order to save the world.
Which mean dehumanizing the person enough so that we consider that their sacrifice is worth more than their life.

This is also a case where we see the lives of people as additive. Meaning that two people worth more than one. This can lead to some pretty fucked up shit.

Personnally, I would not be able to make that choice unless there is someone who count more than anything else in the other Billion. I absolutely refuse to put the live of a billion person against one on a balance. I consider - personnally - this act as non ethical.

Now.. if someone in the bunch are my loved one.. my choice would become irrational.
 
Hm... yes it is..

Which mean dehumanizing the person enough so that we consider that their sacrifice is worth more than their life.

This is also a case where we see the lives of people as additive. Meaning that two people worth more than one. This can lead to some pretty fucked up shit.

Personnally, I would not be able to make that choice unless there is someone who count more than anything else in the other Billion. I absolutely refuse to put the live of a billion person against one on a balance. I consider - personnally - this act as non ethical.
You realize one option leads to the extinction of an entire species, right?
 
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