Controversial General Political Discussion

[Jesse Pinkman]

@Reborn @Uncle Van do you fellas think there will be boots on ground in Kharg island .

 

[Reborn]

So then why did he do this right before the midterms?

you can't just use the "trump always wanted to do this" rhetoric then because trump clearly do not want to lose the midterms.


yeah they're all terrible people

but saying he used this to distract from the files is not making light of their actions at all. it's showing how fucked up they are

that they can threaten to start ww3 to distract from the disgusting and horrible stuff they have done

It's all about timings.

Trump started war with Iran in his 6th year of presidency.

If Trump always wanted this then why he waited for so many years?

If he always wanted this then why he didn't escalate last year?


Answer simply lies in the context - this year situation is totally different from 5 years of his presidency

 

[Reborn]

@Reborn @Uncle Van do you fellas think there will be boots on ground in Kharg island .

There's growing pressure (from corporates and from other countries) on US to ease energy supply via Hormuz.

If Iran continues to control Hormuz like this then there's a good possibility we might see a response force on islands through which Iran controls Hormuz.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

It's all about timings.

Trump started war with Iran in his 6th year of presidency.

If Trump always wanted this then why he waited for so many years?

If he always wanted this then why he didn't escalate last year?


Answer simply lies in the context - this year situation is totally different from 5 years of his presidency

The war was started because of this guy :

https://www.axios.com/2025/11/13/trump-epstein-files-fiasco

Netanyahu has domestic problem as well he has active corruption charges.

Both the old geezers thought heck lets wage war on Iran then world will forget it .

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

There's growing pressure (from corporates and from other countries) on US to ease energy supply via Hormuz.

If Iran continues to control Hormuz like this then there's a good possibility we might see a response force on islands through which Iran controls Hormuz.

It will be suicidal but Don thinks Military people who die are suckers and losers . I mean he even rejoyed af Bob Muellers death he was decorated Military guy .

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

if he had a beginning then something caused him, what caused him had a beginning?

if the answer is yes how do you gonna stop the infinite regression (something caused something, that was caused by something that was caused by something until infinite)? something needs to be first, and this first needs to be eternal

that's my point yeah

 

[Roo]

So then why did he do this right before the midterms?

you can't just use the "trump always wanted to do this" rhetoric then because trump clearly do not want to lose the midterms.

Coincidences can happen, not everything is some grand conspiracy lmao

The ICE stuff was already tanking their polling, I find it hard to believe "distractions" will take away from an already unpopular presidential term.

but saying he used this to distract from the files is not making light of their actions at all. it's showing how fucked up they are

that they can threaten to start ww3 to distract from the disgusting and horrible stuff they have done

It's just not reasonable because we know he's always wanted to do it, and he was already unpopular prior to the files. It doesn't track

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

what do you mean by this?

it's exactly what i said
there's no explanation for how all that energy can come from nothing

 

[Roo]

I mean whats stopping me from saying the epstein files are a distraction from the ICE militarization?

The ICE stuff is probably way more unpopular than the epstein stuff

 

[Roo]

it's exactly what i said
there's no explanation for how all that energy can come from nothing

It was just a random event that caused it

you don't need some thorough explanation. In fact even modern theist understand this which is why some tie the big bang with gods creation

 

[Reborn]

It will be suicidal but Don thinks Military people who die are suckers and losers . I mean he even rejoyed af Bob Muellers death he was decorated Military guy .

To me, the strategy US adopted in the first two weeks was suicidal.

Waging war against Iran and targeting their Supreme Leader without Gulf being on offense and no proper build up of forces from US to secure Hormuz or have proper response and defense of assets was suicidal.

US is now ramping up more forces which was needed to be done before the war lol

 

[Midnight Delight]

Netanyahu has domestic problem as well he has active corruption charges.

The thing is, He's going to jail even if He brings down the Entire Iranian Regime

 

[Midnight Delight]

To me, the strategy US adopted in the first two weeks was suicidal.

It's because they were copying an Israeli Strategy that was clearly defensive in nature

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

The thing is, He's going to jail even if He brings down the Entire Iranian Regime

Damn he does dude has blood in his hands . I hope there is special place in Hell for him .

 

[Roo]

@Midnight Delight did you see the Qatar helicopter that went down? The IRGC took credit for it but turns out there were Turkish military in it lmao.

 

[Reborn]

It's because they were copying an Israeli Strategy that was clearly defensive in nature

Perhaps you are right..

Or perhaps they simply didn't anticipate Iran to retaliate this strongly after Khamenei's death.

US movements of troops implies that US wasn't expecting this campaign to go more than few weeks or to suffer so much damage

 

[Reborn]

@Midnight Delight did you see the Qatar helicopter that went down? The IRGC took credit for it but turns out there were Turkish military in it lmao.

Wasn't that due to technical glitch?

 

[Zenos7]

it's exactly what i said
there's no explanation for how all that energy can come from nothing

Why does it need to come from nothing?

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

To me, the strategy US adopted in the first two weeks was suicidal.

Waging war against Iran and targeting their Supreme Leader without Gulf being on offense and no proper build up of forces from US to secure Hormuz or have proper response and defense of assets was suicidal.

US is now ramping up more forces which was needed to be done before the war lol

I agree not consulting NATO and EU allies was major blunder.
I simply think Don has gone senile worst part is his neco con cults like Mark levin , Graham and Murdoch advocating him he is doing great job.

 

[Roo]

Wasn't that due to technical glitch?

That's what Qatar is saying, but the Iranian forces were quick to take credit for it.