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what's wrong and right? sure Logiko knows and decides those things.
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- Gender role are by essence a form of oppression in a world where one gender dominates the other. So ethically, it can't be "right". At least if you consider your vision relative to ethics and the wellness and happyness of people. Without mentionning that it relies on a wrong or fallacious understanding of the world. If you consider that the wellness and happyness of people shouldn't be prioritized then yeah, I can see how you can see it as "wrong".
- Bulding a surveillance state is by essence, an oppressive politic. Especially since this politic ignore the root of the problem of insecurities and invisibilizes all the forms that are concerning non-marginalized people. So again, if you consider your vision relative to ethics and the wellness and happyness of people, ethically, it can't be "right". It's necessarily wrong.
- As for nuclear energy and the reduction of green energy it's the same. Ethically, we need to fight climate change and the reduction of green energy negates this. Furthermore, the unthoughfull development of nuclear energy in a capitalist and overproductive world is a push toward more an more exploitation of sensible ressources. ANd you know where we find these ressources or how we exploit them ? Exactly, most of them are found within the region of the south global and extracted by exploitated people, often children, most of the time oppressed and pretty much always racialized and under the impact of neocolonialism. In other word, the more we use nuclear energy in our capitalist world, the more we exploit the global south. This is contrary to ethics. Unless of course you consider that people of color in the south global should be exploited and their ressources stripped away.
As you can see, three Wrong things, but not only that. Within these three wrong things we can actually see three visions rooted in three very distinct systems of oppression, domination and exploitation.
- Patriarchy
- Racism
- Capitalism
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Factually mate
- Gender role are by essence a form of oppression in a world where one gender dominates the other. So ethically, it can't be "right". At least if you consider your vision relative to ethics and the wellness and happyness of people. Without mentionning that it relies on a wrong or fallacious understanding of the world. If you consider that the wellness and happyness of people shouldn't be prioritized then yeah, I can see how you can see it as "wrong".
- Bulding a surveillance state is by essence, an oppressive politic. Especially since this politic ignore the root of the problem of insecurities and invisibilizes all the forms that are concerning non-marginalized people. So again, if you consider your vision relative to ethics and the wellness and happyness of people, ethically, it can't be "right". It's necessarily wrong.
- As for nuclear energy and the reduction of green energy it's the same. Ethically, we need to fight climate change and the reduction of green energy negates this. Furthermore, the unthoughfull development of nuclear energy in a capitalist and overproductive world is a push toward more an more exploitation of sensible ressources. ANd you know where we find these ressources or how we exploit them ? Exactly, most of them are found within the region of the south global and extracted by exploitated people, often children, most of the time oppressed and pretty much always racialized and under the impact of neocolonialism. In other word, the more we use nuclear energy in our capitalist world, the more we exploit the global south. This is contrary to ethics. Unless of course you consider that people of color in the south global should be exploited and their ressources stripped away.
As you can see, three Wrong things, but not only that. Within these three wrong things we can actually see three visions rooted in three very distinct systems of oppression, domination and exploitation.
- Patriarchy
- Racism
- Capitalism
- Gender role are by essence a form of oppression in a world where one gender dominates the other. So ethically, it can't be "right". At least if you consider your vision relative to ethics and the wellness and happyness of people. Without mentionning that it relies on a wrong or fallacious understanding of the world. If you consider that the wellness and happyness of people shouldn't be prioritized then yeah, I can see how you can see it as "wrong".
- Bulding a surveillance state is by essence, an oppressive politic. Especially since this politic ignore the root of the problem of insecurities and invisibilizes all the forms that are concerning non-marginalized people. So again, if you consider your vision relative to ethics and the wellness and happyness of people, ethically, it can't be "right". It's necessarily wrong.
- As for nuclear energy and the reduction of green energy it's the same. Ethically, we need to fight climate change and the reduction of green energy negates this. Furthermore, the unthoughfull development of nuclear energy in a capitalist and overproductive world is a push toward more an more exploitation of sensible ressources. ANd you know where we find these ressources or how we exploit them ? Exactly, most of them are found within the region of the south global and extracted by exploitated people, often children, most of the time oppressed and pretty much always racialized and under the impact of neocolonialism. In other word, the more we use nuclear energy in our capitalist world, the more we exploit the global south. This is contrary to ethics. Unless of course you consider that people of color in the south global should be exploited and their ressources stripped away.
As you can see, three Wrong things, but not only that. Within these three wrong things we can actually see three visions rooted in three very distinct systems of oppression, domination and exploitation.
- Patriarchy
- Racism
- Capitalism
Why use children farmining radioactive material when we could develop mining robots for that? I wish we could do that, but noone is thinking about it?
Why do we need extreme feministic approaches when it is common sense that we should respect and worship women, aslong they should support men and households with everything they have to offer?
Also surveillance states have been built millenia ago and it always reduced crime. Take a look at china, at the cost of a little bit discipline common people are able to live a wealthier life. It is a working system, it's just the ignorance that doesn't let you see it.
Crime will be growing with growing populations and growing tension. Especially in modern and transistionary eras we need surveillance. We need either a patriarchy or a matriarchy that leads us, and sometimes overseeing us helps. I don't want them to pull out their whips and enslave us, but I want them to utilize their wisdoms and the things we don't know about to lead us into a peaceful and happy state.
I know we most likely won't have it, that's why we need to pave the way for future generations. Thinking we all can achieve this in our generation is selfish politics.
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I think you have the right intention but you are letting your biases lead you toward your answer. this is why I'm saying that you are on the fence, neither really leftist or rightist, but on the verge of falling in one of them for good.
For ex:
Here you do not take into account the fact that the problem would not be resolved with robots since what I talked about is neo-colonial exploitation and child labor. Child labor also include the fact of working with machinary. The steal of ressources would be the same, the extraction also, only the tools would be different.
Did you know that people in the global south are exploited for our usage of generative AI? For ex, what we write often end-up moderated by these population. They see atrocious things. Often ending up with mental issues. Most of the time exploited for a penny.
Here, you do not take into account the systemic oppression that is patriarchy. The impacts on wages, on capitals, on culture, on science, on institution. You do not take into account the current statistics regarding their oppressions, their abuses and murder. You do not take into account the fact that if they do not act fiercely, the system will counter them at every turn.
tension doesn't rise out of nothingness.
Surveillance state do not reduce crime, it reduces its noise. China is able to create a safer society not because of the surveillance but because of the social policies put into motions.
The surveillance and policizing of a problem invisibilizes the reasons behind the problem usually to the benefit of the ruling class. The police therefore exist not to maintain order but to maintain private property, the one of the bourgeoisie over the working class. Surveillance invizibilizes the reason why people have to steal, why people end up in the streets, why people can't be healed, why people commit crimes or do drugs etc. Surveillance is the tool of the oppressor to silence the result of their oppression.
We don't need capitalism, we don't need patriarchy, we don't need racism. Careful, these is the thought of a radicalizing person to the far right. We need inclusion, we need social services, we need collectivization.
In other words, we need to create society together, not appart.
Not a compliment.
For ex:
Here you do not take into account the fact that the problem would not be resolved with robots since what I talked about is neo-colonial exploitation and child labor. Child labor also include the fact of working with machinary. The steal of ressources would be the same, the extraction also, only the tools would be different.
Did you know that people in the global south are exploited for our usage of generative AI? For ex, what we write often end-up moderated by these population. They see atrocious things. Often ending up with mental issues. Most of the time exploited for a penny.
Here, you do not take into account the systemic oppression that is patriarchy. The impacts on wages, on capitals, on culture, on science, on institution. You do not take into account the current statistics regarding their oppressions, their abuses and murder. You do not take into account the fact that if they do not act fiercely, the system will counter them at every turn.
tension doesn't rise out of nothingness.
Surveillance state do not reduce crime, it reduces its noise. China is able to create a safer society not because of the surveillance but because of the social policies put into motions.
The surveillance and policizing of a problem invisibilizes the reasons behind the problem usually to the benefit of the ruling class. The police therefore exist not to maintain order but to maintain private property, the one of the bourgeoisie over the working class. Surveillance invizibilizes the reason why people have to steal, why people end up in the streets, why people can't be healed, why people commit crimes or do drugs etc. Surveillance is the tool of the oppressor to silence the result of their oppression.
We don't need capitalism, we don't need patriarchy, we don't need racism. Careful, these is the thought of a radicalizing person to the far right. We need inclusion, we need social services, we need collectivization.
In other words, we need to create society together, not appart.
Thank you for the compliment. 
You are a monkey fr.
You realize that giving nuclear energy to the middle east, means we can also give nuclear energy to africa in the long run. You realize we hypothetically could use the "money" of the billionaires to achieve this and solve several starvation and clean drinking water issues that this climatic region has, right?
Why do you even think I support capitalism lol. I think wisdom and consciousness is a better currency than "money" generated by labor power and materialism.
Don't treat me lightly Logiko. You still have to wake up from being a leftist agenda puppet. You have way too much to learn, it's not worth my time to argue with you here.
You realize that giving nuclear energy to the middle east, means we can also give nuclear energy to africa in the long run. You realize we hypothetically could use the "money" of the billionaires to achieve this and solve several starvation and clean drinking water issues that this climatic region has, right?
Why do you even think I support capitalism lol. I think wisdom and consciousness is a better currency than "money" generated by labor power and materialism.
Don't treat me lightly Logiko. You still have to wake up from being a leftist agenda puppet. You have way too much to learn, it's not worth my time to argue with you here.
Ponder upon what I said. It will hit one day. The day you'd be politicized enough to see the true reality 
Ask billionnaires and our states to stop pillaging their ressources first before trying to save them from a fate that our white nations created and are sitll perpetuating today.
Maybe this will be a start.
Materialism is in opposition to capitalism.
Because it's in your interest, for a reason I still doesn't know yet.
Lmao I was like you once. I'm telling you all of this precisely because I respect you and because I think that there is someone to save.
I'm still not sure if you are trolling or not. But if you aren't. Then you still have some stuff to unpack