Controversial General Political Discussion

[Midnight Delight]

That precisely because I'm anti-sanist that I'm saying this mate. The need to be social with others is directly incrypted within us. We can't live without others. It destroys us.

Dishonest

 

[Logiko]

Dishonest

Well it's just biology... it's not me saying this, it's scientists.

 

[Okamakama]

Dishonest

I've heard studies that most people cannot live without others - at least not prolonged true isolation (I mean a life completely devoid of human contact). Drives a human insane, they say.

 

[Okamakama]

I disagree but that's another subject.

Are you... doubting somebody's actual lived experience here? I've legitimately helped people with this matter. One told me I saved their life. Irrational statement from you here, mate.

 

[Roo]

what is anti-sanist

 

[Logiko]

Are you... doubting somebody's actual lived experience here? I've legitimately helped people with this matter. One told me I saved their life. Irrational statement from you here, mate.

No don't worry. I'll discuss this with you later :)

what is anti-sanist

The political struggle that is against the diverse forms of oppression create by the system of domination that is Sanism

 

[Okamakama]

what is anti-sanist

A sanist is apparently somebody who is discriminatory towards those with mental problems/disorders.

So someone who is anti-sanist would be anti people who are sanist, I think? I don't know.

 

[Okamakama]

No don't worry. I'll discuss this with you later :)

Nah man, the fact that you doubt what has been objective reality for me, which I have proven evidence for... is just hilarious. I am not willing to listen to you twist everything to make me out to be evil when I've received a lot of gratitude for the sacrifices I've made regarding it for others.

 

[Logiko]

So someone who is anti-sanist would be anti people who are sanist, I think? I don't know.

That's exactly that yes. With an asterix : I'm not against the people who are sanist, I'm mainly against their behavior. We can all be sanist (like we can all be racist) as long as we know what not to do, we can be better people.

Nah man, the fact that you doubt what has been objective reality for me, which I have proven evidence for... is just hilarious. I am not willing to listen to you twist everything to make me out to be evil when I've received a lot of gratitude for the sacrifices I've made regarding it for others.

Yes... I want to discuss it, but ... not here :)

 

[AL sama]

You don't know me, fragile white boy

@Logiko people can't be racist against white people right??

 

[Logiko]

@Logiko people can't be racist against white people right??

Indeed. Racism is a domination system created by white supremacy. What I can experience is at best a form of discrimination, but never racism.

 

[Okamakama]

@Logiko people can't be racist against white people right??

Tbh, if I went around calling a non-white a "fragile (enter skin colour here) boy" I'd probably be lynched. This is a pretty distasteful message, imo.

 

[AL sama]

what is anti-sanist

Anti-sanism refers to the strategies, theories, and practices aimed at dismantling discrimination against people based on their mental health history or neuro-cognitive differences. It opposes "sanism" (or mentalism), which is a pervasive form of oppression and stereotyping that marginalizes individuals experiencing mental distress or neurodivergence. [1, 2, 3]

 

[Okamakama]

Indeed. Racism is a domination system created by white supremacy. What I can experience is at best a form of discrimination, but never racism.

...You really need to learn the meaning of terminology mate. It feels like you warp things to the point that they can no longer be recognised anymore. I've noticed this in the past, for example, when you described communism for the first time years back. Same for historical fascism...

Racism is discrimination based on race. This includes negative distinction based on racial characteristics. If the worst you can receive is discrimination, then it's basically racial discrimination in such an instance.

Which means the person partaking in it is committing racism.

 

[Logiko]

Racism is discrimination based on race.

Yes and no. That is the vulgarized definition that we were given as kids to understand the concept easily. But the reality and sociology of racism is far more complexe.

That is what I'm talking about when I say that materialism is a framework to understand reality through a scientific process of sociality and material condition of existeence (social, institutionnal, historic etc.)

I'm here to share this complexity with you.

 

[NAMELESS]

fragile white boy

A bit racist, I would say.

 

[Logiko]

A bit racist, I would say.

No and i'm being very serious

 

[AL sama]

...You really need to learn the meaning of terminology mate. It feels like you warp things to the point that they can no longer be recognised anymore. I've noticed this in the past, for example, when you described communism for the first time years back. Same for historical fascism...

Racism is discrimination based on race. This includes negative distinction based on racial characteristics. If the worst you can receive is discrimination, then it's basically racial discrimination in such an instance.

Which means the person partaking in it is committing racism.

you know your words won't get through right??

 

[Logiko]

you know your words won't get through right??

They have. (I had the same thinking process 5 years ago). So I completely understand what he is trying to say. I'm simply telling him that things are a bit more complex that what appears.

Social sciences, activists and thinkers now clearly understand that racism is more complex than a simple question of discrimination regarding the race.

Again, I'm here to share this complexity with you.

 

[NAMELESS]

Yea peoples kids and family is a sensitive spot/subject

BUT, when you remove your kids from “liberal” schools etc kause you’re worried for ya kids and shit. And then turn around and vote and support a man whose had MULTIPLE sexual assault klaims against em going back decades, whose also had multiple……incidents regarding PDF activities. Is best friends with tha most prolific/notorious/far reaching human trafficker and PDF in modern human history that we know of

Also with tha point of using what they are teaching bout black people as a point to do it, is hilariously wild kause tha man she voted for has legitimately 4-5+ decades of publicly known racial discrimination

Yea you Kant really klaim that you’re tryna protect ya kids. Those actions are tha diametric opposite of protecting your child

Thing is, this is a matter of perspective and opinion. I don't see Trump as a racist or pedophile. I think Zemmi thinks so too. Until he gets a sentence for any of those, I won't accuse him of shit. By the way, I wouldn't tolerate professors talking about politics or religion with my kids. Only I get to do that.