Fanclub General Religion Thread
- Thread starter Luffy bin Dragon
- Start date
- Tags no hate speech no insults
Fine....you said some people. That doesnt answer the question tho. You said Morality is Subjective....then you said some people need a God to be Moral. But according to you morality differs for each person.
Morality of an Individual and the Morality of the Country itself are not tied. And as you said morality is subjective. Whilst Law is absolute.
Even if I dont agree with a Law....I would have to do. Like paying taxes.
No it isnt. However I see Alcohol as highly immoral. Yet the Law doesnt agree with me. Thus I dont share the same morals as where I live.
Morality of an Individual and the Morality of the Country itself are not tied. And as you said morality is subjective. Whilst Law is absolute.
Even if I dont agree with a Law....I would have to do. Like paying taxes.
No it isnt. However I see Alcohol as highly immoral. Yet the Law doesnt agree with me. Thus I dont share the same morals as where I live.
?????
Enma says its subjective then says people need a god to be moral ? But if its subjective then there is no true way to be moral. What even is being moral if its subjective. Theres no right way. Im just point out the contradiction if what he said.
- Note: The way the argument dissolved into Laws and Morality of countries may not be what I had intended.
Enma says its subjective then says people need a god to be moral ? But if its subjective then there is no true way to be moral. What even is being moral if its subjective. Theres no right way. Im just point out the contradiction if what he said.
- Note: The way the argument dissolved into Laws and Morality of countries may not be what I had intended.
Enma's point probably was this - do you really need a story about god to tell you that murder is not ok...
If the only reason some people in modern times think murder is not ok is because an old story says so, oh boy...
People knew murder is not ok long before any religion existed because I seriously doubt anyone ever liked the thought of his close ones being murdered. It is not about it being ok or not, it is simply because we didnt like it and what we dont like we decide that it is not ok.
It all comes down to human psychology. You are very young and you think you have all the answers because you believe into a story...
If the only reason some people in modern times think murder is not ok is because an old story says so, oh boy...
People knew murder is not ok long before any religion existed because I seriously doubt anyone ever liked the thought of his close ones being murdered. It is not about it being ok or not, it is simply because we didnt like it and what we dont like we decide that it is not ok.
It all comes down to human psychology. You are very young and you think you have all the answers because you believe into a story...
If you have to be afraid of the sky papa to be good to other people you are not good, you are just afraid of being punished.
Morality is a socio-cultural idea, there's no such thing as natural morality, we consider things right and wrong based on interactions of the culture we are in with some psycological drives common to primates like empaty and group well being.
This idea that moral is some kind of religious thing is just another way of ultra-religous people trying to force their religious rules in another people life because they fell bad that another people can enjoy pleasures of life that by some religious "rules" they can't, and still have a happy life.
Even the Pope had already said that is better to be an atheist who respect and do good for other people than a religious who do bad and try to force his way on people.
Morality is a socio-cultural idea, there's no such thing as natural morality, we consider things right and wrong based on interactions of the culture we are in with some psycological drives common to primates like empaty and group well being.
This idea that moral is some kind of religious thing is just another way of ultra-religous people trying to force their religious rules in another people life because they fell bad that another people can enjoy pleasures of life that by some religious "rules" they can't, and still have a happy life.
Even the Pope had already said that is better to be an atheist who respect and do good for other people than a religious who do bad and try to force his way on people.
