Fanclub General Religion Thread
- Thread starter Luffy bin Dragon
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What Enma said and what you are saying is different. Enma ended his comment with being "Moral" yet he also stated that morals are subjective.
Anyways Im not here to debate killing lol.
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Comparing God to a human. I can tell something isnt right.
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But it doesnt say that does it ? It doesnt ask for anything other than to spread peace to people and to ourselves.
We could clearly see that if the Religion had a harmful affect we would leave it. But Islam isnt bad....only certain Muslims who practice it.
Anyways Im not here to debate killing lol.
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Comparing God to a human. I can tell something isnt right.
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But it doesnt say that does it ? It doesnt ask for anything other than to spread peace to people and to ourselves.
We could clearly see that if the Religion had a harmful affect we would leave it. But Islam isnt bad....only certain Muslims who practice it.
This argument of yours falls flat...because this isnt true. Islam only ever spread peace and connects with the heart. If the Prophet wanted to spread Murder....then he would be denied and no one would follow him.
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Impossible
Reason 1: He himself was unlettered and illiterate. He could not sign his name either; how could he make it up?
Reason 2: Quran mentions some of his slight mistakes and encourages him to ask forgiveness from Allah. Would an egoistic, proud man make it up?
Reason 3: His companions witnessed unusual changes in his body (he used to become indescribably heavy , he would sweat in cold, shiver in hot weathers) which do not occur normally in a human being when the revelation took place.
Reason 4: He didn't ask for money for these revelations.
Reason 5: He asked people to worship Allah and not himself. Had he been the writer, he would have created words that are pro worshiping him.
Reason 6: He was renowned as the Trustworthy and Truthful, that everyone believed that he would which he said. Infidels entrusted him their properties even though they abhorred and disbelieved in him, just due to his matchless honesty.
Reason 7: Starting from Adam AS, all Prophets and Messengers have been preaching that there will be a such Prophet, who will close the door of prophethood till The Day of Resurrection. Like Jesus AS predicted:6. And (remember) when 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), said: "O Children of Israel! I am the Messenger of Allah unto you confirming the Taurat [(Torah) which came] before me, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed . But when he (Ahmed i.e. Muhammad) but when he came to them with clear proofs, they said: “This is plain magic". (Al-Saff)
Reason 8: The Quran has divine, poetic beauty that no human can ever achieve.If you ponder over the realities, you will understand the authenticity of Quran. My biggest advice: Read Quran yourself
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Impossible
Reason 1: He himself was unlettered and illiterate. He could not sign his name either; how could he make it up?
Reason 2: Quran mentions some of his slight mistakes and encourages him to ask forgiveness from Allah. Would an egoistic, proud man make it up?
Reason 3: His companions witnessed unusual changes in his body (he used to become indescribably heavy , he would sweat in cold, shiver in hot weathers) which do not occur normally in a human being when the revelation took place.
Reason 4: He didn't ask for money for these revelations.
Reason 5: He asked people to worship Allah and not himself. Had he been the writer, he would have created words that are pro worshiping him.
Reason 6: He was renowned as the Trustworthy and Truthful, that everyone believed that he would which he said. Infidels entrusted him their properties even though they abhorred and disbelieved in him, just due to his matchless honesty.
Reason 7: Starting from Adam AS, all Prophets and Messengers have been preaching that there will be a such Prophet, who will close the door of prophethood till The Day of Resurrection. Like Jesus AS predicted:6. And (remember) when 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), said: "O Children of Israel! I am the Messenger of Allah unto you confirming the Taurat [(Torah) which came] before me, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmed . But when he (Ahmed i.e. Muhammad) but when he came to them with clear proofs, they said: “This is plain magic". (Al-Saff)
Reason 8: The Quran has divine, poetic beauty that no human can ever achieve.If you ponder over the realities, you will understand the authenticity of Quran. My biggest advice: Read Quran yourself
Bravo, you hit the nail on the head. BTW it was an what if scenario, if he found out that religion is a scam...
The main reason the current religions remained is because whoever made them up, was careful not to set limitations or to go against human psychology fitting for a society.
If god demanded murder, you would be a sinner if you denied him, regardless if you follow him or not.
Your denial/approval most likely doesnt matter to a hypothetical divine being.
Why is there war between people raised in Islam? The religion can spread whatever it wants, people will still do their own thing...
Which part is the insult? It certainly wasnt god who wrote those things down, it was humans. You get that morality from humans.
The "prophet" was a human. The source of religions are humans who made it up.
The main reason the current religions remained is because whoever made them up, was careful not to set limitations or to go against human psychology fitting for a society.
If god demanded murder, you would be a sinner if you denied him, regardless if you follow him or not.
Your denial/approval most likely doesnt matter to a hypothetical divine being.
Why is there war between people raised in Islam? The religion can spread whatever it wants, people will still do their own thing...
Which part is the insult? It certainly wasnt god who wrote those things down, it was humans. You get that morality from humans.
The "prophet" was a human. The source of religions are humans who made it up.