Character Discussion Gold Roger: Fraud or bad writing?

#21
One of the things that strikes me the most about Roger is that we don't know that he has legitimately beaten a top tier.

Xebec was defeated in a 2vs1
Shiki had to withdraw due to a storm
We don't know if he defeated Garp
He didn't defeat Big Mom
He did not defeat Whitebeard

It is curious that Oda did not show Roger defeating the strongest pirates of his time, at least he should have done it with Shiki, Big Mom, Garp and Xebec

In this way it seems that Roger became king of the pirates just because he found an island
no one other than Akainu defeated another top tier in a 100% fair fight so far
 
#24
Pretty much no Top Tier gets anything like that.

Roger didn't beat anyone to become the Pirate King. :gonope:
Whitebeard didn't beat any Top Tier to be called the WSM. :gonope:
Kaidou didn't beat any Top Tier to be called the WSC. :gonope:
Big Mom didn't beat anybody to become a Yonko, neither did Shanks. :gonope:


Mihawk is the only one who did not beat any top tier
:goyea:
There fixed your reply to suit the agenda :goyea:
 
#25
One of the things that strikes me the most about Roger is that we don't know that he has legitimately beaten a top tier.

Xebec was defeated in a 2vs1
Shiki had to withdraw due to a storm
We don't know if he defeated Garp
He didn't defeat Big Mom
He did not defeat Whitebeard

It is curious that Oda did not show Roger defeating the strongest pirates of his time, at least he should have done it with Shiki, Big Mom, Garp and Xebec

In this way it seems that Roger became king of the pirates just because he found an island
Fraud. There is a reason if he's the predecessor of Monkey D. Plot Armor.
 
#26
He's not a fraud it's just that the one piece fandom being what they are, decided to make him a god level fighter when he is in fact, just Yonko level. He is on the same tier as Whitebeard/Big Mom/Kaido and possibly Shanks.

Since Yonko level is above basically everyone else in the story, he's clearly still one of the top 5 strongest fighters of all time. He's just not a hashirama clone.
 
#27
One of the things that strikes me the most about Roger is that we don't know that he has legitimately beaten a top tier.

Xebec was defeated in a 2vs1
Shiki had to withdraw due to a storm
We don't know if he defeated Garp
He didn't defeat Big Mom
He did not defeat Whitebeard

It is curious that Oda did not show Roger defeating the strongest pirates of his time, at least he should have done it with Shiki, Big Mom, Garp and Xebec

In this way it seems that Roger became king of the pirates just because he found an island
Name one top tier who defeated another other than Sakazuki
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#35
PK is just his title.. Idk why people are trying to get his title... Like we all know luffy is already something above.. A God... And he ain't even doing anything which the original and only OK did... That is actively think and be proactive about one piece and mystery/history....plus his aim... Idk why he even knows anything about Roger... Never seen anyone mentioning him about it(atleast can see him wanting to follow shanks) nor he was Alive when Roger was alive like smoker and many others witnessing him and had his hype.... I mean he did not even know who dragon was..
When it comes to accomplishments, Pirate King really doesnt do Luffy justice.
He will achieve more than all the great figures of the past put together.
Original Joyboy, who is without a doubt, the most relevant figure, aside from Imu(if from Void Century) will look cute compared to Luffy.
Roger is already looking like a background reaction character vs Luffy's name.
 
#37
Yes Roger is kinda overhype that y'all put him into non existent pirate king tier. Roger, shanks,big mom, kaido and whitebeard is on the same tier called great pirate tier. It also backed by feats of splitting the sky. If they fight it will be 50/50. Roger is pirate king cause he
find the final island. He is more of explorer and

one piece treasure is implied to turn the world upside down and even surpassed WB destructive power to destroy the world. There is somekind of power on laugh tale that make Roger more threatening than gura no mi of WB. But we know before Roger go to laugh tale. He is known as great pirate like the yonko.
 
#39
One of the things that strikes me the most about Roger is that we don't know that he has legitimately beaten a top tier.

Xebec was defeated in a 2vs1
Shiki had to withdraw due to a storm
We don't know if he defeated Garp
He didn't defeat Big Mom
He did not defeat Whitebeard

It is curious that Oda did not show Roger defeating the strongest pirates of his time, at least he should have done it with Shiki, Big Mom, Garp and Xebec

In this way it seems that Roger became king of the pirates just because he found an island
WSC said Roger is the peak of powerlevel, should be clear enough imo
 
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