Character Discussion Gunko's Rank in HKs?

Blazing Lion

Blazing Lion

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She got some good portrayal this chap that she at least has the AP to beat a chained, unable to defend Loki. She can be YC level character now (tbh I think all YCs and Warlords would be able to beat the crap out of chained opponent). But I think she is not that strong or high in the HK ranking. Considering how she was talking to Loki and the giants she is a CD from birth (not one who could become HK like Loki was offered) and hence she got the position of a HK. The pool to pick HK is pretty small if it only depends on CDs. But this recruitment procedure suggests that they might have done this before.

I saw people shitting on Admirals and HKs (each other) for why were Fuji and GB not recruited to HKs and I think there are quite a few reasons for that. Firstly, the situation then was not as bad hence the HKs didnt feel pushed to that degree and the Navy was the main focus after MF, Sengoku retirement, Aokiji leaving etc. Secondly I think they might have wanted royalty only and neither Fuji or GB are royalty like Loki. Cant go for personalities because GB fits one for CDs/HKs while Fuji does not. I think the main thing though was that it was not the need of the hour. Plus you still had all 5 Gorosei.

Now back to topic. It is clear that Sham is leader of HKs after his father Garling. But Gunko does not seem like the RHM/VC material and is more down the power ladder. Do we know how many HKs in total are? I think she is the Kalifa of the HKs while Sham is the Lucci.
 
TheKnightOfTheSea

TheKnightOfTheSea

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Blazing Lion said:
She got some good portrayal this chap that she at least has the AP to beat a chained, unable to defend Loki. She can be YC level character now (tbh I think all YCs and Warlords would be able to beat the crap out of chained opponent). But I think she is not that strong or high in the HK ranking. Considering how she was talking to Loki and the giants she is a CD from birth (not one who could become HK like Loki was offered) and hence she got the position of a HK. The pool to pick HK is pretty small if it only depends on CDs. But this recruitment procedure suggests that they might have done this before.

I saw people shitting on Admirals and HKs (each other) for why were Fuji and GB not recruited to HKs and I think there are quite a few reasons for that. Firstly, the situation then was not as bad hence the HKs didnt feel pushed to that degree and the Navy was the main focus after MF, Sengoku retirement, Aokiji leaving etc. Secondly I think they might have wanted royalty only and neither Fuji or GB are royalty like Loki. Cant go for personalities because GB fits one for CDs/HKs while Fuji does not. I think the main thing though was that it was not the need of the hour. Plus you still had all 5 Gorosei.

Now back to topic. It is clear that Sham is leader of HKs after his father Garling. But Gunko does not seem like the RHM/VC material and is more down the power ladder. Do we know how many HKs in total are? I think she is the Kalifa of the HKs while Sham is the Lucci.
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I think Gunko is an average Holy Knight

If they have 14 members, she's around 7-14. I think Kalifa is a decent comparison, I expect there to be strong Holy Knights who command "sub squads" of 2-3 members like Jabra did(or they have their own little groups associated/introduced with them, I don't remember if Jabra was a leader lol).

Shamrock is obviously top 1 or top 2.

I think Gunko might be half Celestial Dragon instead of full blooded one. Something is up with her, I think her family name would have been revealed unless something is unusual.

I also do think that only those with celestial dragon blood get to be holy knights in most cases. Loki is a huge exception not just for strength, but for political importance. So not a knock against the admiral's
 
Ven437

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Gunko means β€œArmy child.” The fact that she accompanied Shamrock to recruiting Loki suggests that she is no slouch in combat at least. Her first feat off the bat was negging two Warrior Giants while standing still. Imagine Kaido bringing a bum like Jack to torture Loki for recruitment lmfao. Not happening

The fact that her arrow powers resemble Imu’s is interesting too. Her Arrow Powers are the kind of wacky powers that Oda likes to play with and go Nika with. Shamrock might be training her or she might have high battle potential, I think she is special. Probably Top 5 in HK ranks

Also Sandman noted this translation difference about Gunko gas :catpole:
https://x.com/sandman_ap/status/1883577459020574818?s=46&t=yrRZ-ANZh6EBs7xwgJNlcg
 
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Kung-Fu Dugong

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Blazing Lion said:
She got some good portrayal this chap that she at least has the AP to beat a chained, unable to defend Loki. (...)
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Even Opera and his quintuplet brothers are able to seriously hurt a handicapped Luffy, this doesn't mean anything. Not everyone is a durability freak like Kaido or Big Mom.

MonsterKaido said:
Given she is a female, probably bottom tier imo.
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This. Oda usually doesn't make strong female characters, so she'll be probably the Kalifa of the Holy Knights (a.k.a. the weakest). She could also be in the middle of the pack, like Ulti, but she is nowhere near Shamrock IMO.
 
Ven437

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Kung-Fu Dugong said:
This. Oda usually doesn't make strong female characters, so she'll be probably the Kalifa of the Holy Knights (a.k.a. the weakest). She could also be in the middle of the pack, like Ulti, but she is nowhere near Shamrock IMO.
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Ulti was the strongest TobiRoppo with the best feats, a group tier below All-Stars. Gunko is literally a HK (same group as Shamrock) who tagged along Shanks twin brother
 
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