Powers & Abilities Haki specialist

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Lik with mihawk emoji tantrum :suresure:
Didn't I show you how many times I slapped you around Lik boy? You want another example other than ZKK, Gaban, ACoC Ls?
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/if-tekkai-was-coa-haki.9126/#post-1563748
Lets agree that you are a walking L machine as a Zolo fan like your new friend LA01 then we can move on.

Haki trails aren't necessary always, Oda confirmed this is a CoC attack similar to Kamusari as well;



''SBS 100: Q: Divine Departure and Tougenshirataki (Paradise Waterfall)? Oda: Be careful not to use too much Conqueror's! ''

Of course now you gonna twerk and pretend Oda didn't say this.

Creating extra arms are also a form of Haki trails, Anime made it easier for people like you who can't understand simple things they put same yellow lights that Luffy has,




Still pretends creating extra arms with yellow light isn't CoC when Kaido said it is, still pretends Zolo using CoC after this vs Alber in same arc is a coincidence.

:HoldThisL::BigW:


Zolo is using faster and stronger attacks with better precision, and better skill. Same named techniques can be perfected and can be improved. Everyone need Haki, Haki isn't included in martial art (Aokiji and Garp training without Haki) or swordsmanship (Zolo was still a swordsman PreTS).

Shanks has same style as Roger which didn't make Roger even ''master swordsman'' let alone WGS;



Since Roger style doesn't even cut, he can't even be master swordsman.

-Zolo's non-cutting attacks are Zolo's weakest attacks. Same with Mihawk.
-Meanwhile Shanks and Roger's strongest non-cutting Kamusari attack are their strongest attacks.

Exact opposite things. Thats why Shanks and Roger are like anti-swordsman, similar to Alber.

Roger or Shanks would beat Mihawk with non-cutting mainly Haki based attacks and can't be WGS even if they beat Mihawk's ass.
Zolo will beat Mihawk with cutting 3 swords style attacks, Zolo can't beat Mihawk with 2 or 1 sword or Zolo can't beat Mihawk with non-cutting attacks.

Non cutting attacks are the mark of a master swordsman lmfao to cut everything and to cut nothing

No he isn't.

Zoros attacks have only changed because HES PHYSICALLY STRONGER AND FASTER (NOT SKILL)

AND HAKI

Named haki attacks through a sword are something zoro Roger and Shanks do lmfao not king good debunk on yourself.

If haki has nothing to do with it why does zoro need haki (and Oden level haki at that) to even use enma a sword properly

Does garp need haki to make a fist?
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Lik with mihawk emoji tantrum :suresure:
Didn't I show you how many times I slapped you around Lik boy? You want another example other than ZKK, Gaban, ACoC Ls?
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/if-tekkai-was-coa-haki.9126/#post-1563748
Lets agree that you are a walking L machine as a Zolo fan like your new friend LA01 then we can move on.
Still bothered by Mihawk emojis? Couldnt be me... :milaugh:
I have been wrong plenty of times, far more than you can imagine.
The difference is that I am not insecure about it like you are, "mature" boy.


Haki trails aren't necessary always, Oda confirmed this is a CoC attack similar to Kamusari as well;



''SBS 100: Q: Divine Departure and Tougenshirataki (Paradise Waterfall)? Oda: Be careful not to use too much Conqueror's! ''

Of course now you gonna twerk and pretend Oda didn't say this.
Haki trails are always there when aCoC is used which means every time they arent present, aCoC is NOT used.
Nope, Oda never said Paradise Waterfall used aCoC in that moment.
Everyone can see that aCoC is missing as well as Oden having no clue what aCoC is when he meets Roger. :milaugh:

Creating extra arms are also a form of Haki trails, Anime made it easier for people like you who can't understand simple things they put same yellow lights that Luffy has,




Still pretends creating extra arms with yellow light isn't CoC when Kaido said it is, still pretends Zolo using CoC after this vs Alber in same arc is a coincidence.

:HoldThisL::BigW:
>Creating extra arms are also a form of Haki trails
New headcanon unlocked. :milaugh:
Still waiting for manga panels of aCoC trails on DeadMan's Game. Will those panels ever be posted?
 

Non cutting attacks are the mark of a master swordsman lmfao to cut everything and to cut nothing

No he isn't.

Zoros attacks have only changed because HES PHYSICALLY STRONGER AND FASTER (NOT SKILL)

AND HAKI

Named haki attacks through a sword are something zoro Roger and Shanks do lmfao not king good debunk on yourself.

If haki has nothing to do with it why does zoro need haki (and Oden level haki at that) to even use enma a sword properly

Does garp need haki to make a fist?
Thats not an attack:



The first swing creates no damage.

When Shanks or Roger attacks with non-cutting Kamusari attacks they create damage.
When Mihawk and Zolo uses non-cutting attack thats their weakest move.

You know very well, Zolo or Mihawk's Haki will never be hyped as Shanks's Haki, so stop lying about this.

Zolo not improving his techniques precision is a terrible ZKK tier headcanon lie from you as well. Of course Zolo improved his technique's precision, thats swordsmanship training.

Haki has nothing to do with it because non-swordsman fighter need Haki as well:

-Swordsmanship, martial art or DF skills: these are fighting styles, different training as Aokiji and Garp don't use Haki while training in martial art. When Zolo's final attack vs Monet he didn't use Haki, thats swordsmanship.

-Haki: different power that every fighter need, different training.

Still bothered by Mihawk emojis? Couldnt be me... :milaugh:
I have been wrong plenty of times, far more than you can imagine.
The difference is that I am not insecure about it like you are, "mature" boy.



Haki trails are always there when aCoC is used which means every time they arent present, aCoC is NOT used.
Nope, Oda never said Paradise Waterfall used aCoC in that moment.
Everyone can see that aCoC is missing as well as Oden having no clue what aCoC is when he meets Roger. :milaugh:


>Creating extra arms are also a form of Haki trails
New headcanon unlocked. :milaugh:
Still waiting for manga panels of aCoC trails on DeadMan's Game. Will those panels ever be posted?
If you weren't insecure about it, then you would understand by now that you are proven wrong but instead you are still insisting that Zolo didn't use CoC when Kaido said he did.

Here another example you are proven wrong again but you are still insisting that Haki trails is needed lmao. I literally show you a thread where I said ACoC might be real and you said you don't believe ACoC is real, and now you are arguing about ACoC against me.

If paradise waterfall didn't have CoC in it then Oda wouldn't say Conqueror Haki, its that simple.

What is creating extra arms via yellow CoC light then?




Lets hear it Lik, you know you are proven wrong many times and you say you aren't insecure about it yet you are once again proven wrong and you insisting its not CoC even though you don't even explain what those extra arms is. :HoldThisL::BigW:
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Thats not an attack:



The first swing creates no damage.

When Shanks or Roger attacks with non-cutting Kamusari attacks they create damage.
When Mihawk and Zolo uses non-cutting attack thats their weakest move.

You know very well, Zolo or Mihawk's Haki will never be hyped as Shanks's Haki, so stop lying about this.

Zolo not improving his techniques precision is a terrible ZKK tier headcanon lie from you as well. Of course Zolo improved his technique's precision, thats swordsmanship training.

Haki has nothing to do with it because non-swordsman fighter need Haki as well:

-Swordsmanship, martial art or DF skills: these are fighting styles, different training as Aokiji and Garp don't use Haki while training in martial art. When Zolo's final attack vs Monet he didn't use Haki, thats swordsmanship.

-Haki: different power that every fighter need, different training.


If you weren't insecure about it, then you would understand by now that you are proven wrong but instead you are still insisting that Zolo didn't use CoC when Kaido said he did.

Here another example you are proven wrong again but you are still insisting that Haki trails is needed lmao. I literally show you a thread where I said ACoC might be real and you said you don't believe ACoC is real, and now you are arguing about ACoC against me.

If paradise waterfall didn't have CoC in it then Oda wouldn't say Conqueror Haki, its that simple.

What is creating extra arms via yellow CoC light then?




Lets hear it Lik, you know you are proven wrong many times and you say you aren't insecure about it yet you are once again proven wrong and you insisting its not CoC even though you don't even explain what those extra arms is. :HoldThisL::BigW:
You're only saying strong and weak attacks now cause you got debunked about zoro also using shock wave attacks too.

Divine departure is shanks and Roger's sword technique something king doesn't have like you said.

Show panels of precision training lmfao go on

Koshiro = haki training
Mihawk = haki training

Both training swordsmanship

Yes because haki isn't a part of being a brawler
It is a part of being a swordsman

Hence garp trains without haki

Mihawk and koshiro only train zoro in haki

Zoro didn't beat Monet tashigi did lmfao

You don't need haki for any other fighting style

Yet zoro needs haki TO EVEN USE A SWORD IN ENMA
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
If you weren't insecure about it, then you would understand by now that you are proven wrong but instead you are still insisting that Zolo didn't use CoC when Kaido said he did.

Here another example you are proven wrong again but you are still insisting that Haki trails is needed lmao. I literally show you a thread where I said ACoC might be real and you said you don't believe ACoC is real, and now you are arguing about ACoC against me.

If paradise waterfall didn't have CoC in it then Oda wouldn't say Conqueror Haki, its that simple.

What is creating extra arms via yellow CoC light then?




Lets hear it Lik, you know you are proven wrong many times and you say you aren't insecure about it yet you are once again proven wrong and you insisting its not CoC even though you don't even explain what those extra arms is. :HoldThisL::BigW:
You managed to prove me wrong with your anime gifs? :milaugh::milaugh:
You are a million years too young to prove me wrong with those.
Once again, I have shown you how aCoC looks like on Zoro. Feel free to replicate the same thing on DeadMan's Game.
How many years will it take until you manage that? 2 lifetimes? 3 lifetimes? Take Oda hostage and get him to draw your headcanons. lol

Every move, including Paradise Waterfall can be used with or without aCoC.
As I said, Oda never said that aCoC was used in that moment which we knew the whole time.
It simply happens that a thickhead with a coping agenda cannot understand the simplest of logic.
We all know what Asura is since EL, only you are failing at it. Manifestation of desire. Do you know what that even is? :milaugh:
 
You're only saying strong and weak attacks now cause you got debunked about zoro also using shock wave attacks too.

Divine departure is shanks and Roger's sword technique something king doesn't have like you said.
''Now''? :suresure: I said that long time ago:
No cutting sword from Zolo makes no damage to a leaf or to a paper.

While what Shanks does is destroying things and hurting without cutting, doing damage.

Learn the difference, debunked easy.
:HoldThisL::BigW:

Show panels of precision training lmfao go on



Zolo dancing around with his swords, he is not training for physical strength or Haki by creating huge slashes in these panels.

Are you gonna pretend Mihawk didn't train Zolo about better precision and sword skill when even non-DF user Rayleigh trained Luffy in DF skill?

Koshiro = haki training
Mihawk = haki training

Both training swordsmanship

Yes because haki isn't a part of being a brawler
It is a part of being a swordsman

Hence garp trains without haki

Mihawk and koshiro only train zoro in haki

Zoro didn't beat Monet tashigi did lmfao

You don't need haki for any other fighting style

Yet zoro needs haki TO EVEN USE A SWORD IN ENMA
Delusional as usual. Haki is same for every fighting style; martial art, swordsmanship or DF abilities.

Swordsmanship isn't special than others so you pretend like Swordsmanship need more Haki but other styles do not lmao.

Enma is a special sword that pulls Haki, its related to Enma's power, other special swords increases Zolo's power without needing Haki;



''There's too much pointless destruction around the cut, I'm not used to this sword yet... The attack power is much higher...''

:HoldThisL::BigW:

You managed to prove me wrong with your anime gifs? :milaugh::milaugh:
You are a million years too young to prove me wrong with those.
Once again, I have shown you how aCoC looks like on Zoro. Feel free to replicate the same thing on DeadMan's Game.
How many years will it take until you manage that? 2 lifetimes? 3 lifetimes? Take Oda hostage and get him to draw your headcanons. lol

Every move, including Paradise Waterfall can be used with or without aCoC.
As I said, Oda never said that aCoC was used in that moment which we knew the whole time.
It simply happens that a thickhead with a coping agenda cannot understand the simplest of logic.
We all know what Asura is since EL, only you are failing at it. Manifestation of desire. Do you know what that even is? :milaugh:


Yellow light with Zolo's Asura in manga as well.

Same light with Luffy's CoC:




Lets see Lik:

- Said he doesn't believe in ACoC, now he tries to lecture about ACoC
- Said Gaban is background character, still tries to lecture about power levels
- Denies Kaido's statement about Zolo used CoC and believes its just a coincidence Zolo used CoC later in the same arc
- Denies Oda's statement about Paradise Waterfall having CoC in it just like Kamusari

Too much Ls for you. :HoldThisL::BigW:
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
''Now''? :suresure: I said that long time ago:

:HoldThisL::BigW:






Zolo dancing around with his swords, he is not training for physical strength or Haki by creating huge slashes in these panels.

Are you gonna pretend Mihawk didn't train Zolo about better precision and sword skill when even non-DF user Rayleigh trained Luffy in DF skill?


Delusional as usual. Haki is same for every fighting style; martial art, swordsmanship or DF abilities.

Swordsmanship isn't special than others so you pretend like Swordsmanship need more Haki but other styles do not lmao.

Enma is a special sword that pulls Haki, its related to Enma's power, other special swords increases Zolo's power without needing Haki;



''There's too much pointless destruction around the cut, I'm not used to this sword yet... The attack power is much higher...''

:HoldThisL::BigW:




Yellow light with Zolo's Asura in manga as well.

Same light with Luffy's CoC:




Lets see Lik:

- Said he doesn't believe in ACoC, now he tries to lecture about ACoC
- Said Gaban is background character, still tries to lecture about power levels
- Denies Kaido's statement about Zolo used CoC and believes its just a coincidence Zolo used CoC later in the same arc
- Denies Oda's statement about Paradise Waterfall having CoC in it just like Kamusari

Too much Ls for you. :HoldThisL::BigW:
Zoro didn't use a shock wave on the leaf lerkan

He has shockwave attacks
He can do shockwave attacks with acoc that don't cut.
Debunking you.


He's practicing sword techniques he's made himself since a child like oni giri


Show panels that mihawk taught him anything but haki

Your opinion means shit

I'm not talking about other swords. I'm talking about enma

The sword needs haki to even be used yet haki is irrelevant according to you

Who needs haki to throw a punch ?
 
Zoro didn't use a shock wave on the leaf lerkan

He has shockwave attacks
He can do shockwave attacks with acoc that don't cut.
Debunking you.


He's practicing sword techniques he's made himself since a child like oni giri


Show panels that mihawk taught him anything but haki

Your opinion means shit

I'm not talking about other swords. I'm talking about enma

The sword needs haki to even be used yet haki is irrelevant according to you

Who needs haki to throw a punch ?
Mihawk said no drinking alcohol for Zolo until Zolo learns Haki, you think Zolo didn't drink alcohol for 2 years? :willight: Their training about Haki was only a small part of their training.

That was just the beginning of their training, later they also trained for sword skill in different training obviously, easy to debunk your nonsense ZKKfanboy.

Zolo's non-cutting attacks are his weakest attacks.
Shanks and Roger's non-cutting Kamusari is their strongest attack.

Why its so difficult for a ZKKfan to comprehend this basic information?

You exactly know Mihawk or Zolo will never be hyped about Haki on Shanks's level Haki hype. Never gonna happen.

Shanks wasn't even called ''master swordsman'', why is that?





Zolo and Mihawk: master swordsman and WGS
Roger or Shanks: great pirate


Difference is clear.

Roger and Shanks's difference is their Haki level which is not included in WGS title.

Zolo and Mihawk's difference is sword skill which is what WGS title is about. :HoldThisL::BigW:
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
''Now''? :suresure: I said that long time ago:

:HoldThisL::BigW:






Zolo dancing around with his swords, he is not training for physical strength or Haki by creating huge slashes in these panels.

Are you gonna pretend Mihawk didn't train Zolo about better precision and sword skill when even non-DF user Rayleigh trained Luffy in DF skill?


Delusional as usual. Haki is same for every fighting style; martial art, swordsmanship or DF abilities.

Swordsmanship isn't special than others so you pretend like Swordsmanship need more Haki but other styles do not lmao.

Enma is a special sword that pulls Haki, its related to Enma's power, other special swords increases Zolo's power without needing Haki;



''There's too much pointless destruction around the cut, I'm not used to this sword yet... The attack power is much higher...''

:HoldThisL::BigW:




Yellow light with Zolo's Asura in manga as well.

Same light with Luffy's CoC:




Lets see Lik:

- Said he doesn't believe in ACoC, now he tries to lecture about ACoC
- Said Gaban is background character, still tries to lecture about power levels
- Denies Kaido's statement about Zolo used CoC and believes its just a coincidence Zolo used CoC later in the same arc
- Denies Oda's statement about Paradise Waterfall having CoC in it just like Kamusari

Too much Ls for you. :HoldThisL::BigW:
So many responses back and forth and you have:

- Failed to disprove Mihawk having the strongest haki in the world
- Failed to disprove Zoro being a hakiman
- Failed to provide evidence of aCoC on Deadman's Game
- Failed to understand that Oda didnt mean Paradaside Waterfall of that specific moment in Wano

Are you winning, son? :milaugh::milaugh:
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Mihawk said no drinking alcohol for Zolo until Zolo learns Haki, you think Zolo didn't drink alcohol for 2 years? :willight: Their training about Haki was only a small part of their training.

That was just the beginning of their training, later they also trained for sword skill in different training obviously, easy to debunk your nonsense ZKKfanboy.

Zolo's non-cutting attacks are his weakest attacks.
Shanks and Roger's non-cutting Kamusari is their strongest attack.

Why its so difficult for a ZKKfan to comprehend this basic information?

You exactly know Mihawk or Zolo will never be hyped about Haki on Shanks's level Haki hype. Never gonna happen.

Shanks wasn't even called ''master swordsman'', why is that?





Zolo and Mihawk: master swordsman and WGS
Roger or Shanks: great pirate


Difference is clear.

Roger and Shanks's difference is their Haki level which is not included in WGS title.

Zolo and Mihawk's difference is sword skill which is what WGS title is about. :HoldThisL::BigW:
0 actually points made here lmfao

SHOW PROOF of mihawk training zoro something other than haki


An acoc shockwave by zoro wouldn't be his weak attack lerkan

Strong or weak is irrelevant divine departure IS A SWORD TECHNIQUE DONE BY A SWORD LIKE ALL OF ZOROS

Shanks was called a sword master in the biop for his own film lmfao
 
0 actually points made here lmfao

SHOW PROOF of mihawk training zoro something other than haki


An acoc shockwave by zoro wouldn't be his weak attack lerkan

Strong or weak is irrelevant divine departure IS A SWORD TECHNIQUE DONE BY A SWORD LIKE ALL OF ZOROS

Shanks was called a sword master in the biop for his own film lmfao

You run from question LA01, you think Zolo didn't drink alcohol for 2 years? :suresure:

''Before you master this technique no alcohol''

Mihawk basically says Zolo needs to learn Haki, then they can train in different trainings other than Haki.

Haki training was the most basic thing first training before they get serious, main training was sword skill.

:HoldThisL::BigW:

Why it doesn't even say ''master swordsman'' for Shanks here?




Because Shanks is not primarily swordsman. His superior power that makes him different is his Haki level.

Meanwhile Mihawk's and Zolo's are sword skill. They will never by hyped for their Haki level at Shanks's level.

Lets hear your excuses.

So many responses back and forth and you have:

- Failed to disprove Mihawk having the strongest haki in the world
- Failed to disprove Zoro being a hakiman
- Failed to provide evidence of aCoC on Deadman's Game
- Failed to understand that Oda didnt mean Paradaside Waterfall of that specific moment in Wano

Are you winning, son? :milaugh::milaugh:
Easy to prove; if Mihawk's Haki > Shanks's Haki, Mihawk would be called WSM not WGS.

Zolo needs 3 swords to win vs Nerfed Killer or Lucci, even 2 swords isn't enough, thats skill difference not Haki.

Kaido and yellow lights proves Zolo used CoC in Asura vs Kaido.

Oda said Oden's paradise waterfall (which has no Haki trails) is CoC attack just like Kamusari.

:HoldThisL::BigW:

Meanwhile you taking Ls about Gaban, ZKK, and ACoC etc etc.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman

You run from question LA01, you think Zolo didn't drink alcohol for 2 years? :suresure:

''Before you master this technique no alcohol''

Mihawk basically says Zolo needs to learn Haki, then they can train in different trainings other than Haki.

Haki training was the most basic thing first training before they get serious, main training was sword skill.

:HoldThisL::BigW:

Why it doesn't even say ''master swordsman'' for Shanks here?




Because Shanks is not primarily swordsman. His superior power that makes him different is his Haki level.

Meanwhile Mihawk's and Zolo's are sword skill. They will never by hyped for their Haki level at Shanks's level.

Lets hear your excuses.



Easy to prove; if Mihawk's Haki > Shanks's Haki, Mihawk would be called WSM not WGS.

Zolo needs 3 swords to win vs Nerfed Killer or Lucci, even 2 swords isn't enough, thats skill difference not Haki.

Kaido and yellow lights proves Zolo used CoC in Asura vs Kaido.

Oda said Oden's paradise waterfall (which has no Haki trails) is CoC attack just like Kamusari.

:HoldThisL::BigW:

Meanwhile you taking Ls about Gaban, ZKK, and ACoC etc etc.
No he didn't say that.
Stop adding stuff lmfao

It doesn't matter what I think
It could take zoro 2 years to master it we don't know

You made a claim
You need to show proof

Why would it need to ?

Zoros rank on the ship is a master swordsman

Shanks is captain zoro is not

Has no bearing on if Shanks is a master swordsman or not (which he is)
 
No he didn't say that.
Stop adding stuff lmfao

It doesn't matter what I think
It could take zoro 2 years to master it we don't know

You made a claim
You need to show proof

Why would it need to ?

Zoros rank on the ship is a master swordsman

Shanks is captain zoro is not

Has no bearing on if Shanks is a master swordsman or not (which he is)
It's like saying that Brook is not a swordsman, because he is a musician, or it is like saying that Isho is not a swordsman, because he is an admiral xD
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Easy to prove; if Mihawk's Haki > Shanks's Haki, Mihawk would be called WSM not WGS.

Zolo needs 3 swords to win vs Nerfed Killer or Lucci, even 2 swords isn't enough, thats skill difference not Haki.

Kaido and yellow lights proves Zolo used CoC in Asura vs Kaido.

Oda said Oden's paradise waterfall (which has no Haki trails) is CoC attack just like Kamusari.

:HoldThisL::BigW:

Meanwhile you taking Ls about Gaban, ZKK, and ACoC etc etc.
So all you have is headcanons? Pathetic. :milaugh:
When you find some actual evidence, let me know.
 
No he didn't say that.
Stop adding stuff lmfao

It doesn't matter what I think
It could take zoro 2 years to master it we don't know

You made a claim
You need to show proof

Why would it need to ?

Zoros rank on the ship is a master swordsman

Shanks is captain zoro is not

Has no bearing on if Shanks is a master swordsman or not (which he is)
You say Zolo's shockwave without cutting wouldn't be his weakest attack, prove it then. You can't.

Mihawk and Zolo will never have Roger or Shanks level CoC Haki, thats a fact. Thats the difference between Mihawk/Zolo (sword skill focused) and Shanks/Roger (Haki level focused). You said apprentice Shanks was fodder so you have idea about Shanks power levels so you shouldn't talk about Shanks power level ever again. :HoldThisL::BigW:

Being pirate captain is not an excuse, WB can have both pirate title and WSM title at the same time:



Oda doesn't show Roger and Shanks as ''master swordsman'' in their title for a reason, he doesn't want to highlight their sword skills, he wants to highlight their Haki level, which is their difference with Mihawk/Zolo whose difference is sword skill.

Lmao so you think Zolo didn't drink alcohol for 2 years? Mihawk did that on purpose so they can get rid of Haki training first so they can focus on main training after which is sword skills.

So all you have is headcanons? Pathetic. :milaugh:
When you find some actual evidence, let me know.
Not headcanon, all facts Lik boy. Concession accepted. :HoldThisL::BigW:
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
You say Zolo's shockwave without cutting wouldn't be his weakest attack, prove it then. You can't.

Mihawk and Zolo will never have Roger or Shanks level CoC Haki, thats a fact. Thats the difference between Mihawk/Zolo (sword skill focused) and Shanks/Roger (Haki level focused). You said apprentice Shanks was fodder so you have idea about Shanks power levels so you shouldn't talk about Shanks power level ever again. :HoldThisL::BigW:

Being pirate captain is not an excuse, WB can have both pirate title and WSM title at the same time:



Oda doesn't show Roger and Shanks as ''master swordsman'' in their title for a reason, he doesn't want to highlight their sword skills, he wants to highlight their Haki level, which is their difference with Mihawk/Zolo whose difference is sword skill.

Lmao so you think Zolo didn't drink alcohol for 2 years? Mihawk did that on purpose so they can get rid of Haki training first so they can focus on main training after which is sword skills.


Not headcanon, all facts Lik boy. Concession accepted. :HoldThisL::BigW:
Why are you talking about me proving things when you can't prove mihawk taught zoro sword skill lmfao


It's a fact a acoc shockwave wouldn't be zoros weakest attack

Zoros coc will surpass all swordsmen.

Sure.

Not a swordsman I guess



Damn not even Oden


Damn all these non swordsmen zoro is stronger than.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Not headcanon, all facts Lik boy. Concession accepted. :HoldThisL::BigW:
If Shanks had stronger haki, Gryphon would be the strongest weapon instead of Yoru - You failed to disprove Mihawk's strongest haki.
Zoro's main style is Santoryu, you didnt prove anything with it. The difference between Asura vs Px4 and Asura vs Kaido is Haki.
Kaido didnt prove anything, I showed you what it looks like when Zoro uses aCoC. You failed to prove the same on DeadMan's Game.
Oda never said Paradise Waterfall is CoC attack, we all can see it isnt being used and Oden having no clue what COC is years later.
As you can see Erkek, you are always failing when debating me. It is always entertaining to see you cope. :milaugh:
 
If Shanks had stronger haki, Gryphon would be the strongest weapon instead of Yoru - You failed to disprove Mihawk's strongest haki.
Zoro's main style is Santoryu, you didnt prove anything with it. The difference between Asura vs Px4 and Asura vs Kaido is Haki.
Kaido didnt prove anything, I showed you what it looks like when Zoro uses aCoC. You failed to prove the same on DeadMan's Game.
Oda never said Paradise Waterfall is CoC attack, we all can see it isnt being used and Oden having no clue what COC is years later.
As you can see Erkek, you are always failing when debating me. It is always entertaining to see you cope. :milaugh:
I see Lik boy wants to cry more after getting debunked.

''Sword God'' Ryuma's Black Blade weapon isn't even one of the 12 supreme blades. So what kind of ZKK fanfic logic tells you that weapon's grade has related to Haki superiority? Swordsmith is a huge factor in which blades can be better, making it black blade might increase its rank but still Ryuma couldn't make it 12 supreme blade. As you can see Lik boy, taking Ls is your fate when you argue against me. :HoldThisL::BigW: Another L after Gaban, ZKK and ACoC.

So argument still debunk you: if Mihawk had better Haki than Shanks, Mihawk would be WSM not WGS. Shanks is stronger due to Haki difference.

Zolo's Haki with 2 swords isn't enough to win vs Nerfed Killer or Lucci, so as you see Zolo is desperate to win fights with 3 swords skill, not with Haki difference.

In ZKKfanboy Lik's mind, CoC user Kaido doesn't know what he is talking about Zolo's CoC but Lik and ZKKfanboys knows better than Kaido... As usual you keep lying always, although you think these lies are smart ones but its not, you and ZKKfanboys simply insult other people intelligence by producing these abundant and ridiculous lies and expect people to believe it.

Oda clearly said paradise waterfall is CoC just like Kamusari, repeating this lie won't make it true Lik boy, you maybe think people with low IQ can believe in these ZKK tier lies but don't insult other people's intelligence.
Why are you talking about me proving things when you can't prove mihawk taught zoro sword skill lmfao


It's a fact a acoc shockwave wouldn't be zoros weakest attack

Zoros coc will surpass all swordsmen.

Sure.

Not a swordsman I guess



Damn not even Oden


Damn all these non swordsmen zoro is stronger than.
Zolo's shockwave is his weakest attack for sure, he tried that vs Alber to protect his sword only, It didn't do any damage to Alber.

Make a thread about Zolo and ask if Zolo didn't drink alcohol for 2 years since Mihawk told him until he masters Haki, Zolo can't drink alcohol.

Mihawk specifically says ''until' you master this, meaning they have different trainings ''after'' Zolo masters Haki, what it would be? Clearly sword skill was the next training which is different than Haki training. :HoldThisL::BigW:


Zolo isn't stronger than them, he is just a sword skill based fighter meanwhile others aren't. Even Oden's Haki level is hyped many times, as we know Oden's Haki was so powerful he mastered Enma when he was a kid, while Wano Zolo was struggling with using Enma. Oden's Haki is different level than Mihawk or Zolo's Haki as well. There were always talks about ''Oden's Haki'', that won't be the same for Mihawk or Zolo, their Haki won't be felt by WSC years after they died thats the difference. :HoldThisL::BigW:

Same difference with Shanks's Haki, its always hyped more than Mihawk. Mihawk and Zolo are hyped for their sword skill, Zolo can't even win vs Nerfed Killer or Lucci without 3 swords.

Shanks / Roger = superior Haki level, WSM level.
Mihawk / Zolo = superior sword skill WGS, not WSM level.
 

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I see Lik boy wants to cry more after getting debunked.

''Sword God'' Ryuma's Black Blade weapon isn't even one of the 12 supreme blades. So what kind of ZKK fanfic logic tells you that weapon's grade has related to Haki superiority? Swordsmith is a huge factor in which blades can be better, making it black blade might increase its rank but still Ryuma couldn't make it 12 supreme blade. As you can see Lik boy, taking Ls is your fate when you argue against me. :HoldThisL::BigW: Another L after Gaban, ZKK and ACoC.

So argument still debunk you: if Mihawk had better Haki than Shanks, Mihawk would be WSM not WGS. Shanks is stronger due to Haki difference.

Zolo's Haki with 2 swords isn't enough to win vs Nerfed Killer or Lucci, so as you see Zolo is desperate to win fights with 3 swords skill, not with Haki difference.

In ZKKfanboy Lik's mind, CoC user Kaido doesn't know what he is talking about Zolo's CoC but Lik and ZKKfanboys knows better than Kaido... As usual you keep lying always, although you think these lies are smart ones but its not, you and ZKKfanboys simply insult other people intelligence by producing these abundant and ridiculous lies and expect people to believe it.

Oda clearly said paradise waterfall is CoC just like Kamusari, repeating this lie won't make it true Lik boy, you maybe think people with low IQ can believe in these ZKK tier lies but don't insult other people's intelligence.
Lil boy Erkek still crying about Ryuma's sword that isn't the strongest sword like Yoru is. Ryuma cant help you. :milaugh:
The kind of logic where manga tells Zoro to use Haki to surpass the strongest blade in history? :milaugh:
I'm not talking about black blades, I'm talking about the strongest weapon in the world. Can you tell the difference? :milaugh:

Wrong, if anyone else was WSM instead of Mihawk, they would have that title. It is being saved up for Zoro when he beats Mihawk. :myman:
Shanks is weaker due to weaker haki, that's why Gryphon isn't the strongest weapon in the world. :milaugh:

If sword skill was enough to beat people Zoro wouldn't need Haki but all he gets is haki for the last 26 years, you know? :milaugh:

Yes, I know better than Kaido because I can see no aCoC was being used. Still cant provide evidence for it? :milaugh:
Oda never said that, it is just your low IQ that deluded itself. Oda said not to use too much aCoC not that Paradise Waterfall is aCoC.
As you can see, on every single argument you took a fig fat L and you still want more. The gift that keeps on giving. :milaugh:
 
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