Powers & Abilities Haki specialist
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Told you, non-DF Rayleigh taught Luffy DF skill, that doesn't mean Rayleigh uses DF now. Mihawk's reason to show Zolo Haki was to protect his sword just like other fighters protect themselves by using Haki, same logic. Not ryou.
Zolo was asking Koshiro how to cut steel, Koshiro gave him idea about Haki. He didn't randomly show him that, Zolo asked for it. Cutting steel isn't special to swordsman, someone who wants to destroy steel with axe or spear also need to learn Haki to cut steel.
Not doing damage to Monet is irrelevant LMAO, what is this argument. Who cares does damage or not, point is Haki user Zolo used name attack without Haki proves that swordsmanship isn't Haki, its a fighting style like martial art where Aokiji and Garp don't use Haki while training. Haki training is different.
Its fun to watch how Lik and ZKKfans cries.
Zolo was asking Koshiro how to cut steel, Koshiro gave him idea about Haki. He didn't randomly show him that, Zolo asked for it. Cutting steel isn't special to swordsman, someone who wants to destroy steel with axe or spear also need to learn Haki to cut steel.
Not doing damage to Monet is irrelevant LMAO, what is this argument. Who cares does damage or not, point is Haki user Zolo used name attack without Haki proves that swordsmanship isn't Haki, its a fighting style like martial art where Aokiji and Garp don't use Haki while training. Haki training is different.
Its fun to watch how Lik and ZKKfans cries.
Zoro ran from Okama too
Nami was taught haki blah blah
Yes and he taught him swordsmanship WHICH WAS RYOU which was haki
You need haki to cut steel
You don't need haki to punch it
Another debunk
Again irrelevant
Zoro can make it a stronger attacks By using haki
Which is how he beats Mihawk Because of haki LIKE HE TOLD PICA
Oda put both Ray training and Mihawk training in same chapter, why their training should be different. Ray even focused on Haki and still show Luffy DF skill as well, Mihawk only talked about armament Haki to protect weapons, he wasn't focused on other types of Haki while Ray focused on CoO Haki as well and showed advanced CoA without touching. Mihawk never showed no touch Haki, just talk about regular armament.
What punching has anything to do with this lmao. We are talking about cutting with blades since Zolo asked Koshiro to learn how to do it Koshiro didn't randomly show that to Zolo, of course axe or spear users also need Haki to cut steel same as sword users.
''NAMED ATTACK'' from a Haki user Swordsman but it doesn't have Haki in it.
Named attack argument from you ZKKfans, named attack = swordsmanship and it doesn't need Haki for it.
WGS doesn't include Haki.
Oden fought weaker opponents, why should he get stronger and close the gap between WB? Of course he didn't close the gap. You need to prove why Oden close the gap with WB. As well as WB > Mihawk should debunk you but of course Lik is so delusional and lying he also ignore WB's WSM title, hypocrisy as usual.
What punching has anything to do with this lmao. We are talking about cutting with blades since Zolo asked Koshiro to learn how to do it Koshiro didn't randomly show that to Zolo, of course axe or spear users also need Haki to cut steel same as sword users.
''NAMED ATTACK'' from a Haki user Swordsman but it doesn't have Haki in it.
Named attack argument from you ZKKfans, named attack = swordsmanship and it doesn't need Haki for it.
WGS doesn't include Haki.
Where did you prove it? With the headcanon before Oden's prime? 
As well as WB > Mihawk should debunk you but of course Lik is so delusional and lying he also ignore WB's WSM title, hypocrisy as usual.
Oden fought weaker opponents, why should he get stronger and close the gap between WB? Of course he didn't close the gap. You need to prove why Oden close the gap with WB. As well as WB > Mihawk should debunk you but of course Lik is so delusional and lying he also ignore WB's WSM title, hypocrisy as usual.
As well as WB > Mihawk should debunk you but of course Lik is so delusional and lying he also ignore WB's WSM title, hypocrisy as usual.
Oda put both Ray training and Mihawk training in same chapter, why their training should be different. Ray even focused on Haki and still show Luffy DF skill as well, Mihawk only talked about armament Haki to protect weapons, he wasn't focused on other types of Haki while Ray focused on CoO Haki as well and showed advanced CoA without touching. Mihawk never showed no touch Haki, just talk about regular armament.
What punching has anything to do with this lmao. We are talking about cutting with blades since Zolo asked Koshiro to learn how to do it Koshiro didn't randomly show that to Zolo, of course axe or spear users also need Haki to cut steel same as sword users.
''NAMED ATTACK'' from a Haki user Swordsman but it doesn't have Haki in it.
Named attack argument from you ZKKfans, named attack = swordsmanship and it doesn't need Haki for it.
WGS doesn't include Haki.
Oden fought weaker opponents, why should he get stronger and close the gap between WB? Of course he didn't close the gap. You need to prove why Oden close the gap with WB. As well as WB > Mihawk should debunk you but of course Lik is so delusional and lying he also ignore WB's WSM title, hypocrisy as usual.
What punching has anything to do with this lmao. We are talking about cutting with blades since Zolo asked Koshiro to learn how to do it Koshiro didn't randomly show that to Zolo, of course axe or spear users also need Haki to cut steel same as sword users.
''NAMED ATTACK'' from a Haki user Swordsman but it doesn't have Haki in it.
Named attack argument from you ZKKfans, named attack = swordsmanship and it doesn't need Haki for it.
WGS doesn't include Haki.
Oden fought weaker opponents, why should he get stronger and close the gap between WB? Of course he didn't close the gap. You need to prove why Oden close the gap with WB.
As well as WB > Mihawk should debunk you but of course Lik is so delusional and lying he also ignore WB's WSM title, hypocrisy as usual.
Other strawhats did training on the same chapters too
Didn't have the same training.
Mihawk did show flowing haki. That's what coating your swords to cut and not cut is. Ryou.
Yes and wb also needs to know how to flow his haki into his bisento.
That's irrelevant
Oni giri can be done without haki
Then done with haki
Then done with acoc.
Named attack = swordsmanship was your point against King not being one (which is irrelevant as he is confirmed by his vivre card to be one)
Oden's admission is before Oden's prime.
WSM title on WB is 18 years after Oden's death.
So you still have not a single proof of WB>PrimeOden despite this much struggle and crying?
WSM title on WB is 18 years after Oden's death.
So you still have not a single proof of WB>PrimeOden despite this much struggle and crying?
Major L for you Lik.
Mihawk didn't show advance CoA to Zolo just told him armament Haki thats it. Ray showed advanced thats how Luffy learned he can improve it later.
Your Koshiro point is debunked because Zolo asked to learn it didn't Koshiro randomly showed it.
Mihawk Haki point is debunked because Mihawk only show him random Haki to protect swords that everyone needs to learn for defending themselves, literally every non-fodder need to learn Haki even Kuja fighters learn it, doesn't prove swordsmanship is different than martial art training which is done without Haki.
Roger not being WGS proves WGS not including Haki.
Zolo using Daishinkan named attack without Haki again proves WGS title doesn't include Haki.
Lik ZKK IQ strikes again. You need to prove the difference between WB and Oden changed Lik, not me.
So you have to prove that claim. And despite countless responses you still didn't prove it.
I don't have to assume why because I know why - because you cannot prove it. Do you know that you cannot prove it?
Oden's prime is irrelevant in front of WB unless you prove he reached WB's level and unless you prove WB didn't grow stronger as well especially we know WSM WB > Mihawk as well and you think Mihawk > Oden.
Major L for you Lik.
Mihawk didn't show advance CoA to Zolo just told him armament Haki thats it. Ray showed advanced thats how Luffy learned he can improve it later.
Your Koshiro point is debunked because Zolo asked to learn it didn't Koshiro randomly showed it.
Mihawk Haki point is debunked because Mihawk only show him random Haki to protect swords that everyone needs to learn for defending themselves.
Roger not being WGS proves WGS not including Haki.
Zolo using Daishinkan named attack without Haki again proves WGS title doesn't include Haki.
Major L for you Lik.
Mihawk didn't show advance CoA to Zolo just told him armament Haki thats it. Ray showed advanced thats how Luffy learned he can improve it later.
Your Koshiro point is debunked because Zolo asked to learn it didn't Koshiro randomly showed it.
Mihawk Haki point is debunked because Mihawk only show him random Haki to protect swords that everyone needs to learn for defending themselves.
Roger not being WGS proves WGS not including Haki.
Zolo using Daishinkan named attack without Haki again proves WGS title doesn't include Haki.
Koshiro taught it zoro all the same because zoro asked how to do something with a sword
That's 2 people showing zoro how to do something with a sword and it being Haki
And then there's Oden teaching HIS PERSONAL SWORDSMANSHIP and he also talks haki.
No proof of who was wss
Could be rox who is > Roger
You said why Roger wasn't WGS because Oden > Roger 
So prove that nonsense Lik of 1000 Ls.
Lets see;
WB was stronger than Oden.
WB is WSM over Mihawk who you think stronger than Oden.
WB becomes WSM after Roger died, Shiki declared its WB's age now since Roger died and WB becomes WSM.
You need to prove based on what Oden close the gap between WB and Roger when they are WSM level, and Oden isn't.
You repeat the same nonsense due to ZKK butthurt. I speak the truth you lie from your ZKK ass. Remember how you lied about apprentice Shanks being fodder lmao.
How swordsman were going to learn Haki when other fighters also learn Haki? Lmao you literally expect swordsman shouldn't learn Haki.
Your Koshiro argument is debunked, you act like Koshiro randomly show Haki to Zolo, he didn't, Zolo begged him to show cut steel then he showed it how.
Mihawk showed him basic armament that every non-fodder learns even Kuja fighters, you expect Mihawk not show Zolo Haki when Sanji learned Haki?
Zolo showed a named attack Daishinkan without Haki proves Haki isn't included in swordsmanship. Its like every other fighter need to learn.
Rocks wasn't around when we see Roger vs Oden.
So prove that nonsense Lik of 1000 Ls.Lets see;
WB was stronger than Oden.
WB is WSM over Mihawk who you think stronger than Oden.
WB becomes WSM after Roger died, Shiki declared its WB's age now since Roger died and WB becomes WSM.
You need to prove based on what Oden close the gap between WB and Roger when they are WSM level, and Oden isn't.
You repeat the same nonsense due to ZKK butthurt. I speak the truth you lie from your ZKK ass. Remember how you lied about apprentice Shanks being fodder lmao.
How swordsman were going to learn Haki when other fighters also learn Haki? Lmao you literally expect swordsman shouldn't learn Haki.
Your Koshiro argument is debunked, you act like Koshiro randomly show Haki to Zolo, he didn't, Zolo begged him to show cut steel then he showed it how.
Mihawk showed him basic armament that every non-fodder learns even Kuja fighters, you expect Mihawk not show Zolo Haki when Sanji learned Haki?
Zolo showed a named attack Daishinkan without Haki proves Haki isn't included in swordsmanship. Its like every other fighter need to learn.
Rocks wasn't around when we see Roger vs Oden.
You said why Roger wasn't WGS because Oden > Roger So prove that nonsense Lik of 1000 Ls.
Lets see;
WB was stronger than Oden.
WB is WSM over Mihawk who you think stronger than Oden.
WB becomes WSM after Roger died, Shiki declared its WB's age now since Roger died and WB becomes WSM.
You need to prove based on what Oden close the gap between WB and Roger when they are WSM level, and Oden isn't.
You repeat the same nonsense due to ZKK butthurt. I speak the truth you lie from your ZKK ass. Remember how you lied about apprentice Shanks being fodder lmao.
How swordsman were going to learn Haki when other fighters also learn Haki? Lmao you literally expect swordsman shouldn't learn Haki.
Your Koshiro argument is debunked, you act like Koshiro randomly show Haki to Zolo, he didn't, Zolo begged him to show cut steel then he showed it how.
Mihawk showed him basic armament that every non-fodder learns even Kuja fighters, you expect Mihawk not show Zolo Haki when Sanji learned Haki?
Zolo showed a named attack Daishinkan without Haki proves Haki isn't included in swordsmanship. Its like every other fighter need to learn.
Rocks wasn't around when we see Roger vs Oden.
So prove that nonsense Lik of 1000 Ls.Lets see;
WB was stronger than Oden.
WB is WSM over Mihawk who you think stronger than Oden.
WB becomes WSM after Roger died, Shiki declared its WB's age now since Roger died and WB becomes WSM.
You need to prove based on what Oden close the gap between WB and Roger when they are WSM level, and Oden isn't.
You repeat the same nonsense due to ZKK butthurt. I speak the truth you lie from your ZKK ass. Remember how you lied about apprentice Shanks being fodder lmao.
How swordsman were going to learn Haki when other fighters also learn Haki? Lmao you literally expect swordsman shouldn't learn Haki.
Your Koshiro argument is debunked, you act like Koshiro randomly show Haki to Zolo, he didn't, Zolo begged him to show cut steel then he showed it how.
Mihawk showed him basic armament that every non-fodder learns even Kuja fighters, you expect Mihawk not show Zolo Haki when Sanji learned Haki?
Zolo showed a named attack Daishinkan without Haki proves Haki isn't included in swordsmanship. Its like every other fighter need to learn.
Rocks wasn't around when we see Roger vs Oden.
Luffy learned haki to be a STRONGER FIGHTER
Sanji learned haki to be a STRONGER FIGHTER
Zoro learned haki to be a STRONGER SWORDSMAN
Oni giri proves this
No haki oni giri
Gets stronger to purgatory oni giri because of haki
Get stronger to koh oni giri because of coc haki
Same with any attack he has the more and stronger haki he puts on it means the stronger he becomes as a swordsman
And like he showed vs pica he will become wss by beating mihawk due to breaking yoru with his stronger haki
You said why Roger wasn't WGS because Oden > Roger So prove that nonsense Lik of 1000 Ls.
So prove that nonsense Lik of 1000 Ls.
Oden is the only among strongest people that fought Kaido who managed to leave a scar.
Oden declared that if he cannot beat Kaido, nobody else can either, reinforcing King's request that Kaido remains the strongest.
During Oden's prime, nobody held a title superior to him, except Kaido whose title has never been shown officially.
How about it? There ya go, some actual facts instead of headcanons like what's coming from you.
Oden fought both Roger and WB and declared that his combat style is the greatest.
Oden is the only among strongest people that fought Kaido who managed to leave a scar.
Oden declared that if he cannot beat Kaido, nobody else can either, reinforcing King's request that Kaido remains the strongest.
During Oden's prime, nobody held a title superior to him, except Kaido whose title has never been shown officially.
How about it? There ya go, some actual facts instead of headcanons like what's coming from you.
Oden is the only among strongest people that fought Kaido who managed to leave a scar.
Oden declared that if he cannot beat Kaido, nobody else can either, reinforcing King's request that Kaido remains the strongest.
During Oden's prime, nobody held a title superior to him, except Kaido whose title has never been shown officially.
How about it? There ya go, some actual facts instead of headcanons like what's coming from you.
Leaving scar don't mean winning, Kaido counter attacked him right after plus Kaido wasn't in his prime as well.
Oden specifically didn't want help from Rayleigh, because he wanted someone from Wano to succeed, so thats for Wano statement only.
Oden literally said WB is stronger than him lmao.
All of your pathetic nonsense debunked.
Oden said WB is stronger and no reason the gap should be closed as WB was declared WSM over your idol Mihawk who you think stronger than Oden.
What is this yapping? Anyone has ZKK translation?
Attacks getting stronger with Haki so your point? LMAO. Every attack gets stronger with Haki.Yes fighters need to learn Haki, as well as swordsman, as well as axe users, pistol users basically everyone who doesn't want to be fodder.
WGS is based on fighting style, based on skill. Not Haki.
If Mihawk's Haki > Shanks's Haki, Mihawk would be WSM not WGS.
Roger wasn't WGS, he was WSM level, and slapped Oden around with Kamusari.
Zolo used named attack without Haki, proves WGS doesn't include Haki.
Stop crying, you know Mihawk or Zolo never having same Haki hype as Shanks or Roger.
Declaring himself strongest doesn't mean anything, Sento declares his defense is strongest lmao. Show an objective source.
Leaving scar don't mean winning, Kaido counter attacked him right after plus Kaido wasn't in his prime as well.
Oden specifically didn't want help from Rayleigh, because he wanted someone from Wano to succeed, so thats for Wano statement only.
Oden literally said WB is stronger than him lmao.
All of your pathetic nonsense debunked.
Oden said WB is stronger and no reason the gap should be closed as WB was declared WSM over your idol Mihawk who you think stronger than Oden.
Leaving scar don't mean winning, Kaido counter attacked him right after plus Kaido wasn't in his prime as well.
Oden specifically didn't want help from Rayleigh, because he wanted someone from Wano to succeed, so thats for Wano statement only.
Oden literally said WB is stronger than him lmao.
All of your pathetic nonsense debunked.
Oden said WB is stronger and no reason the gap should be closed as WB was declared WSM over your idol Mihawk who you think stronger than Oden.
After experiencing Whitebeard and Roger in combat, he declares his combat style as the strongest. This is a manga fact.
Leaving a scar is proof of superior haki than Roger's and Whitebeard's who weren't strong enough to leave a scar.
So alongside superior combat style, he also has superior haki. Kaido's scales always had the same toughness. Dont look for excuses.
No, the statement isn't for Wano alone because he literally says outsiders will beat Kaido, in 20 years.
PrimeOden never said that WB is stronger than him, quite the contrary.
WB himself implied that Oden is stronger considering he didn't dare go after Kaido with 16 divisions while Oden went with 10 men only.
The reason is very simply, Oden had superior combat style, comparable physical strength and lastly, he obtained the same mysterious power sometimes during voyage with Roger before he returned to homeland which author confirms - returning many times stronger than when he left, which is the era where you picked your source instead of the era when he returned and peaked.
While physicals are comparable, combat style and haki are superior, that is why Oden is stronger than every old legend except for Kaido.
Mihawk is all those legends but on steroids, Oda still deems it too early to show his display of true power because he is the strongest and we have known that since East Blue.
Since you definitely failed to prove WB>primeOden, wanna go back to trying to debunk Mihawk's haki as strongest or Zoro as the ultimate hakiman? Or you gave up on those since you are aware you are taking Ls?
Pathetic ZKK delusion as usual, same troll who believed Gaban background character.
Oden talked about Oden style, his style is best not he is strongest overall. Oden is also not objective source, Sento also sees Admiral and Rayleigh, still says his defense is strongest LMAO, easy to debunk the Lik of 1000 Ls.
Teach with no DF scarred Shanks, doesn't mean Teach has better Haki, pathetic argument.
Oden lose to Kaido, and Kaido wasn't prime WSC as well.
WB didn't go after Kaido because of casualties, Oden had no choice he was dancing on the street to prevent casualties then he fought Kaido. Shanks who is weaker than WB, stopped Kaido before. Debunked easy again.
Oden said WB is stronger, and no reason for the gap getting even closer when WB was declared strongest over your idol Mihawk later. So you can keep crying all you want Lik you took the L again.
Oden talked about Oden style, his style is best not he is strongest overall. Oden is also not objective source, Sento also sees Admiral and Rayleigh, still says his defense is strongest LMAO, easy to debunk the Lik of 1000 Ls.
Teach with no DF scarred Shanks, doesn't mean Teach has better Haki, pathetic argument.
Oden lose to Kaido, and Kaido wasn't prime WSC as well.
WB didn't go after Kaido because of casualties, Oden had no choice he was dancing on the street to prevent casualties then he fought Kaido. Shanks who is weaker than WB, stopped Kaido before. Debunked easy again.
Oden said WB is stronger, and no reason for the gap getting even closer when WB was declared strongest over your idol Mihawk later. So you can keep crying all you want Lik you took the L again.