General & Others Hard work (Koby) vs gifted freebies (Zoro)

#61
Sanji fans should love this as if even Coby is getting adcoc it's a solid shot Sanji can as well. No need to hate Zoro for it all the new gen adcoc users got it by ass pull.
 
#62
Zoro… one of the most hardest working characters in the verse … Zoro who in his spare time lifts weights …



I never saw any straw hat having this mentality , they are playing around while mf is working his ass off , funnily enough he says << I'm Weak >> each time even when he got stronger , this kind of mentality Luffy got it only after Ace got killed so big difference.
it's because of Mihawk that Zoro was like i'm very powerful no one can beat me but After fighting him he saw the real world and started dreaming of beating him Lol .
 
#63
These 2 are antithesis to one another, and it's proven with how they achieved adv CoC.

Zoro:
-Ryuma CoC genes
Achieved CoC: through magic sword unlocking CoC for him [time limit CoC]


Koby:
-literal nobody
-no magical weapons
Achieved CoC: through hard work [no time limit CoC]

This can even be seen through their dreams as well:
  • Koby's dream is to be an Admiral, which is a rank purely based on strength. Not possible to get it by cheating.
  • Meanwhile Zoro's dream is to be WSS, which is about avoiding challenges as much as possible and taking shortcuts with magical swords:

Koby is what Zoro fans always want to claim that Zoro is- a nobody that rose to the top only through sheer hard work


meanwhile Zoro is a reincarnation/destined chosen one of previous Ryuma, always having Ryuma genes giving him strength, and getting hands on on as many magical swords as possible in order to make a shortcut to his dream
Not going to lie, Coby can do with Bare Hands what Zoro needs Special Blades to do..
 
#65
Hardest worker an alcoholist who spends most of his time sleeping canonically?
Koby low diffs him, without magic swords or demon powers.
:gokulaugh:
Clearly you've NEVER worked out before sleeping & resting is essential to growth and strength.

"MaGiC SwOrDs" keep showing your illiteracy, Zoro doesn't use gimmicks or tricks to get stronger, look how low you've fallen agenda and pride have made you into a toxic poster, when you joined WG you wouldn't post something like this SMH.
 
#66
Clearly you've NEVER worked out before sleeping & resting is essential to growth and strength.

MaGiC SwOrDs keep showing your illiteracy, Zoro doesn't use gimmicks or tricks to get stronger, look how low you've fallen agenda and pride have made you into a toxic poster, when you joined WG you wouldn't post something like this SMH.
Literally Zoro having Meito's make him stronger.. He wouldn't be able to use Dragon Damnation or Ashura without Enma and Sandai Kitetsu..

If Zoro had Normal Blades, Coby would be above him..
 
#67
Literally Zoro having Meito's make him stronger.. He wouldn't be able to use Dragon Damnation or Ashura without Enma and Sandai Kitetsu..

If Zoro had Normal Blades, Coby would be above him..
I disagree, simple blades can be used its the swordsman that makes the sword not the other way around that's why weaklings believe swords are cursed when in actuality they're just weak.

Where are you pulling this from Asura is literally his will manifested. Dragon Damnation is Hiryu Kaen with 3 Swords instead of 1. All of this can be done with no meitou's.

 
#68
I disagree, simple blades can be used its the swordsman that makes the sword not the other way around that's why weaklings believe swords are cursed when in actuality they're just weak.

Where are you pulling this from Asura is literally his will manifested. Dragon Damnation is Hiryu Kaen with 3 Swords instead of 1. All of this can be done with no meitou's.

Not when you have a Blade exuding someone's Haki without of their own accord..

Ashura is Sandai Kitetsu's power manifested through Zoro's demon Aura..

Dragon Damnation aside, Zoro can't use KoH techniques without Enma or any famed Blades..
 
#69
Not when you have a Blade exuding someone's Haki without of their own accord..

Ashura is Sandai Kitetsu's power manifested through Zoro's demon Aura..

Dragon Damnation aside, Zoro can't use KoH techniques without Enma or any famed Blades..
Yeah peitou's have their own quirks and personalities but they're not automatic buffs exuding haki without permission is a nerf not a buff.

Where is it stated Ashura is Sandai Kitetsu's power?

On the contrary it's stated to be his HIS HIS willpower.

 
#70
Yeah peitou's have their own quirks and personalities but they're not automatic buffs exuding haki without permission is a nerf not a buff.

Where is it stated Ashura is Sandai Kitetsu's power?

On the contrary it's stated to be his HIS HIS willpower.

Kaku only knows what he knows and that's what he sees..

It's like Kaido assuming Ashura is CoC because he never got cut by a '' Demon '' Piercer before.. Which Kaido is a Demon, Oni..
 
#71
Kaku only knows what he knows and that's what he sees..

It's like Kaido assuming Ashura is CoC because he never got cut by a '' Demon '' Piercer before.. Which Kaido is a Demon, Oni..
Well we have to go with character statements until either the character themselves state otherwise or the author makes a correction to the audience, so for right now until proven otherwise from statements of characters in OP Asura is a manifestation of Zoro's will.
 
#73
Well we have to go with character statements until either the character themselves state otherwise or the author makes a correction to the audience, so for right now until proven otherwise from statements of characters in OP Asura is a manifestation of Zoro's will.
You're extrapolating from those statements, Kaku doesn't know what's going on more than the readers.. It was merely his reaction to witnessing what was before him.. It was not an power explanation either like Rayleigh explaning Haki to Luffy in Rushkaina..

You're just prone to being mislead if you take things at Face Value like that..
 
#74
You're extrapolating from those statements, Kaku doesn't know what's going on more than the readers.. It was merely his reaction to witnessing what was before him.. It was not an power explanation either like Rayleigh explaning Haki to Luffy in Rushkaina..

You're just prone to being mislead if you take things at Face Value like that..
We have nothing else to go on, either we take in-verse character statements or wait for the author to give details besides that everything else is Conjecture so for right now to me Zoro's Asura is a manifestation of his will power
 
#75
Achieved CoC?

Lol.

Manga says you are born with it or not. You cant train it, just accept it.
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How did Koby achieve it through hard work lmfao, it was literally just gifted to him even easier than Zoro was gifted it, Zoro at least showed basic CoC first and then got ACoC later, Koby just spontaneously gains ACoC with no explanation at all.

You can't train to get ACoC so this thread is just dumb.

Coby didn't show CoC.
 

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#77
Literally Zoro having Meito's make him stronger.. He wouldn't be able to use Dragon Damnation or Ashura without Enma and Sandai Kitetsu..

If Zoro had Normal Blades, Coby would be above him..
i forgot zoro was able to do things like this before enma:

so we can all asume Mihawk wouldnt be able to use any future named attacks without Yoru.

& both roger & shanks wouldnt be able to use divine departure

yamato & kaido wouldnt be able to use thunder bagua w/out their
 
#78
i forgot zoro was able to do things like this before enma:

so we can all asume Mihawk wouldnt be able to use any future named attacks without Yoru.

& both roger & shanks wouldnt be able to use divine departure

yamato & kaido wouldnt be able to use thunder bagua w/out their
Would pale compare to what Coby did in this chapter..
 
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