Current Events Has Saturn already admitted inferiority to Dr Vegapunk in combat power?
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No. You have the impression I didn't read and fully comprehended what you said. I got the analogy.
Please pay attention. I asked you to distinguish between Einstein (the vegapunk caricature) and Tesla. If Shaka's face is ever revealed then it better be a Tesla caricature and turn out to be the real mastermind that faked his death all along.
Please pay attention. I asked you to distinguish between Einstein (the vegapunk caricature) and Tesla. If Shaka's face is ever revealed then it better be a Tesla caricature and turn out to be the real mastermind that faked his death all along.
your comment literally says nothing
Huh? We certainly still havenāt had anything to say otherwiseā¦so what exactly makes you think that is in any way proven?
Donāt tell me itās just the same empty list that Pringles (or maybe RebelliousSoma) tried to use?
The only one pushing an agenda here would be the one making a baseless statement, which is you.
Just as before, donāt try and pretend that you never made such claims when subsequent chapters come out, Pringles.
:cheers:
Donāt tell me itās just the same empty list that Pringles (or maybe RebelliousSoma) tried to use?
The only one pushing an agenda here would be the one making a baseless statement, which is you.
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But Oda cares about the admirals they told me
Yonko one shots the admiral, makes him apologize to his master the Gorosei, and that stronger figure makes his appearance to take over the mission
Kizaru will at most face Zoro if he ever comes back
Yonko one shots the admiral, makes him apologize to his master the Gorosei, and that stronger figure makes his appearance to take over the mission
Kizaru will at most face Zoro if he ever comes back
:cheers:
Nope. If that were the case, why did you fail to come up with a single thing that Saturn has done to place him over them?
You literally used āhe teleported with a pentagramā as an excuse. Come on now. And for some reason, you were reluctant to place him over the Yonko for those same reasons as well. The same old silly double standardsā¦what a surprise!
Like I said, Saturn could turn out to be stronger and thatās fine. Heās simply not shown anything yet to support that.
If you want to support such an agenda then just be upfront about it. You shouldnāt have to dance around, prevaricate or cry to others for support because you canāt support your own claims. Thatās just cowardly.
You literally used āhe teleported with a pentagramā as an excuse. Come on now. And for some reason, you were reluctant to place him over the Yonko for those same reasons as well. The same old silly double standardsā¦what a surprise!
Like I said, Saturn could turn out to be stronger and thatās fine. Heās simply not shown anything yet to support that.
If you want to support such an agenda then just be upfront about it. You shouldnāt have to dance around, prevaricate or cry to others for support because you canāt support your own claims. Thatās just cowardly.
No, donāt be disingenuous. Thatās just immature.
I obviously only used 1 of the examples you listed, but the rest were just as bad.
Or did you think they had any merit? If so why not stand by them, lmao:
- Tried to kill a defenceless Luffy.
- bloodied the head of fodder.
- regenerated damage from a sword stab.
- has the ability to immobilize characters (I believe you claimed this was Hakiā¦but of course speculation isnāt an argument).
The only reason you wouldnāt continue is the same old excuse that the usual suspects always use: the claim is empty to begin with.
Again, what a shockerā¦using the same tactics disingenuous fans always use.
I obviously only used 1 of the examples you listed, but the rest were just as bad.
Or did you think they had any merit? If so why not stand by them, lmao:
- Tried to kill a defenceless Luffy.
- bloodied the head of fodder.
- regenerated damage from a sword stab.
- has the ability to immobilize characters (I believe you claimed this was Hakiā¦but of course speculation isnāt an argument).
The only reason you wouldnāt continue is the same old excuse that the usual suspects always use: the claim is empty to begin with.
Again, what a shockerā¦using the same tactics disingenuous fans always use.
@Extravlad why you dodging this thread
No, you don't understand what I'm saying and as much as I clarify what I say, you won't understand it because that's not how you perceive things.
The Gorosei are clearly stronger than the Admirals for multiple reasons. There were already safe assumptions about that that could be taken before this chapter:
- The admirals are only the public face of the WG
- The admirals work under the Gorosei (strongest members of the WG, excluding Imu who is hidden)
- The admirals are always mentioned to be the strongest marines (public face of the World Government)
Now, we have the Gorosei being introduced LATER in the story and showing their strength LATER in the story. This is typical from EOS villains. The stronger they are, the longer you gotta wait to show their strength.
Why is it that the admirals' strength was shown in Marineford? I'll let you guess why.
The admirals have always been portrayed as a mere public face, the last opponents before the World Government.
Now, let's get back to the arc where we at. The World Government sent CP9 then CP8 and so on, until CP0, to kill Vegapunk. However, none of these succeeded to do it.
So, the WG decided to send Admiral Kizaru, who was escorting Saturn (who was not supposed to put his feet on Egghead).
What happened? Kizaru was one shotted to paralysis by the yonko who was not supposed to be in Egghead (Egghead incident).
This led to Saturn, the strongest agent of the World Government before Imu, to land on Egghead.
The narrative is clearly showing: CP9 < ... < CP0 < Admiral Kizaru < Saturn.
Saturn is the strongest ressource that the WG disposes to kill Vegapunk at this point.
Now, if we ignore the narrative (that you can't understand for some reason and that is obvious at this point), you have Saturn having an insane portrayal since the moment he landed his feet on Egghead:
- Saturn lands on Egghead with a fucking pentagram, this is an insane portrayal
- Saturn seems to have conqueror's coating (we see black lightning) and uses a devil fruit attack that affects even Sanji and Bonney (who are top tiers)
- Saturn's devil fruit is a fucking mythical zoan whose portrayal was already insane
- Saturn seems to be immortal
All of the recent portrayal, feats and narrative clearly confirm that Saturn > Kizaru.
Ignoring the overall situation and only overanalyzing the arguments I'm using is your choice.
The Gorosei are clearly stronger than the Admirals for multiple reasons. There were already safe assumptions about that that could be taken before this chapter:
- The admirals are only the public face of the WG
- The admirals work under the Gorosei (strongest members of the WG, excluding Imu who is hidden)
- The admirals are always mentioned to be the strongest marines (public face of the World Government)
Now, we have the Gorosei being introduced LATER in the story and showing their strength LATER in the story. This is typical from EOS villains. The stronger they are, the longer you gotta wait to show their strength.
Why is it that the admirals' strength was shown in Marineford? I'll let you guess why.
The admirals have always been portrayed as a mere public face, the last opponents before the World Government.
Now, let's get back to the arc where we at. The World Government sent CP9 then CP8 and so on, until CP0, to kill Vegapunk. However, none of these succeeded to do it.
So, the WG decided to send Admiral Kizaru, who was escorting Saturn (who was not supposed to put his feet on Egghead).
What happened? Kizaru was one shotted to paralysis by the yonko who was not supposed to be in Egghead (Egghead incident).
This led to Saturn, the strongest agent of the World Government before Imu, to land on Egghead.
The narrative is clearly showing: CP9 < ... < CP0 < Admiral Kizaru < Saturn.
Saturn is the strongest ressource that the WG disposes to kill Vegapunk at this point.
Now, if we ignore the narrative (that you can't understand for some reason and that is obvious at this point), you have Saturn having an insane portrayal since the moment he landed his feet on Egghead:
- Saturn lands on Egghead with a fucking pentagram, this is an insane portrayal
- Saturn seems to have conqueror's coating (we see black lightning) and uses a devil fruit attack that affects even Sanji and Bonney (who are top tiers)
- Saturn's devil fruit is a fucking mythical zoan whose portrayal was already insane
- Saturn seems to be immortal
All of the recent portrayal, feats and narrative clearly confirm that Saturn > Kizaru.
Ignoring the overall situation and only overanalyzing the arguments I'm using is your choice.