Questions & Mysteries Heaven Splitting CoC for Underlings?

[Erkan12]

Their CoC Haki range is so large that it reaches the sky.

Will we see Heaven Splitting CoC for underlings?

Yamato confirmed 2 things when she is surprised the heavens splitted and she said she read Oden's journal and WB vs Roger splitted heavens:

Yamato's Ad.CoC wasn't strong enough to split heavens vs Kaido's Ad.CoC.

Oden never splitted heavens vs. Rayleigh or vs. other Ad.CoC users in his past battles, otherwise it would be mentioned in Oden journal, not only about WB vs Roger.

-Yamato's Ad.CoC vs. Kaido clash never splitted heavens.

-Young Kaido possibly got a lot stronger later considering Kaido > Rayleigh, as Oden almost defeated Young Kaido, but Oden couldn't defeat Rayleigh and other Roger pirates, while WB was dealing with Roger.

-Rayleigh didn't split heavens when he clashed vs. Kizaru, we don't know if Rayleigh fought someone stronger than Kizaru, if Rayleigh could split the heavens or not.

-Sengoku didn't split heavens vs. BB on Marineford when they clashed.

-WB never splitted heavens vs. Admirals, so Admirals were weaker. Or in Marineford WB couldn't use CoC so he couldn't do it even if Admirals were stronger.

Confirmed Heaven Splitting Ad.CoC users:

- WB vs Roger
- WB vs Shanks
- Kaido vs Luffy
- Kaido vs Big Mom

Marines also counts as Underlings because they are either underlings of Imu, Gorosei, Celestial Dragons, or Kong so they are in the poll as well.

 

[nik87]

Do you want underlings to body your agenda more than they do usually?

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Zoro will, if Navy have adv CoC, they probably also can it, same for Rayleigh,Garp,Sengoku and Admirals.
Not be sure about Sabo and Katakuri, they probably has CoC but it depends how much Oda want to make them stronger, but yeah I can see them also be able to perform these feats in the future. So much everyone in this list as a potential, for these im very sure they will show it:
Garp,Sengoku,Rayleigh,Akainu and Zoro.

 

[Seatonnes]

Zoro vs Sanji will split the sky

 

[HeroesNZ]

Nothing suggests Oden ever fought Rayleigh.

We don't even know if Kizaru has CoC.

We don't know if Blackbeard has CoC and if he does, he certainly didn't have ACoC pre-TS.

MF WB couldn't use CoC, hence why he couldn't KO all the fodder immediately.

There's no secret rule regarding underlings with CoC lol. You're either a top-tier with sky-splitting ACoC or you're not. First underlings to do it will probably be Zoro vs Mihawk.

 

[Boiroy]

Zoro vs Sanji will split the sky

Sanji doesn't have coc 🤣🤣🤤

 

[Rob Luffy]

Zoro vs Sanji will split the sky

Sanji will never have CoC.

 

[Tyki_Mikk]

Zoro vs Sanji will split the sky

This list also forget someone very important for the one piece verse, the last supernova, Oda saved him for the last arcs since he was to op to show him early in the yonkou saga arc, Urouge adv CoC will split the entire world heaven in two, Imu will feel it and say"so the true Joyboy is back...".

 

[Seatonnes]

Sanji doesn't have coc 🤣🤣🤤

Sanji will never have CoC.

adding you to the list of doubters to tag when it happens

 

[Rob Luffy]

adding you to the list of doubters to tag when it happens

Too bad it never will.

 

[Boiroy]

adding you to the list of doubters to tag when it happens

Zkk will very much happen if Sanji gets coc 🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

[Seatonnes]

This list also forget someone very important for the one piece verse, the last supernova, Oda saved him for the last arcs since he was to op to show him early in the yonkou saga arc, Urouge adv CoC will split the entire world heaven in two, Imu will feel it and say"so the true Joyboy is back...".

they arent underlings, smh playa

still best future admin

 

[zenox]

got the same vibe as " zoro will never get coc , he is a mere underling "
and not only he got revealed as a coc user , he also unlocked acoc in the same arc .

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Kaido had Oden in his top 5 and you're here making threads about fights that never happened and clouds.
Meanwhile even Coby realized that BB is a coward, things aren't looking good. :risitavirus:

 

[Erkan12]

Nothing suggests Oden ever fought Rayleigh.
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You think Rayleigh clashed with the likes of Vista, Rakuyo or young Marco, young Jozu for 3 days?

The most reasonable assumption is second strongest vs second strongest, which means Rayleigh vs. Oden unless they somehow say that it never happened, and they never said that.

Oden was going to fight Rayleigh + Gaban at the same time if Roger didn't interfere. Then Roger match up with WB, Oden could continue with Rayleigh.

We don't know if Blackbeard has CoC and if he does, he certainly didn't have ACoC pre-TS.
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Where is this certainty coming from?

got the same vibe as " zoro will never get coc , he is a mere underling "
and not only he got revealed as a coc user , he also unlocked acoc in the same arc .

I said Zolo needs CoC to reach Oden, that's why Oda gave him CoC in the exact same arc where he needed to use Enma.

But at the same time, Oden never splitted heavens. That could be the limit so far, if Oden or Rayleigh shows heaven splitting, then Zolo can get one.

While Zolo fans were saying CoC is useless and Ad.CoC doesn't exist. And Zolo doesn't need CoC. That's what Zolo fans were saying, you need a correction.
Check out one of my usual W threads:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/advanced-coc-discussion.11907/

Obviously it’s real. The only people who deny it are mihawk fanboys.

 

[L55]

You think Rayleigh clashed with the likes of Vista, Rakuyo or young Marco, young Jozu for 3 days?

The most reasonable assumption is second strongest vs second strongest, which means Rayleigh vs. Oden unless they somehow say that it never happened, and they never said that.

Oden was going to fight Rayleigh + Gaban at the same time if Roger didn't interfere. Then Roger match up with WB, Oden could continue with Rayleigh.


Where is this certainty coming from?


I said Zolo needs CoC to reach Oden, that's why Oda gave him CoC in the exact same arc where he needed to use Enma.

But at the same time, Oden never splitted heavens. That could be the limit so far, if Oden or Rayleigh shows heaven splitting, then Zolo can get one.

While Zolo fans were saying CoC is useless and Ad.CoC doesn't exist. And Zolo doesn't need CoC. That's what Zolo fans were saying, you need a correction.
Check out one of my usual W threads:
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/advanced-coc-discussion.11907/

Doesnt matter oden wasnt in his prime
Both users need to have a level of conq to split the sky
If one has that level and the other doesnt there is no sky splitting

 

[Erkan12]

Doesnt matter oden wasnt in his prime
Both users need to have a level of conq to split the sky
If one has that level and the other doesnt there is no sky splitting

Oden was using Ad.CoC before even joining WB Pirates, its an asspull baseless assumption he wasn't prime during his WB Pirate days.

 

[nik87]

Oden was using Ad.CoC before even joining WB Pirates

He wasnt.
Dont spread misinformation.
He clearly has no clue what CoC is when he was hit with it.

 

[L55]

Oden was using Ad.CoC before even joining WB Pirates, its an asspull baseless assumption he wasn't prime during his WB Pirate days.

He wasnt
Oden even wondered what the hell roger attack was
Also when wb and roger clashed he had no idea the fk was happening

 

[Erkan12]

He wasnt
Oden even wondered what the hell roger attack was
Also when wb and roger clashed he bad no idea the fk was happening

Ad.CoC user Yamato who read Odens journal and knew Heaven Splitting Ad.CoC, had no idea how to break Exploding Cuffs and was surprised when Luffy did it.

Oden never used a technique like Kamusari or Heaven Splitting, of course he is going to surprise.

Oden used Paradise Waterfall Ad.CoC on Wano before joining WB Pirates, its still based on touching his opponent.
Oden used Paradise Totsuka Ad.CoC vs. Kaido after WB Pirates, its still based on touching his opponent.

Oden never learned those no touching techniques Kamusari, it has nothing to do with him being prime or not.

He wasnt.
Dont spread misinformation.
He clearly has no clue what CoC is when he was hit with it.

I just debunked your ZKK ass in other thread and you admitted you had no idea Paradise Waterfall and Paradise Totsuka are different techniques. Stfu.

''SBS VOLUME 100
Q: I pretend to do Divine Departure and Tougenshirataki (Paradise Waterfall) at kindergarten. Can I be strong?
Oda: Be careful not to use too much Conqueror's Haki!''