Chapter Discussion Holy knights are collectively a yonko crew-level battalion

#41
"If the Marines/WG are that powerful, they would've wiped out the yonko a long time ago. Yonko are mich stronger."
This was only an argument you never read a shounen in your life
Same with the no powercreep argument
To till this day i dont get how people gaslit them into those arguments in a manga by a mangaka that sucks off toriyama than anyone else

Generational delusion
 
#42
Gunko said it best. That nobody, not pirates nor marines nor even some celestial dragons were supposed to know that the world would end. Balance of the world was complete bullshit

It's been celestial dragons vs the entire bottom world the entire time. When you think about it celestial dragons are STACKED (5-6 top tiers, several commanders, some fodder pieces, not even including Imu). Marines were just a front for them too

It's 7 top tiers if you exclude Imu.
Saturn, Ju Peter, Mars, Nusjuro, Warcury
Garling
Shamrock
 

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#44
This was only an argument you never read a shounen in your life
Same with the no powercreep argument
To till this day i dont get how people gaslit them into those arguments in a manga by a mangaka that sucks off toriyama than anyone else

Generational delusion
Off topic but the grammar errors in my post is giving me a headache.. I gotta slow down and check when I type....
 
#45
It's 7 top tiers if you exclude Imu.
Saturn, Ju Peter, Mars, Nusjuro, Warcury
Garling
Shamrock
The top tiers we know about imo
Imu
Garling
Shamrock
Wacury
Venusjuro
Jupeter
Mars

Saturn is dead and his showing was by far the weakest, making him a questionable top tier.

On the 3 holy knights we know about
Base Gunko is very underated imo. High battle iq and a Pretty broken fruit (Probaly slightly weaker, than the weakest admirals)

Killingham has a top tier passive Devil fruit but his fighting abilities may be the weakest of the holy knights we've seen so far. And if his fruit works anything like sugar, then if he gets knocked out the fruit deactivates. I am still assuming low yc1 to high yc2.

Sommers is probably the weakest of the bunch overall but probably a high yc2 to low yc1. His fruit is like a weaker version of ryogoku.

Overall
1 pirate king tier fighter
2 Yonko tier faction commander fighters
(Garling and Shamrock)
4 low Yonko/ high admiral tier fighters
8-12 holy knights that most likely range from low admiral to yc3/4

That curb stomps every yonko crew we've seen. The weakest of the world government is still stronger than the majority of yonko crews.

Look at kaido. He himself was a top tier but the gap between him and the rest of his crew was so high that his crewmates got picked off one by one. he had no support and had to fight gauntlet. Compare that to the world government, base Gunko (who is at best the 8th strongest world government fighter) beat the 4th strongest strawhat. Even if Luffy can hold off imu the pure numbers of the world government would overwhelm yonko crews atm.

Simple powercreep

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#51
If it turns out that Garling scarred Primebeard and Shamrock was sent to stop Kaido due to marines using all their resources in the summit war.

Then, it’s all over for OG Yonko.
Garling scarred Primebeard — true. Oda been hinting at this and reinforced by his “Garling is strong for a reason” comment

Shamrock sent to stop Kaido — nope. Kaido had Shanks in his ceiling list. Smth happened between them
 
#52
If it turns out that Garling scarred Primebeard and Shamrock was sent to stop Kaido due to marines using all their resources in the summit war.

Then, it’s all over for OG Yonko.
I mean Yonko is artficially created indirectly by the WG
they serve their purpose in preventing pirates and others
 
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